It's very irritating when this happens...

Started by The Mad Hatter, June 23, 2007, 12:24:02 AM

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The Mad Hatter

I bought this edition of Glenn Gould playing Brahms:


And then I discovered that the Glenn Gould Edition has released the same CD, but with the Rhapsodies as well.


Much as I love Glenn Gould in general, and that CD in particular, I don't think I can afford the price of a new CD for the sake of two pieces, when I already have a copy of everything else...

stingo

Ah the fine art of double dipping - gotta hand it to the record companies, they really know how to rake it in.

knight66

I am very easily confused, just change the cover and I am left in doubt.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

PSmith08

Quote from: stingo on June 23, 2007, 12:30:59 AM
Ah the fine art of double dipping - gotta hand it to the record companies, they really know how to rake it in.

I'm always amazed how many times record companies repackage the same stuff. For example, Karajan's 1977 Beethoven 9th: 1977 integrale, Galleria release, "Karajan Forever" set, SACD standalone, and now the "Grand Prix" series. That's a lot of separate releases of the second-most-famous Beethoven 9th recording he did for DGG.

The competing Gould editions are infuriating, though. Sony figured out how to play the "public" with that mess.

Que

In many ways, the first Glen Gould Edition on CD (with the white covers still offers the best deal.
It's annoying for instance that later issues are on seperate single CD's, while the "white" edition has complete sets for the Bach Partitas, English and French Suites, etc.

And I suspect sound is the same, since it all was remastered for the first edition.

Q

M forever

It can get much more irritating, but for different reasons.

Like recently, I bought this recording of Wand conducting Bruckner 6:





Then I discovered I already had this recording of Wand conducting Bruckner 6:




And that's not the first time! I mean, not with this disc, but I have a few more which I bought even though I already had them. There is no cure really for senility, but your problem can be remedied by doing some online research before buying.

PSmith08

#6
Quote from: Que on June 23, 2007, 02:20:16 AM
In many ways, the first Glen Gould Edition on CD (with the white covers still offers the best deal.
It's annoying for instance that later issues are on seperate single CD's, while the "white" edition has complete sets for the Bach Partitas, English and French Suites, etc.

And I suspect sound is the same, since it all was remastered for the first edition.

Q

With this statement I would concur. There are some Glenn Gould Edition (i.e., the white ones) sets that aren't out on the (I suppose) original jackets edition, like Gould's live Salzburg performance of Goldberg Variations (1959), which is my favorite version.

knight66

My worst problem is looking at Bach Cantata discs, nothing really to do with the packaging, I simply cannot recall the numbers of most of the ones I have beyond the most famous. I used to carry a sheet with me that had all the numbers of the cantatas I own....but I have not been keeping it up to date.

Mike
DavidW: Yeah Mike doesn't get angry, he gets even.
I wasted time: and time wasted me.

XB-70 Valkyrie

#8
Save your money. Gould recorded some of the worst Brahms I've ever heard. Go buy the Kempff GPOC, anything by Solomon on Testament, or Katchen's box on Decca! Seriously, Gould's Bach was interesting (but ultimately he is outclassed by people like Weissenberg, Lipatti, etc.) but his Brahms is horrible.

And in terms of marketing gimmicks, Gould is very high on the list--right up there with Yo Yo Ma, and any number of scantily-clad babes...
If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

Heather Harrison

Quote from: M forever on June 23, 2007, 02:29:34 AM
It can get much more irritating, but for different reasons.

Like recently, I bought this recording of Wand conducting Bruckner 6:





Then I discovered I already had this recording of Wand conducting Bruckner 6:




And that's not the first time! I mean, not with this disc, but I have a few more which I bought even though I already had them. There is no cure really for senility, but your problem can be remedied by doing some online research before buying.


I have done this sort of thing a few times; it is quite irritating.  Inevitably, I don't seem to discover it until long after I have bought the CD.  I suppose when ones collection reaches into the thousands, this is bound to happen every now and then.  When it happens, I give the duplicates to friends who I think would benefit from exposure to whatever it is that I bought twice.

I also find the phenomenon of repackaging with slight variations annoying.  This isn't even confined to classical music; I have encountered it in other genres, such as "world music".

Heather

stingo

Quote from: Heather Harrison on June 23, 2007, 07:30:25 AMI also find the phenomenon of repackaging with slight variations annoying.  This isn't even confined to classical music; I have encountered it in other genres, such as "world music".

Not to mention DVD's...

The Mad Hatter

Quote from: Que on June 23, 2007, 02:20:16 AM
In many ways, the first Glen Gould Edition on CD (with the white covers still offers the best deal.
It's annoying for instance that later issues are on seperate single CD's, while the "white" edition has complete sets for the Bach Partitas, English and French Suites, etc.

And I suspect sound is the same, since it all was remastered for the first edition.

Q

As they both feature the same music, but the white one contains two extra pieces, I expect you're right :D

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on June 23, 2007, 03:23:33 AM
Save your money. Gould recorded some of the worst Brahms I've ever heard. Go buy the Kempff GPOC, anything by Solomon on Testament, or Katchen's box on Decca! Seriously, Gould's Bach was interesting (but ultimately he is outclassed by people like Weissenberg, Lipatti, etc.) but his Brahms is horrible.

And in terms of marketing gimmicks, Gould is very high on the list--right up there with Yo Yo Ma, and any number of scantily-clad babes...

Actually, I love his Brahms - the ballades and intermezzos are so deeply introverted and personal, I almost wept.

Que

Quote from: The Mad Hatter on June 23, 2007, 09:17:23 AM
Actually, I love his Brahms - the ballades and intermezzos are so deeply introverted and personal, I almost wept.

Opinions on Gould's Brahms seem sharply divided.
Like you, I think it's ab-so-lute-ly gorgeous. :)

Q

Marc

Quote from: stingo on June 23, 2007, 12:30:59 AM
Ah the fine art of double dipping - gotta hand it to the record companies, they really know how to rake it in.

Ah, record companies.
>:(

And after all that double dipping they ask: why on earth is everybody downloading?
::)


The Mad Hatter

Quote from: Marc on June 23, 2007, 09:44:05 AM
Ah, record companies.
>:(

And after all that double dipping they ask: why on earth is everybody downloading?
::)



Hehe. Yes, it is very tempting in this instance...

Steve