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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2013, 04:19:49 AM »
Actually, I've been curious to visit those, so thanks, Greg  :)
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2013, 04:23:23 AM »
Actually, I've been curious to visit those, so thanks, Greg  :)

I really like them, Karl. A bit more jarring, more unexpected than Burana. But it's in pieces like these that I find Orff to be in top form.


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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2013, 05:19:26 AM »
On the whole, I think: none.

Over the years, I have participated in two performances of the piece, and sat in the audience for a third. I find it one of those works which is exciting to take part in, but it strikes me as rather indifferent as a piece to listen to.  Now, I am open to that reflection being changed, if I find The Right Recording, e.g., however, I don't know that it is reasonable to expect any recording to rival the rich experience of being in the orchestra (or in the chorus) as one of the executants of the piece.

YMMV, of course; I am not asserting this as the way it should be for anyone else on the planet  0:)

This is why I like the Blomstedt recording. It is lighter and nimbler. Several of the solos have an ethereal nature (in the way it is done). I find this really adds to my enjoyment. I also find it quite transparent, so I can really hear the parts well. I find it wears well on repeated listenings too.
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2013, 05:24:19 AM »
Thanks for the suggestion, Neal!
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« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2013, 05:26:15 AM »
On the whole, I think: none.

Over the years, I have participated in two performances of the piece, and sat in the audience for a third. I find it one of those works which is exciting to take part in, but it strikes me as rather indifferent as a piece to listen to.  Now, I am open to that reflection being changed, if I find The Right Recording, e.g., however, I don't know that it is reasonable to expect any recording to rival the rich experience of being in the orchestra (or in the chorus) as one of the executants of the piece.

YMMV, of course; I am not asserting this as the way it should be for anyone else on the planet  0:)


Maybe it should only be performed without an audience.

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2013, 05:26:41 AM »
Or with zombies!
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2013, 05:34:16 AM »
Zombina burana!
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2013, 06:01:40 AM »
I just came across this: a 10 CD set for c. $20. ( ???) with 2 versions of the Carmina Burana, plus Orff's more experimental and percussive works, along with two later operas which hearken back to the Carmina Burana style, Der Mond and Die Kluge (The Moon and The Wise Woman).

Sounds like a deal!

http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Orff-Lindermeier-Schwarzkopf-Graham-Hall/dp/B006FZG8S2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_4

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2013, 06:03:14 AM »
Most interesting, Cato.
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2013, 06:06:44 AM »
I just came across this: a 10 CD set for c. $20. ( ???) with 2 versions of the Carmina Burana, plus Orff's more experimental and percussive works, along with two later operas which hearken back to the Carmina Burana style, Der Mond and Die Kluge (The Moon and The Wise Woman).

Sounds like a deal!

http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Orff-Lindermeier-Schwarzkopf-Graham-Hall/dp/B006FZG8S2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_4

For some reason the ASIN will not work!

That might be orfferdoing it a bit.  ;)

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2013, 06:25:52 AM »
I just came across this: a 10 CD set for c. $20. ( ???) with 2 versions of the Carmina Burana, plus Orff's more experimental and percussive works, along with two later operas which hearken back to the Carmina Burana style, Der Mond and Die Kluge (The Moon and The Wise Woman).

Sounds like a deal!

http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Orff-Lindermeier-Schwarzkopf-Graham-Hall/dp/B006FZG8S2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_m_4

For some reason the ASIN will not work!

Great set! I have that Der Mond with Sawallisch that's included there, and it's wonderful.

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #92 on: July 03, 2013, 10:13:42 AM »
You say Carmina
I say Burana
Carmina
Burana
Carmina
Burana
Lets call the whole thing Orff

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #93 on: July 03, 2013, 10:28:11 AM »
You say Carmina
I say Burana
Carmina
Burana
Carmina
Burana
Lets call the whole thing Orff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwrgAnx6Q8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That might be orfferdoing it a bit.  ;)

Okay, these jokes are just...Orfful!   ???
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2013, 02:41:12 PM »
On the whole, I think: none.

Over the years, I have participated in two performances of the piece, and sat in the audience for a third. I find it one of those works which is exciting to take part in, but it strikes me as rather indifferent as a piece to listen to.  Now, I am open to that reflection being changed, if I find The Right Recording, e.g., however, I don't know that it is reasonable to expect any recording to rival the rich experience of being in the orchestra (or in the chorus) as one of the executants of the piece.

YMMV, of course; I am not asserting this as the way it should be for anyone else on the planet  0:)


That matches my experience. I have been in two performances and some excerpts. In the excerpts, I did some of the baritone solos (they couldn't find a soprano or tenor who wanted to do the solos, but I volunteered for the baritone solos). All those high Gs in the Estuans interius were at the time just about at the limit of my useful range, so it was quite tiring to rehearse it-my voice has gone up a little in my old age so I could do it more easily now than 30 years ago. But it's great fun to do, and the choruses aren't all that difficult vocally.  I don't really enjoy recordings of it and don't think I would find it that great to hear from the audience, either, except for the spectacle.  But lots of people enjoy it!

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #95 on: July 04, 2013, 10:28:00 PM »
North Star, it is the most exciting and best sounding to me.  I've had various recordings of the work since the 60's.  Many other good ones are out there, though  :)
Thanks! I like it very well myself, too, but also agree with Karl's sentiment - this work would definitely be more exciting live.
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #96 on: July 08, 2013, 03:43:44 PM »
On the whole, I think: none.

Over the years, I have participated in two performances of the piece, and sat in the audience for a third. I find it one of those works which is exciting to take part in, but it strikes me as rather indifferent as a piece to listen to.  Now, I am open to that reflection being changed, if I find The Right Recording, e.g., however, I don't know that it is reasonable to expect any recording to rival the rich experience of being in the orchestra (or in the chorus) as one of the executants of the piece.

YMMV, of course; I am not asserting this as the way it should be for anyone else on the planet  0:)

I feel that way about a number of pieces, Karl.  In fact, as an oboist I often think I have the ideal "listening" seat!  Complete surround sound because I'm literally in the middle.  And as focused as I have to be when performing, there's no chance I'll miss much if I can hear it at all!  (Ironically, the only group of players I have consistent trouble hearing is the first violins! :o)
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2013, 11:53:04 PM »
I bought the Jochum based on a recommendation here and to be honest I was decidedly underwhelmed.

Whether or not my taste was ruined by years of listening to the Old Spice advert I don't know, but this versions seemed a little wishy-washy to me and I'd prefer far more punch.
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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2013, 05:42:13 AM »
Oh, I just tripped over 'O Fortuna' whilst searching for music the Band could play. WOW! It's just got the perfect driving rhythm and familiarity that would fit so purrrfectly in this particular spot.

It's also very easy to play on guitar and sounds just right as a heavy guitar piece...

dah dah, dih dih

dah dah, dih dih

dah dah dah daaaah daaaah dih dih

...with that pulsating tonic-fifth underneath (bom-bi bom-bi bom-bi bom-bi)

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Re: Carmina Burana by Carl Orff
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2013, 09:14:04 AM »
Okay, these jokes are just...Orfful!   ???
Get Orff my Bach! ;D
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