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« Reply #140 on: September 24, 2011, 05:22:01 AM »
Two recent Vivaldis:





Both of them are top notch options and are currently available at NML.

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« Reply #141 on: September 24, 2011, 05:28:18 AM »
And a new Johannes-Passion (version IV, 1749) by Konrad Junghänel and his gang:



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« Reply #142 on: September 24, 2011, 06:01:10 AM »
Release on 24th oct.



Major eye roll. Yeah, that's all we need another Beethoven set. ::) I wish Chailly would realize that his best repertoire is in Modern music. I respect conductors like Antoni Wit and Yan Pascal Tortelier more than I do Chailly these days.
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« Reply #143 on: September 24, 2011, 06:54:53 AM »
Major eye roll. Yeah, that's all we need another Beethoven set. ::) I wish Chailly would realize that his best repertoire is in Modern music. I respect conductors like Antoni Wit and Yan Pascal Tortelier more than I do Chailly these days.

Chailly's Bach and Mahler recordings are very well received.  I don't think that he has a best repertoire he is a pretty versatile conductor.  It's a shame that you don't respect him, he has conducted some of the finest orchestras in Europe imparting a personal stamp to all of the music he commits to record.

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« Reply #144 on: September 24, 2011, 07:00:57 AM »
Chailly's Bach and Mahler recordings are very well received.  I don't think that he has a best repertoire he is a pretty versatile conductor.  It's a shame that you don't respect him, he has conducted some of the finest orchestras in Europe imparting a personal stamp to all of the music he commits to record.

I do like his Mahler, and Bruckner actually, but he seems to have lost that adventurous spirit he had early on in his career. But it doesn't matter, there are a lot more conductors doing more worthwhile things than Chailly right now.
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« Reply #145 on: September 24, 2011, 07:04:50 AM »
I do like his Mahler, and Bruckner actually, but he seems to have lost that adventurous spirit he had early on in his career. But it doesn't matter, there are a lot more conductors doing more worthwhile things than Chailly right now.

It's a shame that you think that Beethoven is not worthwhile.  Someday I hope that you come to appreciate his music, he is one of the greatest composers that ever lived.

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« Reply #146 on: September 24, 2011, 07:27:43 AM »
It's a shame that you think that Beethoven is not worthwhile.  Someday I hope that you come to appreciate his music, he is one of the greatest composers that ever lived.
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Speaking for myself, I love Beethoven, I just haven't listened to him in many years.  My tastes have changed.   If I would listen, it would probably be his quartets....I would rather  listen to Shostakovich than Beethoven. Now maybe 15 years ago it might have been different.
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« Reply #147 on: September 24, 2011, 07:35:32 AM »
Someday Robert I bet Beethoven will sound fresh to you again and you'll be listening all over.  I go through that kind of thing with various composers.  Like Tchaikovsky, I was burned out on him but not anymore! :)

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« Reply #148 on: September 24, 2011, 08:14:22 AM »
Someday Robert I bet Beethoven will sound fresh to you again and you'll be listening all over.  I go through that kind of thing with various composers.  Like Tchaikovsky, I was burned out on him but not anymore! :)

David your probably correct..   I agree with you.  I can only speak for the present and the way my tastes have evolved.  When I go into my music room looking for a particular cd or album I always notice the Beethoven. Just do not have the desire. I think you know how much I like the quartets by Tokyo S.Q. I think we discussed this years ago.   

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« Reply #149 on: September 24, 2011, 08:43:40 AM »
David your probably correct..   I agree with you.  I can only speak for the present and the way my tastes have evolved.  When I go into my music room looking for a particular cd or album I always notice the Beethoven. Just do not have the desire. I think you know how much I like the quartets by Tokyo S.Q. I think we discussed this years ago.   

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I thought you were a newish poster! :-[  Did you have a different handle before?

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« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2011, 08:52:53 AM »
I thought you were a newish poster! :-[  Did you have a different handle before?

NO....leave of absence.....(3 or 4 yrs)

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« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2011, 09:03:30 AM »
It's a shame that you think that Beethoven is not worthwhile.  Someday I hope that you come to appreciate his music, he is the greatest composer who ever lived.

fixed ;)

I think this is more than anything about MI not liking Beethoven. If toucan posted something saying -

"Major eye roll. Yeah, that's all we need another Shostakovich set. ::) I wish Rattle would realize that we have enough of those already. I respect conductors like Antoni Wit and Yan Pascal Tortelier more than I do Rattle these days."

- then MI would have been on that like me on Nutella.

To be fair, there have been a LOT of really, really good, even great, Beethoven cycles since 2000. The vividness, diversity, originality, and universally high quality of execution of the cycles by, e.g., Barenboim, Abbado, Haitink, P. Jarvi, Dausgaard, and Mackerras is an absolute joy for Beethoven collectors. Lots of duplication? Yes. Lots of reward? Yes. Hard to earn entry into such a comprehensively strong company? Also yes.
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« Reply #152 on: September 24, 2011, 09:08:40 AM »
Someday Robert I bet Beethoven will sound fresh to you again and you'll be listening all over.  I go through that kind of thing with various composers.  Like Tchaikovsky, I was burned out on him but not anymore! :)

I was burned out on Beethoven's symphonies for years, or so I thought. I tried listening to Bernstein's CBS and DG versions, to Bohm, to Abbado, to Walter, to the new Jarvi SACDs, and I didn't want to hear any of it more than once. Then I got inspired to listen to the 1970s HVK set again, and that's what did it for me. These are my imprint versions and, apparently, the only versions I want to listen to. Lately, I can't get enough of them, esp. 7, 5, and 9.

Was I burned out, or are these the only interpretations that make sense to my brain, my memory?
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« Reply #153 on: September 24, 2011, 09:53:00 AM »
I think I want to listen to some Beethoven now!! 8)

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« Reply #154 on: September 24, 2011, 11:28:45 AM »
I think I want to listen to some Beethoven now!! 8)
Yes.  I think this is the time to unpack Ivan Fischer's LvB 4 & 6.  I've feared either disappointment or yet another new enthusiasm, but sooner or later the time would be right for first hearing, and after reading a few comments to the effect that some are tired of Beethoven I'm all charged up to hear him.  I never tire of Beethoven.  True, I might "wear out" one or another of his works temporarily, but there is so much that is so great and rarely if ever fails to deliver that I never stay away for long.

Bach is like that for me, as well.  And Mozart. Sibelius and Mahler. Prokofiev and Stravinsky and maybe Dvořák, too.  Guess I'm just one of the lucky ones.

I still have many of Karajan's LvB symphony recordings, including a CD boxset of the early '60s cycle, but I haven't listened to any of them in years.  Whenever I try, I seldom get very far without wondering why the hell I'm listening to this when I could be hearing any of a dozen or more recordings with far more vitality, and then hardly any more time passes before I put on Harnoncourt or Brüggen or Abbado's latest from Rome or Zinman or van Immerseel or even Karl Böhm!

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You got that right, Brian...or Bronto, as the case may be!

Now for this:



(Sure, it's been out for nearly a year--but that's pretty darned recent to me!  ;D  )
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Re: New Releases
« Reply #155 on: September 24, 2011, 11:49:31 AM »
Yes.  I think this is the time to unpack Ivan Fischer's LvB 4 & 6.  I've feared either disappointment or yet another new enthusiasm, but sooner or later the time would be right for first hearing, and after reading a few comments to the effect that some are tired of Beethoven I'm all charged up to hear him.  I never tire of Beethoven.  True, I might "wear out" one or another of his works temporarily, but there is so much that is so great and rarely if ever fails to deliver that I never stay away for long.

Bach is like that for me, as well.  And Mozart. Sibelius and Mahler. Prokofiev and Stravinsky and maybe Dvořák, too.  Guess I'm just one of the lucky ones.

That "never tiring" is true for me of Beethoven, Mozart, Dvořák, and perhaps Shostakovich, and my Sibelius listening is reliable in its come-and-go tide. I really hope I never tire of Beethoven; this year I've turned to the string quartets and have practically been living inside them; what a joy it's been.

Do report back on Fischer - that CD is on my wish list, though I'm a little perplexed by something he evidently does in the finale of the Sixth...

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« Reply #156 on: September 24, 2011, 12:44:29 PM »
I love the 'Sinfonia Del Mare' - a wonderfully atmospheric and moving work.

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« Reply #157 on: September 24, 2011, 01:16:15 PM »


Yum! Me want! Track listing anywhere?

EDIT: answered my own question: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Anthology-of-the-Concertgebouw-Orchestra-Amsterdam-Vol-6/hnum/1155852

Highlights: Mahler 5 with Tennstedt, Shosty 1 with Solti. Verklärte Nacht with Boulez, Messiaen Trois petites liturguies with Dutoit.
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« Reply #158 on: September 24, 2011, 01:17:02 PM »

This is not really a new release, but a re-release. It's been around forever.

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« Reply #159 on: September 24, 2011, 06:30:08 PM »
fixed ;)

I think this is more than anything about MI not liking Beethoven. If toucan posted something saying -

"Major eye roll. Yeah, that's all we need another Shostakovich set. ::) I wish Rattle would realize that we have enough of those already. I respect conductors like Antoni Wit and Yan Pascal Tortelier more than I do Rattle these days."

- then MI would have been on that like me on Nutella.

To be fair, there have been a LOT of really, really good, even great, Beethoven cycles since 2000. The vividness, diversity, originality, and universally high quality of execution of the cycles by, e.g., Barenboim, Abbado, Haitink, P. Jarvi, Dausgaard, and Mackerras is an absolute joy for Beethoven collectors. Lots of duplication? Yes. Lots of reward? Yes. Hard to earn entry into such a comprehensively strong company? Also yes.

I was never attracted to Beethoven's sound-world. If Toucan was to make that comment, I'd just let it go. Toucan has every right to dislike whomever he/she wants as do I. But I'm not here to bash Beethoven, just merely expressing how I don't like what Chailly has been doing with the Leipzig Gewandhaus and that I can think of other conductors who are doing more interesting, or interesting for me, music.
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