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Offline Maestro267

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« Reply #7260 on: March 07, 2017, 03:00:26 AM »
And news is that the Naxos CD to contain Symphonies Nos. 8, 26 and ? (can't remember) will be released in October.

Hmm. Bit longer wait than I was expecting, but at least we have a date. Plenty of time for me to pick up some more of the already-released discs.

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Re: Havergal Brian.
« Reply #7261 on: March 07, 2017, 05:38:20 AM »
Add that to the forthcoming releases of another Holbrooke cd from Cpo,and Sacheverell Coke Piano Concertos from Hyperion,and I should have plenty of time to save for the new cd!! ::) :)
By the way,the Faust fund appears to have stopped at just over 90% of it's target. So near,so far?!! :( :( :(

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« Reply #7262 on: March 07, 2017, 06:14:33 AM »
It's just a matter of time. I think the goal will be reached eventually.
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« Reply #7263 on: March 17, 2017, 11:16:56 AM »
Ordered two more Brian discs today. Symphonies 10 & 30, Concerto for Orchestra and English Suite No. 3 (RSNO/Brabbins), and Symphonies Nos. 6, 28, 29 & 31 (Russian State SO/Walker). It's mainly a case of plugging in small gaps now. Nos. 6 & 10 are the only ones missing of the first 12 in my collection.

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« Reply #7264 on: March 17, 2017, 11:19:38 AM »
Then you're in for a treat - 6 and 10 are among the best.


P.S. Those discs you ordered are excellent!
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« Reply #7265 on: March 18, 2017, 11:00:15 AM »
Then you're in for a treat - 6 and 10 are among the best.


P.S. Those discs you ordered are excellent!

I've heard both before, No. 6 in the Radio 3 performance last year, and parts of No. 10 in the Unknown Warrior documentary on Youtube.

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« Reply #7266 on: March 18, 2017, 11:02:58 AM »
Please report back when you have listened to the two discs!
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« Reply #7267 on: March 18, 2017, 12:11:41 PM »
I've heard both before, No. 6 in the Radio 3 performance last year, and parts of No. 10 in the Unknown Warrior documentary on Youtube.

Unknown Warrior documentary? Link?
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« Reply #7268 on: March 18, 2017, 12:16:36 PM »
Unknown Warrior documentary? Link?

Great to see the grand old man himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7_wiFeDIU
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« Reply #7269 on: March 18, 2017, 12:19:08 PM »
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« Reply #7270 on: March 22, 2017, 03:50:15 AM »
Ordered two more Brian discs today. Symphonies 10 & 30, Concerto for Orchestra and English Suite No. 3 (RSNO/Brabbins), and Symphonies Nos. 6, 28, 29 & 31 (Russian State SO/Walker). It's mainly a case of plugging in small gaps now. Nos. 6 & 10 are the only ones missing of the first 12 in my collection.

Both these discs have now arrived. Currently listening to No. 10 as I write. The "calm before the storm" section (c. 4-5 mins in) sent shivers down my spine in only the way that the pre-storm moments in Strauss' Alpensinfonie have done before. I also didn't expect the offstage trumpet. That's a nice touch.

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« Reply #7271 on: March 22, 2017, 03:54:05 AM »
I happen to have listened to no. 10, too, again after a long time. And yes, that utterly still passage remains very striking, and very poetic.
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« Reply #7272 on: March 22, 2017, 05:50:36 AM »
No 10 is one of the greatest - after much turbulence it arrives at 'a sense of hard-won yet lasting triumph' as I think Harold Truscott (also an interesting composer) wrote in that fine old Penguin Guide to the Symphony Vol. 2.
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« Reply #7273 on: March 22, 2017, 06:09:03 AM »
No 10 is one of the greatest - after much turbulence it arrives at 'a sense of hard-won yet lasting triumph' as I think Harold Truscott (also an interesting composer) wrote in that fine old Penguin Guide to the Symphony Vol. 2.

It remain my favourite, as many of you recall that it was the work that connected to my experience working to help air crash victims and families. It has special meaning to me.
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« Reply #7274 on: March 22, 2017, 01:52:19 PM »
Another little element to Havergal Brian's music I enjoy is his tendency to let cymbal crashes ring out at the end of movements, even after the other instruments stop playing. This is most notable in the 7th Symphony, where each movement ends with a resonating cymbal, bell or tam-tam strike. The Symphony No. 30 ends with this effect too, with the cymbals and tam-tam left sounding after the bare-fifth B flat chord ends.

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« Reply #7275 on: March 22, 2017, 02:21:46 PM »
Well-listened. The 7th is indeed remarkable in that respect, with every movement ending that way. The 8th and 12th also end with a gong-stroke, soft in the former, loud in the latter.
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« Reply #7276 on: March 22, 2017, 02:37:42 PM »
The key in which the Seventh ends was also quite unexpected on first listen, from this listener's point of view. Brian's a fantastic, colourful writer for percussion.

And while I'm here, this week's purchases takes my Brian symphony total up to 24/32. I just need Nos. 13, 16, 18, 21-24 and 26 to complete the set now.
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« Reply #7277 on: March 22, 2017, 02:47:10 PM »
The key in which the Seventh ends was also quite unexpected on first listen, from this listener's point of view. Brian's a fantastic, colourful writer for percussion.


Yes, that final chord is magical. Brian is endlessly inventive. It remains a mystery he still hasn't really broken through, hearing his music live is such an invigorating experience. In 1987 I was in Liverpool, at the Philharmonic Hall, to hear the Seventh 'in the flesh'. I can still remember it.
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« Reply #7278 on: March 22, 2017, 02:48:17 PM »
And while I'm here, this week's purchases takes my Brian symphony total up to 24/32. I just need Nos. 13, 16, 18, 21-24 and 26 to complete the set now.


Very good!
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« Reply #7279 on: March 22, 2017, 04:09:09 PM »
Sorry if I'm late to the party but did Faust ever get fully funded?

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