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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2010, 08:16:34 PM »
I think No. 9 is also worth listening, but I agree: Much other stuff to explore (I don't know all of the RVW or Shostakovich symphonies).
Tried Pettersson #13 once, but won't retry. Too hard to crack.

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2010, 09:46:23 PM »
Well #7 is what I'll go for next.  I won't try anything outside of #6-8 until I've explored all three since you and a couple of other posters shared the same sentiment.

Well #6-8 are masterpieces in my opinion. I had someone tell me the exact same thing as I told you: listen to 6-8. I did and I was hooked, but as I progressed past the 8th, I found much the music to be disappointing. Those contrasts (i.e. light, dark) aren't evident in his later works, they just seem like a bunch of dissonant note-spinning with no real purpose. I do, however, need to go and listen to No. 10 as I recall it being pretty decent.
 
All of this said, my box of Pettersson symphonies is now one of prized possessions and I'm glad I finally forced myself to listen to his music, because my first impressions of his music was "This is morbidly depressing..." but now I've come to enjoy his pessimistic music for what it is: a unique view of the world that was around him.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2010, 02:19:55 PM »
My work colleague (fellow CD nut) raves about Symphony No 4 - so I must try that soon.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #63 on: October 20, 2010, 03:31:04 PM »
My work colleague (fellow CD nut) raves about Symphony No 4 - so I must try that soon.

I don't recall the 4th being particularly inspired, but I will give it another listen.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #64 on: November 02, 2010, 09:38:54 AM »
I can now fully endorse Pettersson's Violin Concerto No. 2. What a remarkable work.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2010, 05:33:44 AM »
Just finished listening to the Seventh Symphony on YouTube,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMNzqMkW3U

This is from someone who has never listened to any Pettersson before, so here are my thoughts,

Yes it's bleak-ish, certainly tonal, but a degree of discord, it's definitely relentless, quite repetitive, reminds me of the first movement of Shostakovich's Tenth in a way, it's a 45 minute one movement work, therefore it's hard to find your way around, it would have been better to compose it in say four sections, there's a lovely quiet string section about 30 minutes in, it's breathtaking, the very best bit of the Symphony.

The more you listen to this one, the more I think you'll find the structure to be both clear and masterfully implemented. There's subtle organic growth occurring throughout the work instead of a traditional delineation of first and second theme, etc. As you get familiar with the themes and their development, you'll notice them being adumbrated well before they take center stage. Part of what makes the 7th so appealing to me is not just its enormous emotional impact but its craftsmanship: at his best Pettersson is a true symphonist.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2010, 08:20:11 AM »
The more you listen to this one, the more I think you'll find the structure to be both clear and masterfully implemented. There's subtle organic growth occurring throughout the work instead of a traditional delineation of first and second theme, etc.
Oh yes; indeed. That's what makes it a masterpiece and Pettersson a master.

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2010, 08:54:46 AM »
The more you listen to this one, the more I think you'll find the structure to be both clear and masterfully implemented. There's subtle organic growth occurring throughout the work instead of a traditional delineation of first and second theme, etc. As you get familiar with the themes and their development, you'll notice them being adumbrated well before they take center stage. Part of what makes the 7th so appealing to me is not just its enormous emotional impact but its craftsmanship: at his best Pettersson is a true symphonist.

Pettersson was a master of the gritty idiom he chose to compose in. I'm quite in awe of his Symphonies Nos. 6-8 and not to mention his Violin Concerto No. 2, which has that light/dark constrast throughout which makes the afore mentioned symphonies completely compelling.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2011, 12:08:00 AM »
Hi everyone,

For those of you who are interested, please visit my blog which I created for the occassion of Allan Pettersson's upcoming 100th birthday. My goal is to listen to all of his orchestral works (+Barefoot songs and Seven Sonatas) before his birthday and to blog about it. Feel free to leave comments or feedback!


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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2011, 12:14:17 AM »
Hi everyone,

For those of you who are interested, please visit my blog which I created for the occassion of Allan Pettersson's upcoming 100th birthday. My goal is to listen to all of his orchestral works (+Barefoot songs and Seven Sonatas) before his birthday and to blog about it. Feel free to leave comments or feedback!

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2011, 12:23:19 AM »
uh...uh...ah...uh... where is it?
Good question!
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2011, 03:05:03 AM »
It's got to be this one.

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2011, 03:23:38 AM »
You're right... Followed.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2011, 04:46:00 AM »
It's got to be this one.
Interesting, I followed the links and I'm glad to see there's some activity again. There's a P7 concert later the year in Germany :) I wish I could see the 6th one day.

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2011, 05:34:14 AM »
Hi everyone,

Wow, it's a good thing I'm not in the marketing business.  :P I advertised my blog today, but didn't even provide the address. If you haven't found it already from earlier posts, here it is:

http://allanpettersson100.blogspot.com/

Spread the word to all the Pettersson fans you know (besides yourself!) and to anyone who may be interested. Pettersson is not played to quite the same extent as Brahms, so any help would be great.

Thanks!


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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2011, 09:31:34 AM »
Thanks for the link, I'll be a regular visitor.
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #76 on: January 05, 2011, 08:25:08 AM »
There's a P7 concert later the year in Germany :)

Where? What orchestra? Who's conducting?

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2011, 09:18:01 AM »
Where? What orchestra? Who's conducting?
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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2011, 10:28:29 AM »
Right on his 100th birthday (19 September)!

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Re: Allan Pettersson for Newbies
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2011, 11:02:02 AM »
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Thanks. Mrs. Rock's sister lives in Bremen. We could combine a family visit with the concert.

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