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Offline Mandryka

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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #400 on: December 13, 2018, 08:45:50 AM »
I suppose you mean this one:

Musical Offering, BWV 1079 [50:41]
Carlo Chiarappa
Accademia Bizantina
Carlo Chiarappa (Violin); Franco Andrini (Violin); Alessandro Temperi (Viola); Mauro Valli (Cello); Eva Katharina Dumig (Flute); Ottavio Dantone (Harpsichord)
WEA / Denon
Apr 1991
CD / TT: 50:41
Recorded at La chiesa di S. Angiolo Vico L'Abate.


Never-the-less ordered.

Yes I do. I have a friend who really rates it highly, he thinks it’s really innovative and special. Me, I just get annoyed by the nervousness of it, the only expression I can hear is brittle edginess. I just tried again but turned to Rampe’s recording in relief!
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #401 on: December 13, 2018, 10:17:57 AM »
… I just get annoyed by the nervousness of it, the only expression I can hear is brittle edginess. I just tried again but turned to Rampe’s recording in relief!

Never mind, I have ordered Rampe's too,
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #402 on: December 13, 2018, 10:58:24 AM »
Never mind, I have ordered Rampe's too,

Ah, Rampe's is on symphonyshare!
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #403 on: December 13, 2018, 02:21:07 PM »
I thoroughly enjoy Dantone's "Art of the Fugue", too - don't know his "Musical Offering", but then I'm much less enamored with that work in the first place.
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #404 on: December 13, 2018, 03:33:12 PM »
I thoroughly enjoy Dantone's "Art of the Fugue", too - don't know his "Musical Offering", but then I'm much less enamored with that work in the first place.

Most of the reviews I've seen also give it a positive notice.  I do not concern myself with the debate concerning for which instrument the AoF was written and simply respond to the sound of the music.  In this case, I am very impressed with Dantone's result.

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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #405 on: December 13, 2018, 10:04:55 PM »
What is it yous guys like so much about this AoF from Dantone?
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #406 on: March 02, 2019, 09:23:13 AM »


I started off listening to this thing by Craig Sheppard, but gave up after 20 minutes or so. It seems interesting from one point of view only: technique. It’s sometimes hard to convince yourself that the performances haven’t  been doctored in some way, two recordings made at different times overplayed. The effect of extreme virtuosity is exacerbated by the fact that the voices are staggered in a way which verges on incoherence: there’s no sense of the voices responding, they may as well be in different rooms (or on different recordings!) The approach is pretty formulaic too, similar tempos, moods, colours, attack, portato etc. It’s about as interesting as watching a dog walk on its hind legs - cool at first but after two minutes you’ve had enough.

So I abandoned that one and went back to this



which is kind of the polar opposite, because here there’s so much ornamentation you kind of forget that you’re listening to a fugue! Which may be a good thing - I mean the structure matters less to me that the poetry. Still, expressively Asperen doesn’t get mileage out of inner tension either.
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #407 on: March 02, 2019, 09:28:41 AM »
What is it yous guys like so much about this AoF from Dantone?

Dantone’s crew will do Art of Fugue next year in London (Barbican) as part of a short Bach festival.
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #408 on: July 03, 2019, 12:56:52 AM »
How do people here feel about Schaghajegh Nosrati? how about MaGregor?

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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #409 on: July 03, 2019, 01:43:43 AM »
Re Nostrati there was a bit of discussion about it with me and Premont when it was released

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21492.msg1195428.html#msg1195428

 MacGregor’s OK, I mean inoffensive, Don Satz in his usual withering way would say it’s the sort of thing that’s OK for the car when you don’t want something that’ll take your attention away from the road.
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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #410 on: July 03, 2019, 06:30:00 AM »
I have to bite my lip there, regarding La MacGregor's attention-grabbing qualities ...


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Re: The Art of Fugue
« Reply #411 on: July 14, 2019, 06:50:38 AM »
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Going back to this this morning I was struck by three features, viz

1. The expressiveness of the melodies
2. The plasticity of the articulation
3. The reflective introverted slow tempos some of the fugues

I was also struck by the thought that Leonhardt DHM also distinguished itself with its expressiveness, and that this is not so common in interpretation of AoF really, so maybe Rubsam is showing some influence here, possibly more so than in the Philips AoF. Tempo comparison between Rübsam Naxos and Leonhardt (DHM) is interesting and though sometimes they come apart they often are close.

It’s a shame that the Rübsam isn’t better recorded, it’s distant.
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