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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #580 on: November 23, 2011, 07:23:49 AM »
Crappical?

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #581 on: November 23, 2011, 07:31:52 AM »
I wonder about the definition of classical and get slightly nauseated by what people buy under the impresson of it being classical - Il Divo, Bocelli, Libera (a popular kind of Diapers in Norway), Katherine Jenkins, Rieu,....page after page in the Top Sellers Classical.

Why can't someone invent a separate  category for this kind of stuff?

And any suggestions as to what to call it?

Offal?   >:D

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #582 on: November 23, 2011, 07:33:22 AM »
clASSical
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« Reply #583 on: November 23, 2011, 07:34:39 AM »
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #584 on: November 23, 2011, 08:45:45 AM »
I wonder about the definition of classical and get slightly nauseated by what people buy under the impresson of it being classical - Il Divo, Bocelli, Libera (a popular kind of Diapers in Norway), Katherine Jenkins, Rieu,....page after page in the Top Sellers Classical.

Why can't someone invent a separate  category for this kind of stuff?

And any suggestions as to what to call it?

It used to be called 'easy listening' and covered a multitude of sins.

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« Reply #585 on: November 23, 2011, 09:27:27 AM »
What is just as frustrating (to me) is that I have been a customer there since <>2001. I have purchased over 2000 CD's from them, which should be enough to establish at least a vague idea of what my interest is. And yet "Recommendations for You" never hits on anything relevant to my interests. No, sorry, I won't be buying the new "Il Divo" disk, why would you think I would? Because I bought Jacobs' "...Figaro"? I get an average of 30 recommendations a day for things that I can't even remotely see myself buying.

Relevance. Ha! I like that, Erato. :)

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My understanding is that they base recommendations not on what we buy, but on what we rate. Sp if you haven't spent any time rating stuff, then the recommendations are bound to be poor.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #586 on: November 23, 2011, 10:46:45 AM »
Hi Gurn,

My understanding is that they base recommendations not on what we buy, but on what we rate. Sp if you haven't spent any time rating stuff, then the recommendations are bound to be poor.

Makes sense, but I have rated something like 550 items now (it tells you how many, but I've forgotten the exact number). I guess I need to rate badly the things I don't like, that would carry more weight than rating well the things I DO like. :-\

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #587 on: November 23, 2011, 11:55:23 AM »
I think Amazon knows my tastes fairly well, since they keep suggesting stuff that i've bought elsewhere.  But I am rather tired of the emails offering me less than specatular prices on fauxical music. A Diavolo con il Divo!   But it's still better than the first few ones they sent, which seemed to be based on the premise that buying Mahler recordings indicated a interest in death metal/goth music. 

Of course, I actually buy less from Amazon than any other place--Arkivmusic and Prestoclassical seem to be the prime sources at the moment.   But, while I have two more orders planned with Presto,  I'm going to try to limit myself seriously after next month.  For one thing, I've got a listen to pile of several hundred CDs to get through,  and for another I've caught up on almost all the series I wanted to catch up on when I started online ordering a few months ago.  I won't be totally stopping the purchases, but they'll be rather more targeted and limited than they have been up to now.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #588 on: November 23, 2011, 06:38:46 PM »
What pisses me off with amazon is that I've bought tons of CDs from them over the years, still the only promotional credits I get from them are for buying MP3 downloads (which I've never ever have bought). With their systems they ought to know that, and to understand that offers slike these are only irritating. What with offering me credits with relevance to stuff I actually buy?

You are not alone.  Those MP3 credits are absolutely worthless to me since I do not buy downloads, period ...

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #589 on: December 06, 2011, 08:11:01 PM »
It's a reasonable point of view. I don't even know how to use those credits to purchase MP3 because I'm not interested in such kind of products... And Amazon knows this perfectly well. After all they have a complete record of my purchases and all the time they offer to me things adjusted to that record.

I agree that Amazon's system should be able to provide more incentives to customers who don't want to go down the MP3 route. However, I tend to go with unusual, super-cheap album purchases with these MP3 deals - which, let's face it, either get used or don't. There are several excellent RAGA label CDs of Indian Classical music by the incomparable Nikhil Banerjee, the CDs of which are priced in the standard $10+ range, but for which the MP3 asking price is often just three or four dollars. They're certainly worth checking out.

As for the coupon value, it is automatically added to your account, so MP3 purchases just subtract from that value. Of course, if you buy more MP3s than the credit in your account, you have to pay with your debit/credit card to make up the difference. The system is actually pretty straight-forward.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #590 on: January 07, 2012, 07:04:35 PM »
If you want an early present, Presto are shipping late January for $135, compared to Amazon's $200.

Thanks, Keith. I've never used Presto and I hardly ever buy from overseas. Is Presto a safe website and have you used them?
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« Reply #591 on: January 07, 2012, 07:25:54 PM »
Thanks, Keith. I've never used Presto and I hardly ever buy from overseas. Is Presto a safe website and have you used them?

Absolutely my favorite. I used them when I lived in Australia, and I do so now that I am in the US.  Their website is very secure, and I have never had any problems with transactions.  Their packaging is very high quality, and I have had no problems with damage, unlike Amazon shipments.  I have twice had problems with wrong discs in box sets - one due to EMI and once to Brilliant.  Presto have sent replacements quickly at no cost.

their special offers are often worthwhile, for example 25-30% off sepcific labels or 50% off box sets, and their shipping rates are sensible - a slightly higher price for the first disc - around $3 I think, and then  fixed $1 or so for each subsequent disc.  Box sets count as a single disc.

Highly recommended.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #592 on: January 07, 2012, 07:31:07 PM »
Absolutely my favorite. I used them when I lived in Australia, and I do so now that I am in the US.  Their website is very secure, and I have never had any problems with transactions.  Their packaging is very high quality, and I have had no problems with damage, unlike Amazon shipments.  I have twice had problems with wrong discs in box sets - one due to EMI and once to Brilliant.  Presto have sent replacements quickly at no cost.

their special offers are often worthwhile, for example 25-30% off sepcific labels or 50% off box sets, and their shipping rates are sensible - a slightly higher price for the first disc - around $3 I think, and then  fixed $1 or so for each subsequent disc.  Box sets count as a single disc.

Highly recommended.

Thanks for the information, Keith. This is most helpful. I'll check them out.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #593 on: January 08, 2012, 12:08:47 AM »
And speaking of Presto. I've ordered from them several times in the last few months, and (knock on wood) so far have no problems with them.  I've got two orders en route to me now from them (one of them seems to have gotten delayed in the Christmas rush, but I'm expecting it to land any day now).  The only criticisms I have of their system is that it's not possible to keep a wish list, and no way of keeping track of an order while they are processing it.  Also, you will get charged Visa transactions fees for overseas purchases if that's how your card operates, so that needs to be calculated into the purchase. Shipping charges are like Arkivmusic--order more than a few and it works out to about 1USD per item.   But their sales are often good deals (usually by brand, and lasting a month or more).

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #594 on: January 08, 2012, 12:21:52 AM »
Is Presto a safe website and have you used them?

I can vouch for Presto, as well. Shopped from them many times, not a problem, ever.

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« Reply #595 on: January 08, 2012, 01:11:45 AM »
I can vouch for Presto, as well. Shopped from them many times, not a problem, ever.
Same here - shipped to the US with no problem. They have better prices on some companies, for example Dutton (and that magnifies if they go on sale). They usually have 1-3 new sales added each week, so it pays to drop by periodically.
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« Reply #596 on: January 08, 2012, 05:43:02 AM »
Same here - shipped to the US with no problem. They have better prices on some companies, for example Dutton (and that magnifies if they go on sale). They usually have 1-3 new sales added each week, so it pays to drop by periodically.

Or sign up for their weekly newsletter which advises of new sales, and those about to end, as well as headlines of new releases.

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« Reply #597 on: January 08, 2012, 05:54:40 AM »
+1 for Presto. It was there that I placed my first overseas order online. Despite my low frequency of purchases compared to the average GMGer, they have never let me down in the three or four  years since my first order with them. They're shipping rate has increased somewhat during the time and can get costly if it's a small order, but among the UK e-tailers, they are the only ones to consider a box as a single item*, as Keith already mentioned, which is a plus in my book.


*If there are others, I'd like to know.
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« Reply #598 on: January 08, 2012, 06:29:27 AM »
Navneeth, Amazon's Super Saver delivery is free for orders over £25, and, for normal deliveries, they consider box sets as single items.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200039400


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« Reply #599 on: January 08, 2012, 06:39:34 AM »
Navneeth, Amazon's Super Saver delivery is free for orders over £25, and, for normal deliveries, they consider box sets as single items.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200039400

Thanks. I had those specialist places in mind, but yes that's another UK seller who in the past year, due to their Free Shipping offer and some good discounts, has become my first choice for 'classical' purchases. :)
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