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« Reply #240 on: March 23, 2017, 06:29:09 AM »
I've said it before: the post-Vatican II Mass is theologically and aesthetically offensive. Giving up the glorious tradition of the Tridentine Mass for the heartbreaking sentimental kitsch that took its place was a disastrous decision.

You've got it right and wrong: Giving it up for what you suggest was the alternative (and in fact may well have been, in many places, was disastrous or unfortunate.
The idea that giving it up in order to then actually communicate well with the target audience was a fine and honorable one.
Just a pity they didn't have the staff, training, experience, willingness in place, to do anything with it.
And then there's the question to what extent people want context and understanding and wouldn't actually prefer RITE.
(I might mention that I've also been brought up in catholic schools -- though I was never involved in the Mass myself, except for singing Mass or the Gregorian chants every Sunday with the choir.)

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« Reply #241 on: March 23, 2017, 06:39:52 AM »
The idea that giving it up in order to then actually communicate well with the target audience was a fine and honorable one.

Mass attendance has halved in the last four decades since Vatican II. (1) How can this be [...], when all changes in the Church were made in the name of making the Mass more appealing to the people – changing it from Latin to English, turning the altars around, involving the laity with dialogue and activities, permitting popular songs and guitars?


EDIT: I am Eastern Orthodox not Roman Catholic, but having attended the RC conciliar mass and the RC baptismal service I see where Catholic Tradiionalists are coming from.
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« Reply #242 on: March 23, 2017, 07:20:26 AM »
Mass attendance has halved in the last four decades since Vatican II. (1) How can this be [...], when all changes in the Church were made in the name of making the Mass more appealing to the people – changing it from Latin to English, turning the altars around, involving the laity with dialogue and activities, permitting popular songs and guitars?


EDIT: I am Eastern Orthodox not Roman Catholic, but having attended the RC conciliar mass and the RC baptismal service I see where Catholic Tradiionalists are coming from.

1.) Correlation, not causation.  Abetted by incompetence. And guitars and/or sandals were not proscribed by VII. That was part of the local choice. And somehow a lot of Lutheran et al. congregations fared well with it... perhaps that's why it was copied.

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« Reply #243 on: March 23, 2017, 07:39:40 AM »
As much as I appreciate the discussion sparked by my post, my article was more about the St. Gregory Society Schola recordings of Palestrina (also Victoria, Lassus and Desprez) - which are all excellent, especially considering they are an "amateur" choir (they've been doing this for 20+ years). 

Hearing the polyphony with all the surrounding chant and propers offers a unique and contextually accurate experience.  The recordings are highly recommended for those not put off by the liturigical setting.

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« Reply #244 on: March 23, 2017, 07:48:39 AM »
As much as I appreciate the discussion sparked by my post, my article was more about the St. Gregory Society Schola recordings of Palestrina (also Victoria, Lassus and Desprez) - which are all excellent, especially considering they are an "amateur" choir (they've been doing this for 20+ years). 

Hearing the polyphony with all the surrounding chant and propers offers a unique and contextually accurate experience.  The recordings are highly recommended for those not put off by the liturigical setting.

 ;)

We just need the smallest of excuses.  8)

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« Reply #245 on: March 23, 2017, 12:41:18 PM »
1.) Correlation, not causation.  Abetted by incompetence. And guitars and/or sandals were not proscribed by VII. That was part of the local choice. And somehow a lot of Lutheran et al. congregations fared well with it... perhaps that's why it was copied.

Whatever the reasons, it is obvious that the Protestantization of Catholicism was quite detrimental to the latter --- as it was only to be expected. Thank God the Eastern Orthodox Churches eschewed any such sort of doctrinal innovations and aggiornamento.

Sorry for the off topic. Carry on as usual, gents.
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« Reply #247 on: March 25, 2017, 01:25:25 PM »


80 (!) different Mozart Piano Sonata Cycles exist, by my count.

So I just ordered one of the Tilney disks (Vol 2), see how that goes. He is not an artist whose work I am just overrun with, so I have virtually no preconceptions.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention. :)

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« Reply #249 on: March 25, 2017, 05:50:17 PM »
THE HIDDEN BAROQUE : BJÖRN SCHMELZER, PETER PAUL RUBENS AND ORAZIO VECCHI



Schmelzer uses narrative concepts for his recordings and interpretations, spinning webs of associations and cross references between periods, styles and genres.  For his latest, he wishes to contrast the prima prattica polyphony (echoing an earlier time) and the Baroque painting style of Rubens, at whose funeral he posits the music was performed:  “The deceased person inside the coffin was no less than the most famous of all Baroque painters, Peter Paul Rubens, and it is highly plausible that the Requiem Mass performed by the choir of the cathedral at this solemn occasion was an eight-part work including a polyphonic Dies irae, which had been printed in Antwerp 28 years beforehand and written by the Italian composer Orazio Vecchi".

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« Reply #250 on: March 25, 2017, 08:45:58 PM »
THE HIDDEN BAROQUE : BJÖRN SCHMELZER, PETER PAUL RUBENS AND ORAZIO VECCHI



Schmelzer uses narrative concepts for his recordings and interpretations, spinning webs of associations and cross references between periods, styles and genres.  For his latest, he wishes to contrast the prima prattica polyphony (echoing an earlier time) and the Baroque painting style of Rubens, at whose funeral he posits the music was performed:  “The deceased person inside the coffin was no less than the most famous of all Baroque painters, Peter Paul Rubens, and it is highly plausible that the Requiem Mass performed by the choir of the cathedral at this solemn occasion was an eight-part work including a polyphonic Dies irae, which had been printed in Antwerp 28 years beforehand and written by the Italian composer Orazio Vecchi".

A wonderful read, sanantonio:)

I can hardly wait to give this recording a spin.  Hopefully soon.  ;)

Thanks.

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« Reply #251 on: March 28, 2017, 06:40:05 AM »

Review: Irish Chamber Orchestra On Tour With A Mendelssohn Revelation

The Irish Chamber Orchestra may not be much of an established brand in the international orchestra-world,
but they are on their best way of getting there. Currently on a on-and-off tour of continental Europe, they
are spreading their excellence in places like Brussels, Freiburg, Vienna and Heidelberg. It helps that they
surround themselves with interesting and good musicians. Among them “Principal Artistic Partner” (a bit
labored, their titles) Gábor Tákacs Nagy, that old-school continental musician with semi-quavers running in
his veins, “Principal [Guest] Conductor and Artistic Partner” composer-clarinetist-conductor Jörg Widmann,
and, on this tour, Igor Levit, one of a hot new generation of musicians; a young-ish, nicely severe pianists...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenslaurson/2017/03/28/review-irish-chamber-orchestra-on-tour-with-a-mendelssohn-revelation/

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« Reply #256 on: April 13, 2017, 02:52:54 PM »
Classical CD Of The Week: Johann Sebastian Clown

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Johann Sebastian Clown: For all those unafraid of garish colors, subwoofer-busting bass, and liberal applications of tremulant and celeste, this is the ticket!

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« Reply #257 on: April 14, 2017, 03:21:21 PM »
I've compared seven mobile DACs (and a few headphones in the process) on Forbes... which make mobile listening to a laptop possible. It's a bit of a read, at 7000 words, but there's a conclusion at the end you can skip to.  ;)

Review: A Mobile DAC/Headphone Amp Comparison



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