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Antoine Marchand

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 08:34:36 PM »



Forgot this one. And I second the Horowitz with Barbirolli and the Moiseiwitsch that Drasko recommended.

Just that one, George? What about your favorite piano concertos with Mikhail Rudy/Jansons?  :)

Personally, I would also include Earl Wild/Heifetz (Chandos or Chesky) and Rafael Orozco/De Waart playing the same concertos (Philips).

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 04:11:02 AM »
Just that one, George?

I am trying to narrow things down for Bill and I have already posted a number of suggestions earlier.

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2011, 05:25:13 AM »
Personally, I would also include Earl Wild/Heifetz (Chandos or Chesky)
Heifetz?  ;)

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 05:46:23 AM »
Heifetz?  ;)

Sure. If Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau could conduct, why not Jascha?
Actually, he meant Horenstein, of course. I'd put that set in there, as well...preferably on Chesky. I have a copy of the Chandos, but I think the Chesky transfers sound better. OTOH, my original Readers Digest box set of LPs (early pressings) still sound stupendous to my ears--and that remains my favorite way of hearing these.

I bought the Rudy a few years back when everyone was gushing over it. Sorry. After two run-throughs, it didn't really do much for me; I suppose it's time to revisit. Until I do, I'll stick with Wild and Janis as concerto mainstays in stereo, and supplement with some historical (Kapell, Horowitz, et al) and a few more recent pianists (Richter, others) when I'm in the mood.

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Dirk

Antoine Marchand

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2011, 06:36:51 AM »
Heifetz?  ;)

Note to myself: It's not a good idea to write at two o'clock in the morning!  :D

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2011, 07:09:53 AM »
I bought the Rudy a few years back when everyone was gushing over it. Sorry. After two run-throughs, it didn't really do much for me; I suppose it's time to revisit. Until I do, I'll stick with Wild and Janis as concerto mainstays in stereo, and supplement with some historical (Kapell, Horowitz, et al) and a few more recent pianists (Richter, others) when I'm in the mood.

Cheers,

Dirk

Rudy is the yin to Janis/Wild/Horowitz/Richter's yang. While I enjoy the set and love the sonics, I don't consider it a must-buy. 

Antoine Marchand

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2011, 07:16:55 AM »
Rudy is the yin to Janis/Wild/Horowitz/Richter's yang. While I enjoy the set and love the sonics, I don't consider it a must-buy.

Well, I'm a bit puzzled now, George:

It's been awhile since I have heard the Previn (mostly because I didn't really like it), so all I can say is that I like this one more, though by no means would he be a first pick for a set of the concertos. Rudy/Jansons remain my favorite for a set of these works. They are available at budget price on EMI and Brilliant Classics.

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2011, 08:33:55 AM »
Well, I'm a bit puzzled now, George:

"My favorite" can be different from "must-have". Michele Boegner's are my favorite Chopin nocturnes, yet I don't consider them a must-have set; the Rach preludes by Eldar Nebolsin and Steven Osborne are cycles I'd never remove from my collection but they aren't must-haves; even more paradoxically, Mustonen's Sibelius Third Symphony is something I'd call a must-hear-once but not must-have!

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2011, 08:47:31 AM »
The Byron Janis performance of Rachmaninov's   Third Piano Concerto (on RCA, if you can find it) is another must have!  The first movement cadenza in his hands is something to behold and contemplate!
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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2011, 08:52:37 AM »
"My favorite" can be different from "must-have". Michele Boegner's are my favorite Chopin nocturnes, yet I don't consider them a must-have set; the Rach preludes by Eldar Nebolsin and Steven Osborne are cycles I'd never remove from my collection but they aren't must-haves; even more paradoxically, Mustonen's Sibelius Third Symphony is something I'd call a must-hear-once but not must-have!

Yes, Brian, from the perspective of an uncompromising and aseptic objectivity, you could have reason; I mean if that kind of objectivity were possible or even desirable...

Additionally, when you have listened to a lot of recordings of the same music (which is the case of George here), I immediately translate "my favorite" as if it had been said "a must-have" which is probably wrong... Anyway, I have and have listened to that set and it's not one of my favorites, just in case.  :)

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 09:27:45 AM »
Well, I'm a bit puzzled now, George:

I don't know why you're puzzled. A set of the Rachmaninoff piano concertos is not a must buy, IMO. Especially when my favorite for 1, 2 and 3 are not part of a set.

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2011, 10:12:33 AM »
I don't know why you're puzzled. A set of the Rachmaninoff piano concertos is not a must buy, IMO. Especially when my favorite for 1, 2 and 3 are not part of a set.

Right, but the your posts quoted by me were not about single concertos, but about complete sets. The first one says Rudin/Jansons is your favorite complete set and the second "suggests" another thing... nothing too much important, anyway.  :)


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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2011, 12:12:21 PM »
Right, but the your posts quoted by me were not about single concertos, but about complete sets.

This thread is about must have recordings. I don't think the Rudy/Jansons set of the complete concertos are a must have. As good as Rudy's set is, I think Janis and Richter (in individual performances) are better.

The quote you gave (from another thread) that you thought contradicted this actually doesn't contradict it.

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The first one says Rudin/Jansons is your favorite complete set and the second "suggests" another thing... nothing too much important, anyway.  :)

Rudy/Jansons remains my favorite set. I don't consider it a must have. I have posted my must haves (none of them are concerto sets) in this thread.

I hope that clears things up. :)
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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »
After so many wonderful Rach interpreters I feel I should also mention Sofronitsky. He didn’t record much but for me the Rachmaninov pieces he gave us are beautiful and, as I always expect from this immense artist, deeply expressive. Almost “poetical” for the colors and nuances he brings in every phrase. 

Currently, the most easily available Sofronitsky-Rachmaninov in CD is probably in the Brillant box and in Vista Vera. But there are other editions with random Rach pieces from Melodiya, Denon, Classound, Arlecchino, Living Stage, etc.


                                                     
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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2011, 01:36:57 PM »
Aparrt from the very popular concertos 2 &3 , the discography of Rachmaninov's piano works is surprisingly small. What I mean is that not so many complete recordings, for instance, of his wonderful Preludes exist by great pianists such as Perahia and Argerich.

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2011, 04:32:19 PM »
Rach Sym 2 Kurt Sanderling on DG (cut version) but passionate interpretation. Also, Earl Wild in PC 2 - wow!

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2011, 04:54:43 PM »



I very much enjoy this set. (And I was able to get mine signed when Hough played in Philadelphia!)

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2011, 07:55:29 PM »
For historical, some of you may enjoy this one....giving it a spin as I type.  Kapell gets after it, for sure.



For those that are interested, this is from 1948....has some quite a few sound issues (scratchy at points), but I am guessing it is the best there is as Ward Martson was at the helm of this VAI release.
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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2011, 11:44:36 AM »


Just spun this one. Bill, you gotta get it!! :)

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Re: Rachmaninoff: The Must Have Recordings
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2011, 02:17:04 PM »



I very much enjoy this set.
Me, too! 
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