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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #560 on: September 18, 2011, 08:27:52 AM »
Oooh, nobody tell the Classicsonline webmaster...

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« Reply #561 on: September 18, 2011, 10:42:02 PM »
^ Wow, fascinating view "backstage"!

Reminds me of a cheapo DVD I bought once, with a back blurb which was essentially a cut-and-pasted less-than-favourable review of the movie.
 

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« Reply #562 on: September 21, 2011, 11:04:59 AM »
Toccata Classics' releases are looking more and more interesting each new update. They make Naxos look downright uncreative in their repertoire choices ;)

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« Reply #563 on: September 21, 2011, 11:25:13 AM »
Toccata Classics' releases are looking more and more interesting each new update. They make Naxos look downright uncreative in their repertoire choices ;)

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« Reply #564 on: September 23, 2011, 08:19:38 AM »
Via a Gramophone newsletter:

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To celebrate 10 years of The Sixteen’s lively and successful record label, CORO, and to mark the launch of our new downloads site www.thesixteendigital.com we are delighted to offer you a FREE download of one of our most popular CDs - Venetian Treasures - featuring glorious Italian choral music.

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« Reply #565 on: October 11, 2011, 07:29:32 PM »
Does PrestoClassical have a wishlist function of any sort.

And, while I'm at it, any sort of order tracking on their website?

I'm not able to find those, and I don't know if my limited web-fu is to blame, or their site simply don't offer those.

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« Reply #566 on: October 11, 2011, 07:35:24 PM »
Does PrestoClassical have a wishlist function of any sort.

I don't think so.

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And, while I'm at it, any sort of order tracking on their website?

I don't think so. I just ordered something form them last week and got an email notification, but no tracking info. I visited their website and there doesn't seem to be any evidence of my order (or my account) there. I guess they don't store any info. 
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #567 on: October 12, 2011, 03:27:38 AM »
Does PrestoClassical have a wishlist function of any sort.

It's all cookie-based. You can add items to your basket and and as long as you don't delete the pertinent cookies from that browser, the stuff in the basket stays until you check them out (again, as viewed from the browser from which they were added).

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And, while I'm at it, any sort of order tracking on their website?

I'm not able to find those, and I don't know if my limited web-fu is to blame, or their site simply don't offer those.

You can't create an account with them, so how do you expect them to let you track your orders at their website? For convenience, I archive my order confirmation and dispatch e-mails at my end.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #568 on: October 12, 2011, 06:08:22 AM »
Thought that a quote from an email message I just received would be of interest - I ordered the 8-CD box of Sequentia doing the music of Hildegard von Bingen - came w/ no booklet(s) at all which is difficult w/ this type of music (already owned 3 of these recordings w/ booklets - indispensable to understanding the music); now this group has a website HERE, and I contacted them out of curiosity; actually my contact there wrote Sony and got the response below - I guess that to supply the customer written information whether in a booklet and/or online as PDF files revolves around the expected contenders!  No great surprise, I guess -  :-\

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Dear Dave,

here is the answer I received from SONY 'strategic marketing' in response to my question:

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The boxed sets within the MASTERS series are special offers in limited editions.
The music lover gets the chance to buy a repertoire cycle for the price of 1-2 high price CDs.
I think it wouldn’t be wise to distribute comprehensive booklets (and only the booklets)
online as they represent the one and only selling point of all high and mid price CD albums which are on sale.
Furthermore digital booklets are very sought after to complete illegal downloads.
 
I think we should investigate if we can set up deluxe editions comprising music + pdf on iTunes.
Then the consumers can download their book with the music they have purchased.
This makes not always economically sense, especially when physical product is still available on amazon for example.
In many cases it is cheaper for a consumer to buy a real CD with booklet than downloading it on iTunes.
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That's how it will remain, I think. If they can think up a way to make money out of booklets, they'll do something about it.
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« Reply #569 on: October 12, 2011, 06:41:45 AM »
It's all cookie-based. You can add items to your basket and and as long as you don't delete the pertinent cookies from that browser, the stuff in the basket stays until you check them out (again, as viewed from the browser from which they were added).
Wouldn't work for me.  To clarify with a concrete example:  I have two Amazon wishlists.  One of them has about thirty five items on it, and consists of the items I'll probably be ordering in the near future.  The other has about 250 items, some of stuff I intend to order but not very soon; some of it stuff I sort of want, but may never order, and meanwhile want a convenient place to keep track of; some of it recordings I simply want to remind myself about; and some I will order if the price ever goes down to a level I can live with.  My wishlist with Arkivmusic is much smaller but similar.  When I order from them, I pick out what I want, but I never order the entire wishlist.

It's not necessarily a problem when they have a sale on a specific label or group of recordings, because they keep those together on one page.  But they now have a sale on most of their box sets, and you have to hunt through different pages to track down each individual box set.  Which is a pain because I will need to do it twice for whatever I order--once to get the price so I can comparison shop, and then again to actually order whatever I end up ordering from them.  At the moment I have a list on paper sitting by my computer--and since I plan on ordering a bunch of Gardiner's Bach cantatas (I have enough of that cycle already to know I want the rest) before I order any of those box sets, I can't resort to your method.

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You can't create an account with them, so how do you expect them to let you track your orders at their website? For convenience, I archive my order confirmation and dispatch e-mails at my end.

Every email I get concerning an order stays in my inbox until I get the items, and then is archived, so that's no problem.  But other sites (Arkivmusic, for example) have a setup by which you can track the individual order with the order number and your email address without creating an overall account, so I think Presto could do it.

But thank you for at least confirming that it wasn't simply me not seeing something painfully obvious.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #570 on: October 12, 2011, 07:22:11 AM »
It's not necessarily a problem when they have a sale on a specific label or group of recordings, because they keep those together on one page.  But they now have a sale on most of their box sets, and you have to hunt through different pages to track down each individual box set.

They have a separate section for the boxes as well with search filters.

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  Which is a pain because I will need to do it twice for whatever I order--once to get the price so I can comparison shop, and then again to actually order whatever I end up ordering from them.  At the moment I have a list on paper sitting by my computer--and since I plan on ordering a bunch of Gardiner's Bach cantatas (I have enough of that cycle already to know I want the rest) before I order any of those box sets, I can't resort to your method.

I would suggest adding your list to Presto's basket, then once you have compared the prices, change the quantity to 0 for whichever boxes you don't want, update and then check out. That's the easiest way I can see.

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Every email I get concerning an order stays in my inbox until I get the items, and then is archived, so that's no problem.  But other sites (Arkivmusic, for example) have a setup by which you can track the individual order with the order number and your email address without creating an overall account, so I think Presto could do it.

I too have a bunch of website suggestions that I must email them someday. Not being a frequent buyer though, permanent accounts isn't a priority for me. :)

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But thank you for at least confirming that it wasn't simply me not seeing something painfully obvious.

 :) You're welcome.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #571 on: November 23, 2011, 06:42:41 AM »
Dear Amazon,
                  What's the point of offering me free MP3 downloads after I purchase something from your store, if I can't buy them because of stupid copyright restrictions? >:(

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« Reply #572 on: November 23, 2011, 06:49:45 AM »
Dear Amazon,
                  What's the point of offering me free MP3 downloads after I purchase something from your store, if I can't buy them because of stupid copyright restrictions? >:(

Yours Cheated,
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« Reply #573 on: November 23, 2011, 06:57:47 AM »
What pisses me off with amazon is that I've bought tons of CDs from them over the years, still the only promotional credits I get from them are for buying MP3 downloads (which I've never ever have bought). With their systems they ought to know that, and to understand that offers slike these are only irritating. What with offering me credits with relevance to stuff I actually buy?

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« Reply #574 on: November 23, 2011, 07:05:12 AM »
What pisses me off with amazon is that I've bought tons of CDs from them over the years, still the only promotional credits I get from them are for buying MP3 downloads (which I've never ever have bought). With their systems they ought to know that, and to understand that offers slike these are only irritating. What with offering me credits with relevance to stuff I actually buy?

It's a reasonable point of view. I don't even know how to use those credits to purchase MP3 because I'm not interested in such kind of products... And Amazon knows this perfectly well. After all they have a complete record of my purchases and all the time they offer to me things adjusted to that record.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #575 on: November 23, 2011, 07:06:47 AM »
Dear Navneeth,
         Dura lex, sed lex.

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Dear Amazon,
      Now you're trying to communicate with me in a language I don't understand. I at least appreciate your consistency in maintaining disloyalty to your customer.

[Looking for Legalese Translators,]
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #576 on: November 23, 2011, 07:11:26 AM »
What pisses me off with amazon is that I've bought tons of CDs from them over the years, still the only promotional credits I get from them are for buying MP3 downloads (which I've never ever have bought). With their systems they ought to know that, and to understand that offers slike these are only irritating. What with offering me credits with relevance to stuff I actually buy?

What is just as frustrating (to me) is that I have been a customer there since <>2001. I have purchased over 2000 CD's from them, which should be enough to establish at least a vague idea of what my interest is. And yet "Recommendations for You" never hits on anything relevant to my interests. No, sorry, I won't be buying the new "Il Divo" disk, why would you think I would? Because I bought Jacobs' "...Figaro"? I get an average of 30 recommendations a day for things that I can't even remotely see myself buying.

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« Reply #577 on: November 23, 2011, 07:18:41 AM »
I wonder about the definition of classical and get slightly nauseated by what people buy under the impresson of it being classical - Il Divo, Bocelli, Libera (a popular kind of Diapers in Norway), Katherine Jenkins, Rieu,....page after page in the Top Sellers Classical.

Why can't someone invent a separate  category for this kind of stuff?

And any suggestions as to what to call it?

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« Reply #578 on: November 23, 2011, 07:20:15 AM »
Dear Amazon,
      Now you're trying to communicate with me in a language I don't understand. I at least appreciate your consistency in maintaining disloyalty to your customer.

[Looking for Legalese Translators,]
Navneeth

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« Reply #579 on: November 23, 2011, 07:22:37 AM »
I wonder about the definition of classical and get slightly nauseated by what people buy under the impresson of it being classical - Il Divo, Bocelli, Libera (a popular kind of Diapers in Norway), Katherine Jenkins, Rieu,....page after page in the Top Sellers Classical.

Why can't someone invent a separate  category for this kind of stuff?

And any suggestions as to what to call it?

Faux-classical. Fauxical (with the X now back out of its vow of silence).
Non-canon/non-unsung-geniuses Classical
Not-so-serious music
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