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Did Horowitz ever actually study with Schnabel, or were they just friends?  :-\ I have a book with a picture of them together in 1932...



Well, in that book ("Artur Schnabel - Musiker/Musician, 1882-1951", hg. Werner Grünzweig, Stiftung Archiv der Akademie der Künste, Hofheim: Wolke, 2001) it says, next to the picture, that Horowitz privately played for Schnabel in 1923 (while Schnabel was in St. Petersburg), that he was enthusiastic and later helped H. leave Russia, that H. wanted to have Sch. teach him, which Sch. found unnecessary (there's a reference to his autobiographic lectures there, "Aus dir wird nie ein pianist", which I don't have). So the answer is right there and is: no  :)

Adding this: the picture is online, too:



Courtesy of the Schnabel Music Foundation:
http://schnabelmusicfoundation.com/artists/artur-schnabel/artur-schnabel-gallery/
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Thanks v much! I'm listening to Schnabel's Beethoven op109 in the GPOTC 2CD issue :)

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I wonder if the BBC will release any more of its live recordings of Boult/Gilels Beethoven concerto cycle in 1967? They've only released #1 & #3 so far. My understanding is that all 5 were recorded.



He seemed to have enjoyed their collaboration :)

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This is Benno Moiseiwitsch doing Chopin's 3rd sonata and at least from the point of view of interpretation it's worth catching. Was it ever released commercially?
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This is Benno Moiseiwitsch doing Chopin's 3rd sonata and at least from the point of view of interpretation it's worth catching. Was it ever released commercially?

Yep: https://www.amazon.com/Recital-Ludwig-van-Beethoven/dp/B000000WQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1466715497&sr=8-1&keywords=Pearl+in+recital+benno
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Re: "Golden Age Pianists":Cortot, Moiseiwitsch,Sofronitsky,Ney,Michelangeli etc
« Reply #106 on: November 29, 2016, 03:07:04 PM »
Even though it's written in French, maybe some members of the board will be interested to know that a discography of Vladimir Sofronitsky is available through a download link near the top of this page (next to the PDF icon):

https://sofronitskydiscographie.wordpress.com/

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Re: "Golden Age Pianists":Cortot, Moiseiwitsch,Sofronitsky,Ney,Michelangeli etc
« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2016, 04:13:31 PM »
Even though it's written in French, maybe some members of the board will be interested to know that a discography of Vladimir Sofronitsky is available through a download link near the top of this page (next to the PDF icon):

https://sofronitskydiscographie.wordpress.com/

Thanks!! Does Adobe translate?
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Re: "Golden Age Pianists":Cortot, Moiseiwitsch,Sofronitsky,Ney,Michelangeli etc
« Reply #108 on: November 30, 2016, 10:00:10 AM »
Thanks!! Does Adobe translate?

Hi George,

I'm not sure I understand the question; is there an Adobe application for translation?  Probably, if one copies and pastes portions of the PDF text to Google Translate he/she will get an approximate translation.  To be honest, there's currently no plan for an English version...  ;)  (And I'm sorry I posted this here; there are better threads out there...)
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Is this really Cortot playing Haydn variations? I think it is.


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What are your thoughts on Eileen Joyce as a pianist?
As you may know Decca/Eloquence just released a compilation that includes the previous studio recordings issued by APR (2011) and a number of new ones.

Review @ MusicWeb: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Mar/Joyce_studio_4826291.htm
Review for the 2011 APR: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/Mar12/Joyce_Parlaphone_7502.htm

Decca/Eloquence's site: https://eloquenceclassics.com/releases/eileen-joyce-the-complete-studio-recordings/



Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Joyce

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I came across this fascinating interview with the British pianist Harriet Cohen (recorded in 1962)
(Sibelius, Bax and more....)

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What are your thoughts on Eileen Joyce as a pianist?
As you may know Decca/Eloquence just released a compilation that includes the previous studio recordings issued by APR (2011) and a number of new ones.

Review @ MusicWeb: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2018/Mar/Joyce_studio_4826291.htm
Review for the 2011 APR: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/Mar12/Joyce_Parlaphone_7502.htm



Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Joyce

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Do you know if the new box contains the APR transfers or did they do them all over again?
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cbf going through the whole thread. Just want to know: are there any good recordings available, particularly box sets, of Josef Hofmann's work up until 1938?

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Do you know if the new box contains the APR transfers or did they do them all over again?
Good question, George. I do not have the set (yet) so I cannot check the issue of the transfers. The reviewer at MusicWeb mentions that the recordings found in the APR release are also in the new Decca/Eloquence compilation. It is not exactly clear how thay have been processed at this point in time. Does anybody own the set that could check this specific question?  :-\
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Good question, George. I do not have the set (yet) so I cannot check the issue of the transfers. The reviewer at MusicWeb mentions that the recordings found in the APR release are also in the new Decca/Eloquence compilation. It is not exactly clear how thay have been processed at this point in time. Does anybody own the set that could check this specific question?  :-\

I found this in the MusicWeb review:

"The recordings, spanning twenty-five years from 1933-1958 have scrubbed up well, and sound fresh and vibrant in expert restorations and remasterings by Mark Obert-Thorn and Chris Bernauer."

Obert-Thorn being involved is great news, but I wonder how much of the set he did?
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I found this in the MusicWeb review:

"The recordings, spanning twenty-five years from 1933-1958 have scrubbed up well, and sound fresh and vibrant in expert restorations and remasterings by Mark Obert-Thorn and Chris Bernauer."

Obert-Thorn being involved is great news, but I wonder how much of the set he did?

It seems promising...but one can read this statement either way:
"Only APR have seriously championed her cause with a 5-CD set: ‘The Complete Parlophone and Columbia Solo Recordings 1933-1945’, issued in 2011. Needless to say, all of those recordings are to be found in this new Eloquence edition."

I wish this kind of information (as well as the actual booklets) were available on the label's web site!  >:(
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It seems promising...but one can read this statement either way:
"Only APR have seriously championed her cause with a 5-CD set: ‘The Complete Parlophone and Columbia Solo Recordings 1933-1945’, issued in 2011. Needless to say, all of those recordings are to be found in this new Eloquence edition."

I wish this kind of information (as well as the actual booklets) were available on the label's web site!  >:(

I just dug out Mark's email and sent him a message, asking for clarification.

EDIT he responded 60 mins later with this:

"...basically it's the five discs of the APR set I did, plus new transfers I did for the Decca set, excluding the Decca 78 rpm piano solo sides and "Barazza" (transferred by Seth Winner) and the Tchaikovsky 2nd Piano Concerto (transferred by Ward Marston).  I did everything else, although in a couple instances (the Rachmaninov 2nd Concerto and one unissued piano side), I had to work from flat, unedited transfers sent to me by the British Library and the EMI Archives.  The person who is co-credited for "remastering" in the booklet actually did the technical bits of CD authoring associated with the release.  The co-crediting is misleading.  I hope this makes things more clear. "
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I just dug out Mark's email and sent him a message, asking for clarification.

EDIT he responded 60 mins later with this:

"...basically it's the five discs of the APR set I did, plus new transfers I did for the Decca set, excluding the Decca 78 rpm piano solo sides and "Barazza" (transferred by Seth Winner) and the Tchaikovsky 2nd Piano Concerto (transferred by Ward Marston).  I did everything else, although in a couple instances (the Rachmaninov 2nd Concerto and one unissued piano side), I had to work from flat, unedited transfers sent to me by the British Library and the EMI Archives.  The person who is co-credited for "remastering" in the booklet actually did the technical bits of CD authoring associated with the release.  The co-crediting is misleading.  I hope this makes things more clear. "

That is fantastic! Thanks for contacting Mark, George! He was certainly most kind in responding so quickly and with so much detailed information!
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APR is acknowledged in the set as source. I can look up further details (for the remaining parts of the box) if needed at home tonight.

EDIT: first post from my work computer in what, three months? First time I was able to click around on the site for 15-20 times without being thrown out. There is hope ...
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