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Henk

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Contemporary jazz
« on: June 05, 2009, 02:16:35 AM »
I repeat my message (originally posted in the "Non-classical music listening thread"):

I see nobody here listening to contemporary (jazz) music where I like to listen to. People here seem to think that only Miles Davis, John Coltrane and some other well-known jazz-musicians count in the jazz world. But nowadays these contemporary groups, musicians are at the same level of artistry then the well-known older names and have taken jazz to other directions: AlasNoAxis, Paul Motian, Wayne Horvitz, Rudresh Mahanthappa, Dave Douglas, David Murray, Ahmad Jamal, Roy Hargrove, vocalists Rebecca Martin, Jennifer Sanon, Rosa Passos and Sachal Vasandani and european impro of Fuhler, Kaufmann, De Joode, Mengelberg, Baars.

Check them out! I would like to post a list with recommended albums for those who feel challenged.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2009, 02:34:58 AM »
Hm, I thought about starting a "Jazz since 1970" thread here, but you beat me to it  :)

On this subject I know a little but would like to know more...I've got some discs by the likes of Dave Holland, Brad Mehldau, Keith Jarrett, Michael Brecker...still, it's hard to beat the established classics. Recently I listed my 8 Desert Island Jazz Albums and there was only one from after 1970 (Holland's Conference of the Birds).
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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2009, 05:05:22 AM »
But nowadays these contemporary groups, musicians are at the same level of artistry then the well-known older names

If you say so. I'll check those names out. If they suck i'm going to hunt you down, how about that.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 05:15:49 AM »
Except for rare exceptions, I can't seem to get past the '60s.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 05:50:51 AM »
I have a lot of ECM releases from the last 20 years or so, including Keith Jarrett, Jan Garbarek, Ralph Towner and Lyle Mays (just off the top of my head).  Garbarek has been a fave for a long time.

And a lot of my contemporary jazz is by Louisiana-based artists (many writing in a more retro style), e.g. Steve Riley & the Mamou Playboys, Dwayne Dopsie & the Zydeco Hellraisers, Rockin' Dopsie Jr. and the New Orleans Jazz Vipers.

Henk, by all means post more of your favorites.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 06:03:15 AM »
I repeat my message (originally posted in the "Non-classical music listening thread"):

I see nobody here listening to contemporary (jazz) music where I like to listen to. People here seem to think that only Miles Davis, John Coltrane and some other well-known jazz-musicians count in the jazz world. But nowadays these contemporary groups, musicians are at the same level of artistry then the well-known older names and have taken jazz to other directions: AlasNoAxis, Paul Motian, Wayne Horvitz, Rudresh Mahanthappa, Dave Douglas, David Murray, Ahmad Jamal, Roy Hargrove, vocalists Rebecca Martin, Jennifer Sanon, Rosa Passos and Sachal Vasandani and european impro of Fuhler, Kaufmann, De Joode, Mengelberg, Baars.

Check them out! I would like to post a list with recommended albums for those who feel challenged.

Some more, although many, including some you listed, are not exactly "new"

Bill Frisell
Keith Jarrett
Joe Lavano
Joe Henderson
Andrew Hill
Bobby Hutcherson
Wayne Shorter
Medeski, Martin & Wood
John Scofield
Dave Holland
Joshua Redman
Bad Plus
Charlie Haden
Ornette Coleman

I also see you like Brazilian singer Rosa Passos

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2009, 06:46:36 AM »
I've recently discovered Kyrgyz jazz pianist Eldar Djangirov, who has earned comparison to Art Tatum and Oscar Peterson, among others, despite his somewhat pretentious demand that people omit his last name and just call him "Eldar".

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2009, 06:54:54 AM »
I've recently discovered Kyrgyz jazz pianist Eldar Djangirov, who has earned comparison to Art Tatum

On what grounds? He sounds terrible here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzRT3yu-3dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VntibiCczhQ&feature=related

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2009, 07:07:24 AM »
I have a lot of ECM releases from the last 20 years or so, including Keith Jarrett, Jan Garbarek, Ralph Towner and Lyle Mays (just off the top of my head).  Garbarek has been a fave for a long time.

And a lot of my contemporary jazz is by Louisiana-based artists (many writing in a more retro style), e.g. Steve Riley & the Mamou Playboys, Dwayne Dopsie & the Zydeco Hellraisers, Rockin' Dopsie Jr. and the New Orleans Jazz Vipers.

Henk, by all means post more of your favorites.

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2008 was a great year for jazz imo. Many great albums were released. I want to do some further listening, but will soon post a list with albums here.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2009, 07:08:02 AM »
Forgot to mention this one, Infernal Machines by Darcy James Argue and his Secret Society, which I just picked up a few weeks ago.  Fascinating mix of big-band jazz, minimalism and other genres.

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Henk

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2009, 07:11:25 AM »
Some more, although many, including some you listed, are not exactly "new"

That's right but guys like Motian and Jamal continue to progress their playing and are still making albums.


I also see you like Brazilian singer Rosa Passos

You may also like
Adriana Calcanhotto 
Marisa Monte
Carlinhos Brown (Tribalistas)
Eliane Elias (jazz pianist)
Edu Lobo
Baden Powell
Egberto Gismonti
Joao Bosco
Chico Buarque
Leila Pinheiro

Fado
Mariza
Misia
Ana Moura
Cristina Blanco

Some new names for me. I will check them out.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2009, 12:32:50 PM »
Ari Brown (see http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1964857830220399179&hl=en ) Can play straight-forward jazz but can also be one the most adventurous players out there.
Orbert Davis (http://www.orbertdavis.com/home.html )
Chicago Jazz Philharmonic (http://www.chicagojazzphilharmonic.org/home.html )
Brad Goode (http://www.bradgoode.com/ ) (several virtual albums freely available on his site)



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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2009, 10:09:57 PM »
I'm not much into jazz (my father is and I spend my childhood listening to old jazz heros so I know what the music is about).

I like Gato Barbieri (Bolivia, Under Fire),  Brad Mehlday, Keith Jarrett and Bobo Stenson Trio which I just borrowed (Cantando).

I know there are tons of brilliant groups out there, many Finnish alone. My love for other music just drains me from my resources, so in next life then...  :P
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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2009, 08:03:10 AM »
Some names I'll have to look into here. 

Don't forget Branford Marsalis and Mulgrew Miller who just keep getting better and better.

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Re: Contemporary jazz
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 08:19:32 AM »
Oh yeah...how could I forget Maria Schneider?

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