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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #160 on: January 30, 2017, 12:50:19 AM »
I was a friend of the Harpist Danielle at university. I once had to help transport her harp for a concert.  8)
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #161 on: January 30, 2017, 04:16:14 AM »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #162 on: March 18, 2017, 08:51:32 PM »
Great surprise for me to discover so beautiful music of him. I love how climax is built in his symphonies, he knew to be very dramatic without being bombastic. It's inevitable not to feel any echo of Brahms and Nielsen there (especially in the first seven symphonies, the latter ones are more intimate). All of them have seemed interesting to me (maybe the No. 9 the least), from the very beginning of the No. 1 I was catched for such peculiar sounds.

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #163 on: March 18, 2017, 11:00:32 PM »
Great surprise for me to discover so beautiful music of him. I love how climax is built in his symphonies, he knew to be very dramatic without being bombastic. It's inevitable not to feel any echo of Brahms and Nielsen there (especially in the first seven symphonies, the latter ones are more intimate). All of them have seemed interesting to me (maybe the No. 9 the least), from the very beginning of the No. 1 I was catched for such peculiar sounds.
1 and 4 to 8 and 10 are my favourites. As with Atterberg I've never got my head round No.9.
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« Reply #164 on: March 19, 2017, 03:28:24 PM »
1 and 4 to 8 and 10 are my favourites. As with Atterberg I've never got my head round No.9.

Two works where the fusion of symphony with choir was not very successful.

In addition, it's a shame that his piano concerto is not on CD. I would like to have it!

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #165 on: March 20, 2017, 12:12:13 AM »
Two works where the fusion of symphony with choir was not very successful.

In addition, it's a shame that his piano concerto is not on CD. I would like to have it!
The Rubbra PC is on CD:


I notice the image takes you to the U.S. Amazon site but the CD is considerably cheaper (second-hand) on Amazon UK.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britten-Rubbra-Piano-Concertos-Benjamin/dp/B00005Q2X5/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1489997695&sr=1-1&keywords=Rubbra+piano+concerto
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« Reply #166 on: March 20, 2017, 04:15:51 PM »
The Rubbra PC is on CD:


I notice the image take you to the U.S. Amazon site but the CD is considerably cheaper (second-hand) on Amazon UK.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britten-Rubbra-Piano-Concertos-Benjamin/dp/B00005Q2X5/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1489997695&sr=1-1&keywords=Rubbra+piano+concerto

 :o :o I didn't know about that recording. Many thanks!

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #167 on: March 20, 2017, 07:08:58 PM »
The Rubbra PC is on CD:


I notice the image take you to the U.S. Amazon site but the CD is considerably cheaper (second-hand) on Amazon UK.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Britten-Rubbra-Piano-Concertos-Benjamin/dp/B00005Q2X5/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1489997695&sr=1-1&keywords=Rubbra+piano+concerto

This is the wrong composer.  You can clearly see from Amazon that it is Benjamin Rubbra coupled with Edmund Britten.

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #168 on: March 20, 2017, 11:46:34 PM »
This is the wrong composer.  You can clearly see from Amazon that it is Benjamin Rubbra coupled with Edmund Britten.
That's very funny. A friend of mine called Brian Williams wanted to change his name to 'Williams Brian' after I introduced him to the music of Havergal Brian.  8)
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #169 on: March 20, 2017, 11:48:22 PM »
:o :o I didn't know about that recording. Many thanks!
My pleasure it's a historical though fine performance.
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #170 on: August 16, 2017, 11:08:22 AM »
New release:


Also includes music by Cyril Scott performed by Rubbra.
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #171 on: August 16, 2017, 12:29:32 PM »
We kept the picture:
Great for slicing up pedestrians!

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #172 on: August 16, 2017, 12:50:10 PM »
Great for slicing up pedestrians!
Yes, several were tragically chopped in half when I helped Danielle transport her harp to the concert.
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #173 on: January 10, 2018, 02:00:51 PM »
Looks like a fascinating new release. It features the premiere performance of the moving 4th Symphony conducted by the composer (in military uniform) at the Proms in London in 1942. The 4th Symphony has a wonderfully inspiriting conclusion and a most beautiful opening. Boult was the dedicatee of Symphony 2:

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #174 on: January 10, 2018, 11:14:37 PM »
Yes, several were tragically chopped in half when I helped Danielle transport her harp to the concert. 8)
Fabricando fit artem, you've got to crack a few eggs to make an omelette.  ;D
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #175 on: February 08, 2018, 02:07:17 PM »
Looks like a fascinating new release. It features the premiere performance of the moving 4th Symphony conducted by the composer (in military uniform) at the Proms in London in 1942. The 4th Symphony has a wonderfully inspiriting conclusion and a most beautiful opening. Boult was the dedicatee of Symphony 2:


The performances here have a special intensity to them which I find gripping. The recordings are old (1942 and 1954) but they did not stop me from enjoying this compelling music. The 'triumph against the odds' ending of the war time Symphony 4 is taken much more slowly here than in the rival performances by Hickox and Del Mar, good as they are, and is all the more moving for it. The performance is the premiere conducted by Rubbra (in military uniform) in 1942 and evidently went down well with the audience. Boult was the dedicatee of Symphony 2 and it is here performed with great urgency. There is an interesting broadcast of Rubbra discussing Symphony 4 complete with musical examples played on the piano. Altogether a wonderful disc.
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #176 on: February 08, 2018, 09:42:07 PM »
I once played the Symphony No.4 to my family and at the end someone commented, 'No wonder the Allies prevailed in WW2'!

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #177 on: February 09, 2018, 03:36:02 AM »
I once played the Symphony No.4 to my family and at the end someone commented, 'No wonder the Allies prevailed in WW2'!

I like that!

It is a great symphony I think.

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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2018, 12:48:12 PM »
The ending of Rubbra's 4th Symphony is indeed deeply inspiriting. Rubbra's musical language is generally quite restrained and subtle, but when he finally "opens up", as he does at the end of the 4th, the effect is marvelous!
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Re: Edmund Rubbra (1901-1986)
« Reply #179 on: February 10, 2018, 01:25:44 AM »
The ending of Rubbra's 4th Symphony is indeed deeply inspiriting. Rubbra's musical language is generally quite restrained and subtle, but when he finally "opens up", as he does at the end of the 4th, the effect is marvelous!
Totally agree Kyle and that is especially true of the end of Symphony 4 in this new release of the premiere performance conducted by Rubbra himself. The 5th Symphony has a similarly inspiriting ending. As, for that matter, do the endings of Hilding Rosenberg's 2nd and 3rd symphonies. He reminds me of Rubbra in a way and is another of my favourite composers. I think that there is an underlying gravity and spirituality to much of his music as well.
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