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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2008, 05:32:10 AM »
Many thanks to whoever merged my thread with this old one! I should have used the search function to look up Savall, but failed to think of it. Mea culpa.

Meanwhile, I've gone through through the older postings and gotten some great suggestions for my want list.

Anyone else have any Savall favorites they'd like to tout?

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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2008, 02:36:37 PM »
I add another name to my "make me a fan of this conductor" series--in part because I notice an influx of titles by Jordi Savall at Berkshire Record Outlet. I do have a handful of his recordings already: the Beethoven Eroica, a compilation called "Du Baroque au Pre-romantisme," a disc of Jeanne La Pucelle, and "El Cancionero del la Colombina." A very mixed bag, both in eras of music and attractiveness to my ear. What am I missing by this guy that I MUST hear if I'm to become a serious fan?

Many thanks once again.

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One of my favourites, aside from some of those that were already mentioned, is El Cant de la Sibil-la (the one on Alia Vox; he has two other releases, each of the three is a version of the manuscripts from a different region of Spain).

In general, I like Savall a lot, as you can see if you check my collection ;D. I do find his Brandenburgs a bit tough on the ears (I grew up on Pinnock's rendition).
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2008, 12:18:54 PM »
But I have never been tired of listening to the Goebel/MAK .... 

I am beginning to see the thread: You want your music played so fast, that it is over before you get tired.
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2008, 12:52:33 PM »
Something I haven't seen mentioned yet (no one wants to go "out of period" I guess) is the Concert de Nations recording of the Arriaga symphonies. Composed around 1800, these are very nice, high classical symphonies composed by a young Spaniard studying in Paris (so with the French influence) who died at 20 years old, and wrote just enough to make me wish he had lived longer, he may have been a name to reckon with in a few years. As it is, a nice disk by Savall et al, especially if you like this transitional era. :)

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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2008, 09:31:08 PM »

Anyone else have any Savall favorites they'd like to tout?

Dirk
I really love the Lawes double on Alia Vox. The late Beethoven of viol music.

I also like his mystic qualities in performance of Spanish Church Music, the Morales excerpts on his Carlos V album (also Alia Vox) are superb (I can't vouch for it's authenticity, but it is atmospheric as few other recordings of this repertoire), as is his Guerrero Sacrae Contiones on Astree. I'm also found of his DVD Orfeo even if the singers are variable (Mingardo is outstanding as the Messenger though).

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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2008, 02:32:19 PM »
Has anybody here heard both of Savall's recordings of Haydn's Seven Last Words and can comment on which is preferable?

 
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2008, 01:57:49 AM »
Are you sure they're not the same as Savall seems to have bought the rights to some of his earlier recordings and reissues them on his own label? And no - I don't know it/them.

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« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2008, 02:18:40 AM »
Are you sure they're not the same as Savall seems to have bought the rights to some of his earlier recordings and reissues them on his own label? And no - I don't know it/them.

No, these are two different recordings. The Hurwitzer has reviewed them, but I don't trust him too much. At least, it would be nice to have some 2nd opinions.

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=11428

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=1706


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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2008, 03:13:12 AM »
Has anybody here heard both of Savall's recordings of Haydn's Seven Last Words and can comment on which is preferable?

Rubio, not an answer to the question (do not know both recordings), but.. :)

I read that the recordings have spoken Bible texts between movements - seems annoying.
Have you considered the version with chorus (and orchestra)? That version seems to me to work best of all.
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2008, 07:49:17 AM »
Found this through an electronic newsletter yesterday. I think it's interesting, and off-the-beaten-track music, even for an early music specialist.


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Commissioned by the Cité de la Musique in Paris to come up with a series of concerts based on the theme of the three major monotheistic religions (Christianity, Judaism and Islam), Jordi Savall had the ingenious idea of creating a homage to the city of Jerusalem through an evocation of its rich history of more than 3000 years, in its continual search for peace.

 Jordi Savall’s project shows how the people of Jerusalem have always had great difficulty living together, but also how they can and have come together to create great things.

In order to give shape to such a complex musical and historical programme it is divided into seven chapters, each one containing key moments in the city’s history. Three central chapters comprise a selection of the most representative music of the three main periods relevant to the three monotheistic religions.

Everything about the project is epic. In addition to his own ensembles (Hespèrion XXI and La Capella Reial de Catalunya) the cast is notable in that it includes Jewish and Palestinian singers and instrumentalists from Israel, as well as from Iraq, Armenia, Turkey, Morocco and Syria. A clear message here how different religions and cultures can come together.

The beautifully balanced programme fills two 78-minute hybrid SACDs and is supported by the most lavish colour hardback book you can imagine. It is over 400 pages long, translated into eight languages and weighs nearly a kilo. A beautiful and fascinating document which - as with so many of Jordi Savall’s releases - you feel enrich your life as well as providing enjoyment.

Link. (It's the 29 Dec 2008 issue of the newsletter.)
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2008, 08:22:41 AM »
And much more on the Jerusalem disc here:

http://www.overgrownpath.com/2008/11/is-this-record.html

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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2008, 08:54:12 AM »
And much more on the Jerusalem disc here:

http://www.overgrownpath.com/2008/11/is-this-record.html

Parts of the newsletter and the blog post seem to be uncannily similar.
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2008, 05:18:26 PM »
And much more on the Jerusalem disc here:

http://www.overgrownpath.com/2008/11/is-this-record.html

Hehe, that article had such an annoying introduction that I couldn't be bothered to read on. Bloggers shouldn't try to be fancy...
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2008, 05:49:22 PM »
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2008, 05:53:22 PM »
(* takes note *)

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I gave it a shot, but the rest was ultra fluff as well. I'll wait for proper reviews before considering it...
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« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2008, 06:06:00 PM »
I gave it a shot, but the rest was ultra fluff as well.

My heart jumped, then I realized you did mean a non-henningmusick blog  8)

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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2008, 07:09:08 AM »
That Jerusalem album looks really interesting...  I, too, will wait eagerly for some more reviews to come in.  ;D

Due to the high level of excellence usually found in his recordings I listen to Savall's CD's with an extra-critical ear and I must say I've not been left wanting.  My favourite recording of the (Sussmayr-completed) Mozart Requiem...


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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2019, 05:30:42 AM »
WQXR: Tous les Matins du Monde live @ Carnegie Hall

Le Concert des Nations,
Jordi Savall, Director and Viol
Manfredo Kraemer, Violin
Charles Zebley, Flute
Philippe Pierlot, Bass Viol
Daniel Swenberg, Theorbo
Luca Guglielmi, Harpsichord

Lully: Selections from Le bourgeois gentilhomme
—Marche pour la cérémonie des turcs
—Premier air des Espagnols
—Deuxième air des Espagnols
—Gavotte
—Canaries
—Chaconne des scaramouches
Sainte-Colombe: Concert a deux violes ésgales: Le retour
Anon. "Une jeune fillette"
Du Caurroy: Fantasies on "Une jeune fillette"
Marais Pièces de viole, Troisième livre
Marais Sonnerie de Ste-Geneviève du Mont-de-Paris
Couperin: Prelude, "Gracieusement" from Deuxième concert royal
Couperin: Muzette, "Naïvement" from Troisième concert royal
Couperin: Plainte pour les Violes: "Lentement et douloureusement" from Dixième concert royal
Rameau: Tambourin I et II from Pièces de clavecin en concert, Troisième concert
Sainte-Colombe: Concert a deux violes ésgales: Tombeau les regrets
Marais: "Les voix humaines" from Suite No. 3, Deuxième livre
Marais: Couplets de folies
Leclair: Sonata in D Major, Op. 2, No. 8

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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2019, 06:36:04 AM »
WQXR: Tous les Matins du Monde live @ Carnegie Hall

Le Concert des Nations,
Jordi Savall, Director and Viol
Manfredo Kraemer, Violin
Charles Zebley, Flute
Philippe Pierlot, Bass Viol
Daniel Swenberg, Theorbo
Luca Guglielmi, Harpsichord

Lully: Selections from Le bourgeois gentilhomme
—Marche pour la cérémonie des turcs
—Premier air des Espagnols
—Deuxième air des Espagnols
—Gavotte
—Canaries
—Chaconne des scaramouches
Sainte-Colombe: Concert a deux violes ésgales: Le retour
Anon. "Une jeune fillette"
Du Caurroy: Fantasies on "Une jeune fillette"
Marais Pièces de viole, Troisième livre
Marais Sonnerie de Ste-Geneviève du Mont-de-Paris
Couperin: Prelude, "Gracieusement" from Deuxième concert royal
Couperin: Muzette, "Naïvement" from Troisième concert royal
Couperin: Plainte pour les Violes: "Lentement et douloureusement" from Dixième concert royal
Rameau: Tambourin I et II from Pièces de clavecin en concert, Troisième concert
Sainte-Colombe: Concert a deux violes ésgales: Tombeau les regrets
Marais: "Les voix humaines" from Suite No. 3, Deuxième livre
Marais: Couplets de folies
Leclair: Sonata in D Major, Op. 2, No. 8

Interesting that they've cut out so much of the Ste Colombe, who not only is my preferred composer out of all of those remaining, but also is the main subject of the book. There's a lot more Ste Colombe on the sound recording, and there wasn't so much Lully and Couperin, they must have decided that this would work better in New York.
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Re: Jordi Savall
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2019, 07:00:58 AM »
Interesting that they've cut out so much of the Ste Colombe, who not only is my preferred composer out of all of those remaining, but also is the main subject of the book. There's a lot more Ste Colombe on the sound recording, and there wasn't so much Lully and Couperin, they must have decided that this would work better in New York.

I guess so. My favourite from the soundtrack – Le Badinage – was sorely missed.

 

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