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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #160 on: September 07, 2010, 06:41:22 AM »
Even if we can't amend other people's suggestions, we can try to convince people to change their own picks.  For instance, if we have the entire Ring, do we need Tristan?   Maybe Strauss's Salome or Rosenkavelier instead?

Is the Requiem that most characteristic Verdi?  Why not Otello?

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #161 on: September 07, 2010, 06:48:40 AM »
Even if we can't amend other people's suggestions, we can try to convince people to change their own picks.

I agree. To that effect, please change your Berg Chamber Concerto to Berg's Violin Concerto ;)

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #162 on: September 07, 2010, 06:51:08 AM »

Strauss Eine Alpensinfonie (Kempe)
Wagner Parsifal (Kubelik)

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #163 on: September 07, 2010, 06:54:18 AM »
A sweet plan. One Ring is enough Wagner for a short(ish) list.

98   Wagner           Tristan und Isolde               Böhm (1966)
Strauss - Salome (Solti/Nilsson/Decca)

Issues alongside what David Ross observed: no Haydn or Schubert symphony disc, two Pärt discs (speaking as a fan, this is excessive), no Mussorgsky's Pictures, no Tchaikovsky PC1 or Sym6. No Grieg/Schumann PC coupling either. No Mendelssohn italian symphony either, eek!
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« Reply #164 on: September 07, 2010, 06:56:35 AM »
. . . two Pärt discs (speaking as a fan, this is excessive) . . . .

2/100 . . . agreed.

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #165 on: September 07, 2010, 06:57:09 AM »

Strauss - Salome (Solti/Nilsson/Decca)




I second (not that it matters).

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #166 on: September 07, 2010, 06:59:21 AM »
Your agreement matters, Andy! : )

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #167 on: September 07, 2010, 07:00:29 AM »
I second (not that it matters).
Frankly, anyone who can enjoy the music and not be put off by the cover photograph is fine by me ;D

Nilsson is simply the best Salome. Whether you have to be blind or just enlightened to realise this, I am not sure.
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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #168 on: September 07, 2010, 07:01:25 AM »
Won't be the first cover I've had to disregard . . . .

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #169 on: September 07, 2010, 07:03:01 AM »
I agree. To that effect, please change your Berg Chamber Concerto to Berg's Violin Concerto ;)

Ok, I agree (Berg Violin Concerto, Mutter, Levine, Chicago Symphony) conditional on you changing your Mahler 5 to Barbirolli's recording.   :P

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #170 on: September 07, 2010, 07:06:44 AM »
Oh, gosh, I am sorry to see that Chamber Concerto recording go!

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #171 on: September 07, 2010, 07:07:15 AM »
Ok, I agree (Berg Violin Concerto, Mutter, Levine, Chicago Symphony) conditional on you changing your Mahler 5 to Barbirolli's recording.   :P

Nah, Dohnányi and Cleveland blow the socks off the stodgy Barbirolli.

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #172 on: September 07, 2010, 07:08:25 AM »
Frankly, anyone who can enjoy the music and not be put off by the cover photograph is fine by me ;D

Nilsson is simply the best Salome. Whether you have to be blind or just enlightened to realise this, I am not sure.

She was also the best Elektra, Brunnhilde, and definitely maybe Isolde, in my humble opinion.


Your agreement matters, Andy! : )


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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #173 on: September 07, 2010, 07:08:46 AM »
Oh, gosh, I am sorry to see that Chamber Concerto recording go!

That's the problem with changing things now. I'm very sorry to see Tristan go...it's a far more important opera, in my opinion, than Salome.

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #174 on: September 07, 2010, 07:10:31 AM »
That's the problem with changing things now. I'm very sorry to see Tristan go...it's a far more important opera, in my opinion, than Salome.

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Would there have been a Salome without Tristan und Isolde? I'm betting there certainly wouldn't have been an Elektra without it.

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« Reply #175 on: September 07, 2010, 07:11:12 AM »
Oh, gosh, I am sorry to see that Chamber Concerto recording go!

Chamber Concerto Stays!

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2010, 07:12:18 AM »
Nilsson is simply the best Salome. Whether you have to be blind or just enlightened to realise this, I am not sure.

I prefer Behrens, Studer, Nielsen, Welitsch and Caballé (edit: and Natalie Portman, I forgot Natalie Portman)...but then, I'm completely unenlightened  ;D

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2010, 07:15:20 AM »
As long as we don't come to blows, I welcome a vigorous discussion of alternatives, and lobbying is permitted, but as Grand Poobah of this thread, I rule against changing anyone else's picks but your own.  Heck, I'm not sure even that is ideal, as many of our choices were doubtless conditioned by our expectations about what others might or might not select...but I'm open to it if y'all think a revised list would be interesting as well (and even though keeping track of revisions might prove a chore I'll regret!  ;)

And for those late to the party, or who wish to carry this exercise a step further in a slightly different direction, I've just started a Personal Essentials List thread here: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,17174.msg447443.html#msg447443
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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #178 on: September 07, 2010, 07:33:26 AM »
I prefer Behrens, Studer, Nielsen, Welitsch and Caballé (edit: and Natalie Portman, I forgot Natalie Portman)...but then, I'm completely unenlightened  ;D

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I prefer Behrens, Studer, Nielsen, Welitsch and Caballé (edit: and Natalie Portman, I forgot Natalie Portman)...but then, I'm completely unenlightened  ;D

Sarge


I liked the Studer, but the rest I haven't heard. I thought that Stratas was an excellent Salome, and I love the dvd.

It's hard for me not to pick Nilsson, she's my favorite female heavy metal singer, ever.

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Re: The GMG essential collection: a desert island briefcaseful
« Reply #179 on: September 07, 2010, 10:18:00 AM »
The list cries without a Verdi opera :(

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