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Offline Lethevich

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Tone Poems
« on: June 16, 2007, 12:24:41 AM »
You know you wanna :) Includes symphonic poems and concert overtures.

Sibelius - The Bard
Sibelius - Luonnotar
Sibelius - Pohjola's Daughter
Sibelius - Snöfrid
Sibelius - The Oceanides
Berlioz - Roman Carnival Overture
Dvořák - The Noon Witch
Strauss - Don Quixote
Bax - Tintagel
Tchaikovsky - Francesca da Rimini

The tone poems are my favourite area of Sibelius's work. It is probably heresy to rate them above the symphonies, but they feel more naturally organic to me with the absence of the formal requirements of a symphony :)

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2007, 12:48:16 AM »
Strauss: Don Quixotte

Stravinsky: The songt of the nightingale

Schönberg: Verklärte Nacht

Sibelius: Tapiola

Rachmaninov: The Island of the Death

Strauss: Don Juan

Dvorak: The Water Goblin

Liszt: Heroide Funebre

Smetana: Vltava

Vincent d'Indy: Ishtar

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2007, 02:11:14 AM »
Mussorgsky - Night on the Bald Mountain
Tchaikovsky - Francesca da Rimini
Scriabin - Promethee
Scriabin - Le Poeme de l'Extase
Sibelius - Tapiola
Rachmaninov - Isle of the Dead
Dvorak - The Water Goblin
Janacek - Taras Bulba
Ravel - La Valse
Revueltas - Sensemaya

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 02:23:55 AM »
A couple not mentioned so far:

Zemlinsky--Die Seejungfrau (The Mermaid)
Delius--Over the Hills and Far Away
Novak--Lady Godiva (technically an overture, but essentially an extended tone poem)
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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 02:58:08 AM »
Ian Sibelius: Swan of Tuonela

Richard Strauss: Till Eulenspiegel

Malipiero: Sinfonia del Mare

Debussy: La Mer, Printemps

Schönberg: Verklärte Nacht

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 03:20:17 AM »
Liszt's Dante Symphony (think there's a sonata too...) and his Faust Symphony...

(Plus whatever the contents are on Brilliant's boxed set of Liszt's tone poems...)

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 05:12:22 AM »
There is Eine Alpensinfinie and then there is everything else, with Ein Heldenleben , Death and Transfiguration a close second and third.

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 06:04:47 AM »
The tone poems are my favourite area of Sibelius's work. It is probably heresy to rate them above the symphonies, but they feel more naturally organic to me with the absence of the formal requirements of a symphony :)

I agree. I am not a Sibelius fan but he was good in tone poems.
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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2007, 09:16:15 AM »
I agree. I am not a Sibelius fan but he was good in tone poems.

As an Elgar fan, I figured YOU of all people would be able to appreciate the subtle complexity of Sibelius's symphonies. I guess I was wrong.  :-\

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2007, 09:55:31 AM »
As an Elgar fan, I figured YOU of all people would be able to appreciate the subtle complexity of Sibelius's symphonies. I guess I was wrong.  :-\

I used to like Sibelius before I really started to listen to classical music. Nowadays I find his symphonies simple and orchestrated in an annoying way.
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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2007, 10:24:24 AM »
I used to like Sibelius before I really started to listen to classical music. Nowadays I find his symphonies simple and orchestrated in an annoying way.

Christ...you only like "complex" music don't you. Simple music can be very emotionally touching too, you know.

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2007, 10:27:03 AM »
I used to like Sibelius before I really started to listen to classical music. Nowadays I find his symphonies simple and orchestrated in an annoying way.

All right. Say what you will about his orchestration, but his symphonies are not simple. It's not a matter of taste, it's a fact. I'll leave it at that for the sake of the thread.

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2007, 10:54:23 AM »
Christ...you only like "complex" music don't you. Simple music can be very emotionally touching too, you know.

I like simple music too.  ;)

All right. Say what you will about his orchestration, but his symphonies are not simple. It's not a matter of taste, it's a fact. I'll leave it at that for the sake of the thread.

Sibelius has some complexity. I admit that.
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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2007, 11:04:56 AM »
I primerally want to find some outside the big names to look into.

Some of my favorites, off the beaten path:

Havergal Brian - In Memoriam
Smetana - Richard III
Smetana - Wallenstein's Camp
Smetana - Hakon Jarl
Tchaikovsky - Voyevode
Tchaikovsky - The Tempest
Nielsen - Saga-Drøm
Nielsen - Pan og Syrinx

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2007, 11:12:51 AM »
Mikolajus Konstantinas Čiurlionis - Jūra (The Sea)

Mikolajus Konstantinas Čiurlionis - Miške (In the Forest)

Richard Strauss - Tod und Verklärung

Sibelius - Tapiola

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2007, 12:58:22 PM »
Dvořák : The Noonday Witch
Dvorak :  The Water Goblin
Elgar : Falstaff
Rachmaninov: The Isle Of The Dead
Ravel : La Valse
Sibelius: Tapiola
Strauss : Also Sprach Zarathustra
Strauss : Metamorphosen
Tchaikovsky - Francesca da Rimini
Vaughan-Williams : Fantasia On A Theme Of Thomas Tallis


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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2007, 01:27:42 PM »
Tchaikovsky 1812 overture
Tchaikovsky Romeo and Juliet fantasy overture
Liszt Les Preludes
Strauss Also sparch Zarathustra
Beethoven Egmont overture
Mozart Marriage of Figaro overture
Smetana Ma Vlast

etc...I know the LvB and Mozart aren't concert overtures, but what the hey  :P

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2007, 01:29:44 PM »
i would say none, since i couldn't remember which ones are tone poems

but this page gave me a few ideas...

Poem of Ecstasy, Prometheus, La Mer, Nocturnes and Isle of the Dead. That's 10, right?

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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2007, 04:16:29 AM »
Strauss       : Ein Heldenleben
Strauss       : Also spracht Zarathoustra
Strauss       : Till Eulenspiegel
Strauss       : Death and transfiguration
Saint-Saëns : Danse macabre
Liszt           : Tasso. Lamento i triunfo
Liszt           : Hungaria
beethoven   : Egmont
Borodin        : In the steppes of central Asia
Nielsen        : Helios

No particular order, except the 1st four.
I'm mad about Strauss
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Re: Top 10 tone poems
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2007, 08:13:50 AM »
Someone had already listed my other poems but my absolute favorite (can listen to it over and over again) is

Dawn on the Moscow River (overture to Mussorgsky's opera Khovanshchina).  Conducted by Gergiev.

Guess that's not a tone poem but I don't care. 

Someone, please tell me you finally listened to this gorgeous music.
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