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Offline Bunny

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Obverse Flute?
« on: May 24, 2007, 05:53:28 AM »
I was reading an article in which the author referred to an obverse flute.  Is it a flute that is not played sideways as a transverse flute, but rather held similarly to a recorder?  I've gone through dictionaries and encyclopedias and can't come up with anything.  The only "obverse flute" I can come up with is an architectural term.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2007, 06:07:33 AM »
perhaps it's held to the left side ;)

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2007, 06:21:28 AM »
perhaps it's held to the left side ;)

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Wouldn't that be a "reverse flute," not an obverse one? ??? I confess I've never heard of this.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2007, 06:46:48 AM »
Well, at least I'm not alone in my ignorance.  Ofcourse, the article was written by an archaeologist not a musicologist, but it was talking about musical instruments rather than the flutes on a column.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2007, 07:06:51 AM »
i'll say the guy doesn't know of what he talks  ;D

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2007, 07:38:16 AM »
i'll say the guy doesn't know of what he talks  ;D

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Perhaps true, but perhaps not.  I'm no musicologist so I won't say a thing about this.  I suspect that it's a reference to recorder style flutes, but I was hoping someone could confirm this.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2007, 08:00:16 AM »
It's very much like the obverse piccolo ........

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2007, 08:27:14 AM »
perhaps it is built inside out, thus featuring the keys inside the instrument.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2007, 08:37:46 AM »
perhaps it is built inside out, thus featuring the keys inside the instrument.

dj

Yes. You press the keys with a specially designed stick held between the tongue and the teeth. Quite an extraordinary sound, really.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2007, 08:51:16 AM »
Aha! diligent Google search has turned up one reference to the "obverse flute":

lyricon      an electronic wind instrument like a large obverse flute.



I will search on, hoping to find another reference that will define it more specifically. 

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2007, 08:54:30 AM »
maybe we should look up inverse flutes while we're at it.
i knew one black-haired beauty in college who was a perverse flute jock.
she was fun on dates.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2007, 09:11:27 AM »
Aha! diligent Google search has turned up one reference to the "obverse flute":

lyricon      an electronic wind instrument like a large obverse flute.



I will search on, hoping to find another reference that will define it more specifically. 

That's a Lyricon I.


I much prefer the Lyricon II


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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2007, 09:42:59 AM »
That's a Lyricon I.


I much prefer the Lyricon II
And I still prefer a flute. ;D Or an oboe, or clarinet...

The mouthpiece on the Lyricon I looks more like a clarinet mouthpiece. ???
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2007, 09:52:05 AM »
And I still prefer a flute. ;D Or an oboe, or clarinet...

You mean a real, non-mechanical flute?

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2007, 09:54:51 AM »
The mouthpiece on the Lyricon I looks more like a clarinet mouthpiece. ???

The Lyricon mouthpiece uses a bass clarinet mouthpiece, with a sensor on the reed that detects minute changes in ambient lip pressure. Wind pressure is measured and detected by a diaphragm, which moves and changes the light output from a light emitting diode, which in turn is sensed by a photocell to give dynamic control.

How could you prefer a natural flute to this?  :o

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2007, 11:51:36 AM »
I was reading an article in which the author referred to an obverse flute.  Is it a flute that is not played sideways as a transverse flute, but rather held similarly to a recorder?  I've gone through dictionaries and encyclopedias and can't come up with anything.  The only "obverse flute" I can come up with is an architectural term.

I have at least one book that refers to the recorder group as obverse flutes. I'll hunt it tonight and post the reference.

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2007, 12:21:51 PM »
I have at least one book that refers to the recorder group as obverse flutes. I'll hunt it tonight and post the reference.

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Thank you so very much!!  At least I know that it's not a "made up" term just for the paper. :D

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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2007, 10:19:31 AM »
Dm, "non-mechanical" is hardly the operative word. ;) But there's something about the natural sound of a non-electronic instrument.  Of course, the human voice is the least "mechanical," most "natural" instrument there is.  (I know you know this; I'm speaking for others who may not be aware of it yet.  And if anyone thinks I'm against all modern music, just read a few other posts of mine, including a recent one on the "intense endings" thread. ;D)
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Re: Obverse Flute?
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2007, 10:59:32 AM »
Dm, "non-mechanical" is hardly the operative word. ;)

I'm a bad, bad person ........  :D

 

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