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Offline Mandryka

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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #340 on: April 07, 2017, 04:24:54 AM »
The used instrument is probably equally tuned, and this changes in his opinion the expressive potential too much.

Sure but he seems to be making a general claim about the limits of piano tuning.
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #341 on: April 07, 2017, 06:20:49 AM »
Sure but he seems to be making a general claim about the limits of piano tuning.

I thought he meant, that the equal tuning is the central issue.

Maybe he means that a modern piano, even if it is meantone tempered, cannot do this music justice. The piano's relative lack of partials may change the way we perceive the harmonies in meantone in an unfavorable way.

BTW I have never heard - or heard of - a meantone tempered piano. He should have heard one to be able to say so. Of course it is possible to tune a piano in this way - and in every other thinkable way.
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #342 on: April 07, 2017, 12:55:30 PM »
I thought he meant, that the equal tuning is the central issue.

Maybe he means that a modern piano, even if it is meantone tempered, cannot do this music justice. The piano's relative lack of partials may change the way we perceive the harmonies in meantone in an unfavorable way.

BTW I have never heard - or heard of - a meantone tempered piano. He should have heard one to be able to say so. Of course it is possible to tune a piano in this way - and in every other thinkable way.

There's a video with pianos played in different temperaments, but the difference isn't as obvious as that we find on harpsichord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBt6APk21tU

I think the gripe was also just with the eq-tuned piano.

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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #343 on: April 22, 2017, 06:39:08 AM »

The harpsichord  . . .sacrificed . . . the touch sensitivity . . . of the clavichord. 

Apart from vibrato, can someone who plays these things say whether this is true?
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #344 on: May 17, 2017, 06:55:43 PM »
Yes, Gluxam sounds elaborate if subtle .

Found: the naughty side of Gluxam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RTyePBLECE
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #345 on: May 26, 2017, 03:06:11 PM »
Found: the naughty side of Gluxam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RTyePBLECE

Solid performance on the unknown song. Impressive.

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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #346 on: August 13, 2017, 08:04:57 AM »


These pieces are all 17th century and anonymous, all very good music in a sort of Georg Böhm / Buxtehude style. Beautifully played by Lydia Maria Blank, who is as good here as she was in her Trabaci recording. Well worth hearing.
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #347 on: September 13, 2017, 06:01:32 AM »
Very amusing story about the discovery of the Louis Denis 1653 here

http://www.la-vouivre.ch/hanneton/pdf/historique.pdf

It is an amazing harpsichord. I'm really enjoying the recording using it by Giulia Nuti, she plays a Bauyn Manuscript selection. Apart from her, there are recordings by Rousset (LC), Jovanka Marville, (LC, Frob.), Erdas (D'Ang.) but I think that Nuti is the most successfully recorded, and in fact the best at making it sing, and at actualising  its colour potential.  Shame that Asperen has never recorded anything with it.

It's tempting to speculate that both Louis Couperin and Froberger knew it, maybe they played it together.
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #348 on: October 29, 2017, 01:05:28 AM »
Am no specialist regarding harpsichord recordings, but I´d be interesting in seeing what people´s say selected 3 or 5 or 10 harpsichord music recordings in general would be, for reasons of repertoire, instruments, musical schools etc.

Of course some explaining would be great too, but not obligatory.

Feel free to do so here, if in the mood for it some time. Am currently thinking about which ones to choose myself ...
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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #349 on: October 29, 2017, 02:09:02 AM »
Am no specialist regarding harpsichord recordings, but I´d be interesting in seeing what people´s say selected 3 or 5 or 10 harpsichord music recordings in general would be, for reasons of repertoire, instruments, musical schools etc.

Of course some explaining would be great too, but not obligatory.

Feel free to do so here, if in the mood for it some time. Am currently thinking about which ones to choose myself ...
It's a bit easier to do if I exclude Bach. For example, Skip Sempe's recording of Louis Couperin is a favorite of mine. There are some great recordings of Froberger, for example by Varotolo or Pamela Ruiter-Feenstra. Verlet's recording of Francois Couperin...Tilney's Frescobaldi...But this is excluding Bach who would probably take up all my slots. Oh, for the sound of a great harpsichord vis a vis Bach, Van Asperen's French Suit is unique. Otherwise the Well Tempered Clavier would get more than one place via various recordings. 

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Re: General Harpsichord and Clavichord Thread
« Reply #350 on: October 29, 2017, 03:59:49 AM »
A bit short but very beautiful sounding instruments:



People more familiar with the music were not too fond of the Boehm etc. pieces but I'd still recommend it for the sound of the instrument, alternatively Rampe's Handel disc on a similar instrument:



I have to think a little more about other favourites. Two I hesitate to mention because they are on 60s "revival" harpsichords, not on authentic ones are Anton Heiller's Rameau and Couperin Recitals (Vanguard), they are extremely entertaining, though.
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