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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1840 on: May 24, 2018, 06:03:16 AM »
Nikolayeva was supposedly well over the hill when she recorded the Hyperion set of the Preludes & Fugues.  I must say I don't notice anything untoward, and the piano recording is exceptionally good (warm, in an open acoustic), and of course Nikolayeva is uniquely authoritative in this music.  This was actually the first CD (set) I ever bought - having a collection of about 800 LPs, I finally cracked and bought my first CD player, and this set to play on it.  In retrospect was a very good choice.


My own favourite recording now is actually Jenny Lin on Hanssler (generally a bit more brio than either Nikolayeva or Melnikov, and the best recorded of any P&F set, I think). 
To be avoided, unfortunately, is Keith Jarrett, pale and lifeless.  Somewhere in between - Nikolayeva on Melodiya, Woodward, Papadopoulos, Mustonen, DSCH himself (on Naxos) - and a special mention for Peter Katina who plays them on accordion (not a complete set).


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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1841 on: May 24, 2018, 06:12:08 AM »
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 10                 Mravinsky/Leningrad PO

Excellent! The horns! The horns!  Ahhhhhhh! I cannot quite decide if I like this one better than Rostropovich's rendition. Hmm...
*leaning towards Mravinsky*

This is such a great symphony! I have been obsessed with Rostopovich's performance of S10 in the past so Mravinsky's performance with the Leningrad forces impressed me. (Perhaps I'm too easily impressed by the Russian horn section?). I feel like I'm wandering through a storm of challenges, wind beating my face and destiny is rapidly approaching. Ah, fate!

What are your favorite 10s?

Karl mentioned Jansons/Philadelphia, which is excellent. Also:

Karajan/Berlin (both versions)
Solti/Chicago (surprised me)
Dohnányi/Cleveland (with a great coupling, Lutoslawski Musique funèbre)
Haitink/LPO

Browsing Amazon, there are many versions I've not yet heard, such as the recent one with Andris Nelsons/Boston. Great to have so many recordings of the piece available.

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1842 on: May 24, 2018, 06:28:30 AM »
Splendid!

The Melnikov set is wonderful.

Very good, also, is the Scherbakov on Naxos.

Oddly, no one ever seems to mention Ashkenazy's Shostakovich 24 p&f. It was my introduction to the piece, and the only recording I've ever listened to.

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1843 on: May 24, 2018, 06:45:49 AM »
Oddly, no one ever seems to mention Ashkenazy's Shostakovich 24 p&f. It was my introduction to the piece, and the only recording I've ever listened to.

I've not heard it!
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« Reply #1844 on: May 24, 2018, 06:49:15 AM »
I've not heard it!

It seems to be out-of-print and rare these days. I seem to recall it was a standard choice back in the day, before lots of recordings started coming out.



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« Reply #1845 on: May 24, 2018, 06:56:44 AM »
It seems to be out-of-print and rare these days. I seem to recall it was a standard choice back in the day, before lots of recordings started coming out.




This languishes in my Wish List, chiefly for the Ashkenazy.

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« Reply #1846 on: May 24, 2018, 08:03:33 AM »
It's been a while, but I recall thinking very highly of the Ashkenazy Op. 87 (preferring it over the excellent Scherbakov) - and of the rest of that box. ;)
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1847 on: May 24, 2018, 08:49:43 AM »
It's been a while, but I recall thinking very highly of the Ashkenazy Op. 87 (preferring it over the excellent Scherbakov) - and of the rest of that box. ;)

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1848 on: May 24, 2018, 03:29:17 PM »
It seems to be out-of-print and rare these days. I seem to recall it was a standard choice back in the day, before lots of recordings started coming out.




Yeah, I've praised this set many times on the board, and I've spent an almost equal amount of time fighting with Bulldog who decidedly isn't a fan of the set! :D
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1849 on: May 24, 2018, 06:51:07 PM »
Cross-posted from the ‘Purchases’ thread:

Just bought:



I’ve had my eye on this set ever since I bought the Melnikov set on Harmonia Mundi, but I finally decided to just go for it.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1850 on: May 24, 2018, 07:38:21 PM »
Cross-posted from the ‘Purchases’ thread:

I’ve had my eye on this set ever since I bought the Melnikov set on Harmonia Mundi, but I finally decided to just go for it.

Essential. I prefer her Hyperion set — a minority opinion — but both are great.
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« Reply #1851 on: May 24, 2018, 07:49:12 PM »
Essential. I prefer her Hyperion set — a minority opinion — but both are great.

Why would you say you find the Hyperion set more preferable? Yes, yours is a minority opinion as I’ve read that most listeners seem to prefer the 60s and 80s performances.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1852 on: May 24, 2018, 08:01:28 PM »
Why would you say you find the Hyperion set more preferable? Yes, yours is a minority opinion as I’ve read that most listeners seem to prefer the 60s and 80s performances.
The better sound helps. I also found it more reflective. There's a lot of low-key stuff and I think that comes across better. I have all three and like them all.
I also like the set on Atma, but I forget the pianist right now.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1853 on: May 24, 2018, 08:33:14 PM »
David Jalbert?

My reference is also the Ashkenazy, ideal combination of performer & work imo. But I used to have the Hyperion Nikolayeva (as MP3 files ripped from a library CD) and it was about equally good, maybe somewhat too demonstrative for my taste.

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« Reply #1854 on: May 24, 2018, 10:03:03 PM »
The better sound helps. I also found it more reflective. There's a lot of low-key stuff and I think that comes across better.

All this, I agree.

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1855 on: May 25, 2018, 04:05:07 AM »
The Hyperion set is the only one I own, and... I actually don't entirely like the sound and that's one of the reasons I'm considering getting a 2nd set. The acoustic is a bit distant for my taste.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1856 on: June 22, 2018, 09:28:08 AM »
On March 24th we went to hear the Shostakovich Fourth in Symphony Hall.  (I am a little puzzled to find that I have not written of that evening, here on GMG?)  Anyway, maybe this is revisionism, but my impression (today) is that it was an amazing performance (back in March).  So when a promotional e-mail came in earlier this week announcing free shipping on pre-orders of the two-CD set of the Fourth and the Eleventh, at $22, I was corn to their sickle.  I placed the order today (expected to ship 10 July).
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #1857 on: June 22, 2018, 09:49:27 AM »
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« Reply #1858 on: June 22, 2018, 09:55:44 AM »
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« Reply #1859 on: June 22, 2018, 12:24:05 PM »
I just heard DSCH's orchestration of Tahiti Trot today. Pretty amazing stuff that he orchestrated the thing in about 45 minutes and it is just SO Shostakovich like: the piccolo, e-flat clarinet, xylophone, muted trumpet all having a grand old time.

 

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