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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #840 on: March 05, 2013, 02:40:29 AM »
I've stumbled through a few of the latter pages of this thread, and it seems that almost without exception there are three outlets that everyone uses:

Presto
MDT
Amazon

That about right?
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #841 on: March 05, 2013, 04:05:32 AM »
At least quite a lot of us Europeans. Add europadisc.co.uk for my part.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #842 on: March 05, 2013, 04:11:36 AM »
I just made my first order from JPC.de.  They have a flat shipping rate of 5.99 EUR, so I guess it is more advantageous for large boxsets and multiple-item orders.

By the way, I ordered this:


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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #843 on: March 05, 2013, 05:43:19 AM »
Their shipping is 28 Euros to South Africa for say, five CDs.

Presto are 8 EUROS for the same...
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #844 on: March 05, 2013, 05:21:59 PM »
I just made my first order from JPC.de.  They have a flat shipping rate of 5.99 EUR, so I guess it is more advantageous for large boxsets and multiple-item orders.

By the way, I ordered this:



You are practically next doors to jpc.  It costs some 13 Euro in shipping to get an order from jpc to the US.  I have placed only 2 orders over the past two years.  I was offered a 20% discount coupon by jpc over the last Christmas but decided against any purchase.  I bought from MDT and Presto Classical for Christmas instead.


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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #846 on: April 05, 2013, 10:28:42 PM »
article in The Guardian re amazon and merchant sellers is a bit long to copy and post here, if interested  go to http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/apr/05/love-amazon-hate-necessary-evil
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #847 on: April 06, 2013, 09:05:53 AM »
article in The Guardian re amazon and merchant sellers is a bit long to copy and post here, if interested  go to http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/apr/05/love-amazon-hate-necessary-evil

A good friend of mine left his corporate job some ten years ago to become a trader on eBay - buying and selling coins and precious metals and does a few hundred transactions every two weeks or so out of his Manhattan co-op apartment.  He has done just fine.  As he puts it, who needs the corporate BS.  Most American companies have not been nice to their employees - the relentless offshoring and trying to squeeze as much out of their American employees ...

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #848 on: April 06, 2013, 10:23:08 AM »
I accepted the subject's concern that if Amazon toss him out he's up the proverbial creek, but juxtapose that with the fact that he's moved several times into successively bigger houses and added a Ferrari to the stable, and you get balance...!  ;) ;D
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #849 on: April 06, 2013, 10:29:44 AM »
I accepted the subject's concern that if Amazon toss him out he's up the proverbial creek, but juxtapose that with the fact that he's moved several times into successively bigger house and added a Ferrari to the stable, and you get balance...!  ;) ;D

This man is a cry baby and he needs to grow up.  Amazon is no different than any other business, it is there to make a profit ...

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #850 on: April 06, 2013, 10:34:22 AM »
Well, sometimes all an entrepreneur needs is a swift kick up the $%@#...

In many cases, it's an unwelcome loss of job but either way you hit bottom quickly and then the direction you travel is up to you...

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #851 on: April 08, 2013, 12:57:53 AM »
Amazon is no different than any other business, it is there to make a profit ...

I wonder. Alternatively, one could suggest that the primary purpose of Amazon, like that of any merchant, is to supply goods (and yes, in the course of doing that, make a profit, but the profit merely ensures that it continues to fulfill its role as a merchant). It seems to be a matter of perception - like half full and half empty bottles.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #852 on: April 08, 2013, 02:39:42 AM »
I wonder. Alternatively, one could suggest that the primary purpose of Amazon, like that of any merchant, is to supply goods (and yes, in the course of doing that, make a profit, but the profit merely ensures that it continues to fulfill its role as a merchant). It seems to be a matter of perception - like half full and half empty bottles.

Exactly.

Reminds me of a chap here in the Financial District who was a guest speaker in a class one evening, who on that occasion offered the (admittedly leading) question, "Can you give me an example of a transaction in which neither party is exploited?"

A leading question, because it provoked the tendentious, one-sided view of the matter.  Thus, none of the students could come up with such an example (which was, as I say, his game). So he offered: "How about a dinner at a restaurant?"
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #853 on: April 08, 2013, 06:10:12 AM »
I've stumbled through a few of the latter pages of this thread, and it seems that almost without exception there are three outlets that everyone uses:

Presto
MDT
Amazon

That about right?

You've now heard about jpc, also used by many if not most. Add Berkshire Record Outlet (BRO) to the list as a valuable source of cutouts and overstocks.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #854 on: April 08, 2013, 06:40:35 AM »
Exactly.

Reminds me of a chap here in the Financial District who was a guest speaker in a class one evening, who on that occasion offered the (admittedly leading) question, "Can you give me an example of a transaction in which neither party is exploited?"

A leading question, because it provoked the tendentious, one-sided view of the matter.  Thus, none of the students could come up with such an example (which was, as I say, his game). So he offered: "How about a dinner at a restaurant?"


That's a dazzlingly brilliant question, isn't it? And I love the way his answer can be construed as an invitation.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #855 on: April 08, 2013, 06:48:59 AM »
That's a dazzlingly brilliant question, isn't it? And I love the way his answer can be construed as an invitation.

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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #856 on: April 08, 2013, 07:23:40 AM »
I've stumbled through a few of the latter pages of this thread, and it seems that almost without exception there are three outlets that everyone uses:

Presto
MDT
Amazon

That about right?

DavidRoss has already mentioned Berkshire Record Outlet, a great resource for deleted and overstocks.

I'd add

Amazon marketplace - I almost never buy from amazon-proper, which is way expensive.  Almost always from a "marketplace seller,"  which includes i-Deals, Classical Music Superstore (Naxos America) Movie-Mars, importcds, as well as individuals selling their used stuff.  I'm also partial to Zoverstocks, a marketplace seller based in the UK.  It tends to be slow, but "very good" used stuff from them is almost always "like new."  Once an item didn't arrive, and they apologized and refunded with no reluctance, even though the fault was likely with the postal service.

arkivmusic.com - their prices are typically not the lowest but they have a great drill-down search method.  You select a composer, and it shows you a list of genres, you select a genre and it shows you a list of works, you select a work and it shows you a list of performers, you select a performer and it shows you a list of recordings available.  Or you can start with performer, and it shows you a list of composers, etc.  It can be very good for getting an idea of what is available from a given composer, performer, conductor, etc.  Sometimes they have the lowest price if there is a sale of some sort.

importcds.com - They are the same as the importcds marketplace seller.  If you buy from their own site, the shipping can be cheaper, and sometimes the price on their own site is a lot lower than on amazon.com.  Their basic price for premium labels such as hyperion, BIS, Chandos, seems to be the lowest.
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Re: On-line Stores & Sellers
« Reply #857 on: April 08, 2013, 07:25:47 AM »
You've now heard about jpc, also used by many if not most. Add Berkshire Record Outlet (BRO) to the list as a valuable source of cutouts and overstocks.

This outlet in the UK, David?

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At least quite a lot of us Europeans. Add europadisc.co.uk for my part.

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« Reply #858 on: April 08, 2013, 07:26:45 AM »
This man is a cry baby and he needs to grow up.  Amazon is no different than any other business, it is there to make a profit ...

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« Reply #859 on: April 08, 2013, 07:41:20 AM »
DavidRoss has already mentioned Berkshire Record Outlet, a great resource for deleted and overstocks.

I'd add

Amazon marketplace - I almost never buy from amazon-proper, which is way expensive.  Almost always from a "marketplace seller,"  which includes i-Deals, Classical Music Superstore (Naxos America) Movie-Mars, importcds, as well as individuals selling their used stuff.  I'm also partial to Zoverstocks, a marketplace seller based in the UK.  It tends to be slow, but "very good" used stuff from them is almost always "like new."  Once an item didn't arrive, and they apologized and refunded with no reluctance, even though the fault was likely with the postal service.

arkivmusic.com - their prices are typically not the lowest but they have a great drill-down search method.  You select a composer, and it shows you a list of genres, you select a genre and it shows you a list of works, you select a work and it shows you a list of performers, you select a performer and it shows you a list of recordings available.  Or you can start with performer, and it shows you a list of composers, etc.  It can be very good for getting an idea of what is available from a given composer, performer, conductor, etc.  Sometimes they have the lowest price if there is a sale of some sort.

importcds.com - They are the same as the importcds marketplace seller.  If you buy from their own site, the shipping can be cheaper, and sometimes the price on their own site is a lot lower than on amazon.com.  Their basic price for premium labels such as hyperion, BIS, Chandos, seems to be the lowest.

Thanks, Parcifal -

I've dealt with Zoverstocks and agree completely. Never considered dealing with these fellows directly, however...hmmm good idea, m'thinks!

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