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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2015, 07:48:10 AM »
Is it a happy place?

pocketbook happy, me bored... this is what I've gotten here on this last spurt:

Miereanu Orchestral Works (Salabert)
Harris Sym. 11 (Albany)
Harris Syms. 8&9 (Albany)
Schnittke Viola Cto. (RCA)
Schnittke Sym.3 (BIS)
Harris Sym.5, Violin Cto. (Louisville)
Prokofiev Sym.2, Cello Sym. (Chandos)


I'm just holding off on the Sallinen Box, the Borodin/'Bovine' Box, Fitzwilliam Box,... all the $30 items...



NOT IN THE MOOD FOR AVANT GARDE!!!!- all my favs are leaving me cold- Donatoni, Castiglioni, etc etc... Arditti...




PETRASSI PIANO CONCERTO seems to be at the top of the list at the moment....





BOOORED

BOOOOOOOOOORED

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORED
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2015, 09:52:44 AM »
Well, the Bashmet performance of Schnittke's Viola Concerto is without a doubt the best one I've heard (own four recordings of the work). The Schnittke 3rd on BIS with Eri Klas is also top-shelf. Buy both. 8)
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2015, 02:27:00 AM »
ok, buy this: 

Stop dawdling, man, chop-chop!     :P
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2015, 07:50:19 PM »
ok, buy this: 

Stop dawdling, man, chop-chop!     :P

OY VEY!!

Yea, mm, eee, oh, ah,... I just can't see that one happening. If I'm getting Brahms, I'm done! But I appreciate the curve ball!! Scriabin, maybe? I don't know what kind of pPiano Music I could go for tight now- the only item on The List would be Holliger's Partita. I'm pretty satisfied with my keyboard music.

Could use some more modern harpsichord.....

No organ right now please.



I'D LIKE SOMETHING "COSMIC" BUT NOT TOO NOISY- OH noooes, is it Segerstam I'm looking for????
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2015, 11:16:29 PM »
OY VEY!!

Yea, mm, eee, oh, ah,... I just can't see that one happening. If I'm getting Brahms, I'm done! But I appreciate the curve ball!! Scriabin, maybe? I don't know what kind of pPiano Music I could go for tight now- the only item on The List would be Holliger's Partita. I'm pretty satisfied with my keyboard music.

Could use some more modern harpsichord.....

No organ right now please.



I'D LIKE SOMETHING "COSMIC" BUT NOT TOO NOISY- OH noooes, is it Segerstam I'm looking for????

You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2015, 11:54:21 AM »
You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

my Byzantine phase @1997... not much survived...


Klang, no- (KHS, right?)- I guess that's an option

Nono, yes


Thinking about some Hughes Dufourt... anything new by Roger Reynolds?... nothing interesting by the Arditti, though I could go for the Ferneyhough set... Barrett?...


Yea, I've pretty much said goodbye to pre-1904 music... I'm getting waaay picky... thinking Wyschnagradsky(sp.) might be too doleful for me... microtonal in general...


cosmic = Ives in my mind.... how is that 'Universe Symphony'?

Aye, I just want to buuuy something :o

yea, maybe Holliger, he's my go-to.... what about the Violin Concerto?





wasn't really into Petrassi Piano Concerto......... Nordic Composers have left me cold all of a sudden.....  oh, the drama!!! ::)
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2015, 12:32:06 PM »
Another idea, really I'm thinking I like it so you'll like it, is the Alti Heimir Sveinsson 2nd piano trio. There's a recording by The Hyperion Trio.

Have you heard Presque Rien? If not, it's quiet, and IMO cosmic. I love early Ferrari.

Jonathan Harvey's Bhakti? It's kitsch like Jeff Koons.
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2015, 07:40:26 PM »
Another idea, really I'm thinking I like it so you'll like it, is the Alti Heimir Sveinsson 2nd piano trio. There's a recording by The Hyperion Trio.

Have you heard Presque Rien? If not, it's quiet, and IMO cosmic. I love early Ferrari.

Jonathan Harvey's Bhakti? It's kitsch like Jeff Koons.

Yes, that Ferrari is an outre, yet appropriate, choice, I'll re-listen.

Well, here's what I got so far:

1) Lindberg SONY w/Cello Concerto, Fresco

2) Norgard/Ligeti Chandos Violin Concertos

3) Denisov Erato Symphony

4) Ives Universe Symphony... haven't chosen one yet

5) Dufourt Timpani Le Cypres Blanc viola concerto... spectral


That seems representative of where I'm at at the moment. I would consider these "classic" choices... things that probably should have been here all along...I just don't even know what a "radical" choice would be...
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2016, 04:59:02 PM »
You've answered your own question. You need Holliger's Romancendres, and you can get it on the same CD as the Partita.

How well have you delved into Klang?  Or late Nono? Both cosmic and not noisy things there (Himmelfahrt for example.)

If you're really up for it why not try something completely unexpected like Byzentine chant? Or music for Lyra Viol? Both cosmic, neither noisy.

Well, here I am again.

SO BORED


I just picked up the Nonkin disc with Babbitt and Finnissy, first purchase for most of the year so far. I want something as dense as Babbitt- but Babbitt has a way of making many notes sound not-angsty, whereas others with lots of notes tend to go Bergian.

I still haven't gotten any new Ferneyhough. But I'm not ready for a lot of String Quartet at the moment. Also expensive.


I'll still ponder the Brahms,... maybe at the library???...






Yea, Babbitt ruins a lot of Composers for me. But his Discography is small. And I haven't found his heir...




Roger Reynolds on the radar...




Sallinen sunk for me, I never got the Box...




I want something like messiaen, but not so four-square... Japanese?... Nishimura?....




Yes, I still haven't checked out Late Stockhausen...





WOW, I'M STILL AT THE SAME PLACE NOW FOR A FEW YEARS.... STUCK STUCK STUCK....
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2016, 07:08:03 AM »
Well, here I am again.

SO BORED








Yea, Babbitt ruins a lot of Composers for me. But his Discography is small. And I haven't found his heir...



I want something like messiaen, but not so four-square... Japanese?... Nishimura?....


The Barraqué concerto for clarinet and vibraphone. (I've been really enjoy Theraps recently.)

The Britten nocturnal (the guitar thing.) no, maybe not.

Or what about really getting your mind and should round Gesualdo's responsories? They've defeated me but you may be able to unlock their secret.
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2016, 08:09:47 AM »
The Barraqué concerto for clarinet and vibraphone. (I've been really enjoy Theraps recently.)

The Britten nocturnal (the guitar thing.) no, maybe not.

Or what about really getting your mind and should round Gesualdo's responsories? They've defeated me but you may be able to unlock their secret.

I've had the Barraque for decades, yes, might dust that off...

I've always enjoyed that Bream 20th century recital, yes,...

Gesualdo came with my chant phase back in the late 90s... yea, mm,... think I'd rather try Stockhausen first, lol!!




Yesterday i took Dutilleux Sym2 with me, yes, quite a boisterous and fun affair, very gilded.

Wasn't impressed by samples of Norgard's 8th... 7th I liked better...

Petrassi Piano Concerto... no thanks....






I think I'm probably just happy with what I have... I have a feeling my problems are more gynecological in nature... errrrr....
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2016, 02:47:28 PM »
Something tells me you need more Nystroem in your collection. Am I wrong?
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2016, 09:20:39 AM »
ahhh, here we are again...


1) I seem to be in an American Piano Music mood lately,- 1/2 light and fluffy, 1/2 burly, gnarly....

2) Considering the Lindberg/Ondine Box... Tiensuu... Kokkonen 1-2 (Sakari)... I seem to be stuck on "Nordic Orchestral"...

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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2016, 10:06:55 PM »
ahhh, here we are again...


1) I seem to be in an American Piano Music mood lately,- 1/2 burly, gnarly....

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George Flynn, Trinity. Get the recording by Fredrik Ullen.

And then there's Charles Tomlinson Griffes.
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2016, 11:31:13 PM »
Piano works by Dane Rudhyar - interesting, eccentric, astrology-fixated & Scriabinesque fellow, but not much recorded it seems.

And of course, those of Ruth Crawford Seeger (the Preludes, Piano Studies etc.)

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Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2017, 05:42:32 PM »
1) Aperghis: 'Avis le tempete'

An exhausting "opera" thingy... I listened to a bit on YT and just didn't need the stress...


2) Stravinsky: 'Persephone'

Don't really feel like listening to a tenor, though I like the music,... eh, I just can't get excited here...


3) Stravinsky/ Bartok: Piano Music (Ranki;Apex)

Again, I like his delicate touch, but I have trouble getting excited over the music.


4) Stravinsky: 'The Flood/ Requiem Canticles...' (DG)

I can generate just a touch more excitement for this... I don't know why I just can't get excited over Igor?!?!


5) Malipiero Piano Music

I like his Impressionistic early stuff... but I lose interest in the quirky/uppity stuff.


6) Bartok Piano Muisc: Kocsis Box

I have been trying to make myself believe here, but I just don't think I can handle some of the simpler stuff. And, sampling a few of the 'Romanian' this and 'Hungarian' that, that most of Bartok's output here seems to be in the miniature range. I'd be more interested in 1-2 discs of the "important" stuff. Don't know if I can deal with 'Mikrokosmos' and 'For Children'. I know you guys are going to try to convince me here, but WHY?  After Modern Piano, it has been hard to go back to pre-1951, even if it's scintillating ,... I dunno, give it a try...


7) Henze??

How are the Piano Concertos and Violin Concertos? anything other than the Symphonies?...


8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?




I guess I'm good?
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2017, 12:14:00 AM »
8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?


A strong life-affirming will in early Nono.
No angst.
A true faith in the human power of changing things.

Youl'll definitely make a great gift to yourself if you buy




and also




One should listen to Nono much more often nowadays...


 

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Re: Tell Me What to Buy FEB.2017
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2017, 12:34:51 AM »
1) Aperghis: 'Avis le tempete'

An exhausting "opera" thingy... I listened to a bit on YT and just didn't need the stress...


2) Stravinsky: 'Persephone'

Don't really feel like listening to a tenor, though I like the music,... eh, I just can't get excited here...


3) Stravinsky/ Bartok: Piano Music (Ranki;Apex)

Again, I like his delicate touch, but I have trouble getting excited over the music.


4) Stravinsky: 'The Flood/ Requiem Canticles...' (DG)

I can generate just a touch more excitement for this... I don't know why I just can't get excited over Igor?!?!


5) Malipiero Piano Music

I like his Impressionistic early stuff... but I lose interest in the quirky/uppity stuff.


6) Bartok Piano Muisc: Kocsis Box

I have been trying to make myself believe here, but I just don't think I can handle some of the simpler stuff. And, sampling a few of the 'Romanian' this and 'Hungarian' that, that most of Bartok's output here seems to be in the miniature range. I'd be more interested in 1-2 discs of the "important" stuff. Don't know if I can deal with 'Mikrokosmos' and 'For Children'. I know you guys are going to try to convince me here, but WHY?  After Modern Piano, it has been hard to go back to pre-1951, even if it's scintillating ,... I dunno, give it a try...


7) Henze??

How are the Piano Concertos and Violin Concertos? anything other than the Symphonies?...


8) I'm really scraping it here... I almost feel bad for not wanting anything...

Nono: 'O Sole...'

Massive opera thingy, probably more angst than I want to deal with right now. How bout '...Sospeso'?




I guess I'm good?

Do you know this thing?

 
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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2017, 01:14:35 AM »
Stevenson, Passacaglia on DSCH


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Re: Tell Me What to Buy
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2017, 09:33:19 AM »
Always interesting recommends, fellas! ;)


Ordered the Stravinsky/Knussen (DG)...

Might try some of that Nono...

Do you know this thing?

 

I've sniffed it a few times, I guess I fear the "less than Philips" sound??... yes, forgot about Busoni and Scriabin...
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My main thing with the piano now is SOUND, hence the Kocsis even though I don't seem to be craving Bartok. I AM craving that sort of Philips Piano Sound.

Mustonen is the kind of pianist who has that ridiculously refined touch (Pogo, Kocsis, Ranki?)... was listening to his Stravinsky concertos... I might even get Beethoven for the Mustonen, lol.


If you "get" the type of pianist I'm looking for, I might even get "doo-dah" just to hear the sound and playing.

Stevenson, Passacaglia on DSCH



lol, that thing has always scared me... must check on it...
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