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Operatic characters sent into exile
« on: October 16, 2010, 09:21:30 AM »
For a personal project, I am looking for the name of any operatic characters (preferably female) who are sent into exile as part of the plot. Nothing obscure, please, as that would defeat the purpose. Eboli from Don Carlo or Puccini's Manon might do, but can you think of any others?

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 09:57:04 AM »
Katerina Izmailova (internal exile to prison in Siberia)

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 10:26:07 AM »
Katerina Izmailova (internal exile to prison in Siberia)

Thanks. A little off the standard Verdi-Puccini-Wagner mainstream for my needs, but a possibility.
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 10:47:38 AM »
Is Monteverdi in the mix? In Poppea, Drusilla and Ottone are sent into exile...

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 11:01:48 AM »
Is Monteverdi in the mix? In Poppea, Drusilla and Ottone are sent into exile...

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Again, a little too off the beaten path, and that's two characters. So far, Eboli and Manon seem my best bets. Thanks.
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2010, 02:42:11 PM »
For a personal project, I am looking for the name of any operatic characters (preferably female) who are sent into exile as part of the plot. Nothing obscure, please, as that would defeat the purpose. Eboli from Don Carlo or Puccini's Manon might do, but can you think of any others?

Thanks.

The Queen of the Night at the end of Zauberflote?

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2010, 05:26:26 PM »
I think I might need some help with this but in Macbeth doesn't the army go away and camouflage themselves until Birnum Wood comes to______?

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 05:29:55 PM »
Malcolm does willingly quit Scotland for safety's sake, 'tis true.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 05:31:53 PM »
How about Carmen?  For misbehaving she is to be imprisoned which merely gave her some time to work out her escape in privacy with the soldier's help.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2010, 07:34:51 PM »
In Turandot, Calaf, Timur and Liu are already in exile at the start of the opera.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2010, 08:19:51 PM »
How about Carmen?  For misbehaving she is to be imprisoned which merely gave her some time to work out her escape in privacy with the soldier's help.

Of course the problem with using Carmen is that she never really gets exiled.

I do appreciate everyone's help. So far I think Eboli remains closest to what I need. The fact that she is cut off permanently from her Queen is just the shading I want.
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 05:19:37 AM »
Is Monteverdi in the mix? In Poppea, Drusilla and Ottone are sent into exile...

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And what about Ottavia in the same opera?  She was the first one that came to mind when I saw this thread title. Her farewell to Rome is one of the highlights of the score.
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 08:51:37 AM »
Anaes in part 2 of The Trojans enters Carthage as an exile from Troy. Perhaps he is really a refugee. Ditto I suppose for Donizetti's Maria Stuarda.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 08:44:03 PM »
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 07:51:20 AM »
  In Verdi's rarely performed early opera I Due Foscari, the son of the Doge of Venice is sent into exile on trumped up charges by his enemies,leading ultimately to his death,and that of his father from grief. Not exactly a feel good opera, but a powerful one.
  There's an excellent Philips recording conducted by the late Lamberto Gardelli,who did so much to champion neglected Italian operas,but I'm not sure if it's still available. Check arkivmusic.com,the best website for hard to find classical recordings. And their overall selection of classical CDs and DVDs is amazing. No classical CD and DVD collector should miss it.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 09:23:37 AM »
  In Verdi's rarely performed early opera I Due Foscari, the son of the Doge of Venice is sent into exile on trumped up charges by his enemies,leading ultimately to his death,and that of his father from grief. Not exactly a feel good opera, but a powerful one.
  There's an excellent Philips recording conducted by the late Lamberto Gardelli,who did so much to champion neglected Italian operas,but I'm not sure if it's still available. Check arkivmusic.com,the best website for hard to find classical recordings. And their overall selection of classical CDs and DVDs is amazing. No classical CD and DVD collector should miss it.

These are wonderful studio recordings.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 10:34:13 AM »
What is this shady project? My completely arbitrary guess, only because I am also participating is - NaNoWriMo.
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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2010, 10:15:49 AM »
Thanks. A little off the standard Verdi-Puccini-Wagner mainstream for my needs, but a possibility.

Isn't the obvious one Bruenhilde -- sent into exile away from Valhalla by her father?



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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2010, 12:24:23 PM »
Puccini's Manon

Also, Massenet's Manon, same character.

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Re: Operatic characters sent into exile
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2010, 05:07:17 AM »
Also, Massenet's Manon, same character.

I know. But being exiled to a desert in Louisiana somehow sounds better than - well, wherever Massenet's heroine was sent. Brünnhilde is a good idea too. Actually Parsifal, exiled to wander for an entire intermission between Acts 2-3, might work as well.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
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