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Cyclomania ** Symphonies **
« on: January 23, 2012, 10:48:42 AM »
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?
 
I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:
 
Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink
 
Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson
 
Prokofiev, 4: Ozawa; Rozhdestvensky; Martinon; Järvi
 
Sibelius, 7: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil; Vänskä/Lahti;  Rattle/CBSO;  Maazel/Pittsburgh
Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 10:52:46 AM »
Sibelius!  The reason why-- I sold off my cd collection and the only complete cycle I have on mp3 is the Vanska Sibelius cycle. :D

Pre-ultimate cull it was Mahler followed by Beethoven.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 11:09:24 AM »
Oh, I love this thread! Great idea, Karl!

You got the ball rolling, let's see if I can let it continue to roll...

Vaughan Williams - Thomson, Boult (Decca and EMI), Handley, Haitink, A. Davis, Daniel/Bakels, Previn, Slatkin

Shostakovich - Haitink, Kitajenko, Barshai, M. Shostakovich, Jansons, Rostropovich, Ashkenazy, Caetani, Kondrashin

Sibelius - all of C. Davis (Philips, RCA, LSO Live), Oramo, Blomstedt, Bernstein, both Maazel, Segerstam (Ondine), Vanska, Jarvi (DG), Inkinen, Barbirolli, Ashkenazy, Rattle, Berglund (middle EMI cycle), Sanderling, Sakari

Nielsen - Blomstedt (Decca), Schonwandt, Jarvi (DG), Kuchar, Rozhdestvensky, Salonen

Prokofiev - Jarvi, Kitajenko, Gergiev, Ozawa, Rostropovich

Bruckner - Chailly, Wand, Barenboim (Teldec), Inbal, Jochum (DG & EMI), Karajan, Maazel, Skrowaczewski, Solti, Haitink, Masur

Tchaikovsky - Abbado, Bernstein, Karajan, Jansons, Rostropovich, Muti, Mehta, Temirkanov, Svetlanov

Blue = favorite cycle

To be continued....
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 11:12:52 AM »
These are my top 3 overpopulated cycles....

[18] - Beethoven : Cluytens, Barenboim, Zinman, Wand, Karajan 50's, Karajan 60's, Karajan 70's, Gardiner, Masur, Harnoncourt, Maag, MacKerras, C. Davis, Klemperer, Haitink, W. Morris, Rattle, Abbado

[13] - Mahler : Chailly, Bertini, Solti, Abbado, Bernstein (Sony), Bernstein (DG), Gielen, Kubelik, Sinopoli, T.Thomas, Gergiev, Rattle, Tennstedt

[09] - Brahms : Karajan, Celibidache, Furtwangler, Sawallisch, Masur, Bohm, Abbado, Bernstein, Klemperer

[08] - Bruckner : Haitink, Jochum (DG), Jochum (EMI), Wand, Karajan, Chailly, Paternostro, Tintner, Celibidache ahem  :-[

Such as Shostakovich, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky & Vaughan Williams stroll in at around the 7 mark, poor old Mozart and Papa only have one!!  Elgar probably breaks the 20+ mark but as they are only two and a recon third then its hard to count Elgar  8)
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 11:17:04 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 11:12:52 AM
Celibidache

I thought we were only dealing with complete cycles not partial ones.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 11:19:12 AM »
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 23, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
I thought we were only dealing with complete cycles not partial ones.

It is complete, its as complete as Celibidache wanted it to be  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 11:20:16 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 11:19:12 AM
It is complete, its as complete as Celibidache wanted it to be  ;D

Hmmm....
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 11:27:00 AM »
I have only one cycle of any given cycle if they are four or more symphonies (e.g.: Mahler, Beethoven, etc.). I probably have a couple duplicates of cycles with four symphonies or less (like Schumann or Brahms), but not sure those really count (since the number of cds is so much less). And with Schumann, one of them is a Mahler edition of Schumann's symphonies. It's not quite the same.

Here are a few examples of cycles which I do not yet have (which I guess makes me an anti-cycle collector, if we are talking about having the same conductor and orchestra and/or issued in one package):
Shostakovich (have about a third)
Sibelius (have 5-6 of the symphonies)
Nielson (none)
Prokofiev (two symphonies)
Mozart (I think I have all the symphonies from various performances - perhaps missing a couple, but not by one group)
Glazunov

I guess my philosophy to generally not buy works I already have is on track (more or less)...
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 11:40:50 AM »
Shosty 1 Rostropovich  (pending Haitink)
Sibelius 5  Davis, Maazel, Maazel, Segerstam. Ashkenazy
Vaughan Williams 3  Previn, Handley, Boult
Beethoven 4 Karajan (60's), Gardiner, Zinman, Klemperer
Mahler 3  Tennstedt, Inbal, Neumann
Bruckner 4  Inbal, Barenboim, Jochum (DG), Karajan
Tchaikovsky 2  Karajan (70's)[he did others?], Jansons
Rangstrom 1 Rasilainen
Nielsen 1 Blomstedt
Tubin 1 Jarvi
Atterberg 1 Rasilainen
Brahms 2  Solti, Barenboim
Mozart 1 Mackerras

My God, I used to have a heap load more, but they were lost a few years ago in flames... :'(  Still, done not bad since then...   :D
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 11:43:33 AM »
I try not to think of these things.  I’ve clearly got too many symphony recordings.  I may have missed a cycle or two, but below are all of the cases where I have more than one complete cycle.

Update: favorites marked with asterisk

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Mahler (17) - Kubelik I*, Bernstein I & III*, Bertini, Abravanel, Gielen, Levine (incomplete), MTT*, Tennstedt*, Sinopoli, Rattle, Inbal, Chailly, Svetlanov, Maazel, Zinman, Neumann

Beethoven (14) – Chailly*, Morris, Walter (40s/50s on United Archives)*, Furtwangler, Bernstein I, Toscanini (’39* & 50s RCA cycle), Karajan III, Abbado II* & III, Barenboim, Hogwood, Gardiner, Kempe

Brahms (12) – Celibidache I & II, Levine I*, Giulini II*, Furtwangler, Walter I & II, Barenboim, Karajan (70s), Abbado I, Toscanini (50s/stereo), Kubelik*

Schumann (7) – Kubelik II, Bernstein II, Zinman, Barenboim II*, Karajan, Szell, Skrowaczewski

Bruckner (7) – Jochum II, Barenboim I & II, Wand*, Karajan, Tintner, Celibidache II (incomplete)*

Sibelius (5) – Ashkenazy*, Blomstedt, Maazel II, Bernstein, Davis I

Tchaikovsky (3) – Markevitch, Temirkanov*, Karajan

Dvorak (3) – Kubelik*, Suitner, Rowicki

Haydn (2) – Fischer*, Davies*

Schubert (2) – Bohm*, Barenboim

Szymanowki (2) – Wit*, Stryja

Scriabin (2) – Ashkenazy, Muti*

Vaughn Williams (2) – Previn*, Slatkin

Martinu (2) – Neumann, Belohlavek*
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 11:45:42 AM »
Todd,

What's your figure on Beethoven P/Sons?  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 11:47:13 AM »
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 10:48:42 AM
Whose complete symphony cycles do you have the most of, and how many?
 
I'm definitely a marginal player here, but I'll start off:
 
Shostakovich, 3: Maksim Dmitriyevich; Kondrashin; Haitink
 
Vaughan Williams, 3: Haitink; Handley; Thomson
 
Prokofiev, 3: Ozawa; Martinon; Järvi
 
Sibelius, 4: Maazel/Wiener; Blomstedt/SFSO; Berglund/Helsinki; Lenny/NY Phil

Of course, I missed:

Nielsen, 3: Blomstedt/SFSO; Thomson; Schmidt

Oh, the perdurable shame of having forgotten Nielsen in this thread! : )
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 11:49:44 AM »
Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on January 23, 2012, 11:45:42 AM
What's your figure on Beethoven P/Sons?  ;)


63 or 64 - can't remember off the top of my head.  And no, I don't see a problem with that. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 11:51:44 AM »
Quote from: Todd on January 23, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
63 or 64 - can't remember off the top of my head.  And no, I don't see a problem with that.

LOL, classic  ;D

I can't complain either, Mahler 5 for me stands at around the 60+ mark, plus maybe 10 to 15 bootlegs
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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 12:19:01 PM »
Favorites in bold (requested by George)

BEETHOVEN 11

KARAJAN  BERLIN PHIL (1963)
SOLTI CHICAGO
HARNONCOURT COE
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM STAATSKAP BERLIN
NORRINGTON LONDON CLASS
SZELL CLEVELAND
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
BRÜGGEN   18TH CENTURY
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL

BRAHMS 14

JOCHUM LPO
MACKERRAS SCOTTISH CHAMBER
KLEMPERER PHILHARMONIA
BARENBOIM CHICAGO
MAAZEL CLEVELAND
DOHNÁNYI CLEVELAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (M&A)
FURTWÄNGLER   VARIOUS (ARCHIPEL)
SANDERLING STAATS DRESDEN
WAND SONDR
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH PHIL
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
ESCHENBACH HOUSTON


BRUCKNER 7

MAAZEL SOBR
CHAILLY CONCERGEBOUW RSO BERLIN
BARENBOIM BERLIN PHIL
WAND KÖLNER RSO
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL
JOCHUM STAATS DRESDEN
CELIBIDACHE MUNICH (3-9)

DVORAK 4

SUITNER   STAATSKAPELLE BERLIN
ROWICKI   LSO
KERTESZ   LSO
KUBELIK   BERLIN PHIL


ELGAR 7

BOULT LPO
SINOPOLI PHILH
TATE    LSO
DAVIS LSO
SOLTI LPO
SLATKIN LPO
BARBIROLLI PHILHARMONIA HALLÉ

MAHLER 14 (16 INCLUDING KONDRASHIN AND LEVINE)

BERNSTEIN NEW YORK (SONY)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DG)
BERNSTEIN VARIOUS (DVD)
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
BERTINI KÖLNER RSO
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
SINOPOLI  PHILHARMONIA
RATTLE CBSO
TENNSTEDT LPO
SVETLANOV RUSSIAN STATE SO
INBAL RSO FRANKFURT
BOULEZ VARIOUS
CHAILLY CONCERTGEBOUW
GIELEN SWR SO BADEN BADEN
LEVINE VARIOUS
KONDRASHIN MOSCOW PHIL

MARTINU 3

JÄRVI BAMBERG
NEUMANN    CZECH PHIL
THOMSON    ROYAL SCOTTISH

NIELSEN 8

SCHMIDT   LSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
BERNSTEIN/ORMANDY VARIOUS
KUCHAR JANACEK PHIL
ROZHDESTVENSKY STOCKHOLM PHIL
SALONEN   SWEDISH RADIO SO
SCHONWANDT   DANISH NAT SO
BERGLUND ROYAL DANISH

PROKOFIEV 7

ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW PHIL
OZAWA BERLIN PHIL
JÄRVI SNO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN
WELLER LSO
ROSTROPOVICH VARIOUS
GERGIEV LSO

SCHMIDT 4

RAJTER RSO BRATISLAVA
LUISI MDR SO
JÄRVI DETROIT/CHICAGO
SINAISKY MALMÖ SO


SCHUBERT 6

GOODMAN HANOVER BAND
HARNONCOURT CONCERTGEBOUW
IMMERSEEL ANIMA ETERNA
DAVIS STAATS DRESDEN
BLOMSTEDT STAATS DRESDEN
WAND KÖLNER RSO

SCHUMANN 7

GOODMAN HANNOVER BAND
SZELL CLEVELAND
KLEMPERER NEW PHILH
BARENBOIM STAATS BERLIN
BERNSTEIN VIENNA PHIL
SEMKOW ST LOUIS
CHAILLY GO LEIPZIG

SHOSTAKOVICH 4

JANSONS   VARIOUS
ROSTROPOVICH NATIONAL SO LSO
BARSHAI WDR SO
KITAJENKO GÜRZENICH O KÖLN

MENDELSSOHN-BARTHOLDY 2

DOHNÁNYI VIENNA PHIL
KARAJAN BERLIN PHIL

SIBELIUS 18

DAVIS LSO
DAVIS BOSTON
DAVIS LSO LIVE
JÄRVI GOTHENBURG S
BERNSTEIN NY PHIL
VÄNSKÄ LAHTI SO
SANDERLING BERLIN SO
MAAZEL VIENNA PHIL
MAAZEL PITTSBURGH
BERGLUND COE
BERGLUND BOURNEMOUTH
ASHKENAZY PHILHARMONIA
ROZHDESTVENSKY MOSCOW RSO
SEGERSTAM HELSINKI PHIL
RATTLE CBSO
BLOMSTEDT SAN FRANCISCO
SAKARI ICELAND SO
BARBIROLLI HALLÉ

TIPPETT 2

DAVIS LSO (SOLTI/CHICAGO #4)
HICKOX BOURNEMOUTH

VAUGHAN WILLIAMS 8

HAITINK LPO
HANDLEY RLPO
PREVIN LSO
THOMSON LSO
BOULT LPO (EMI)
BOULT LPO (DECCA)
SLATKIN PHILHARMONIA
DAVIS BBC


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Re: Cyclomania
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 12:21:03 PM »
Quote from: Scots John on January 23, 2012, 11:40:50 AM
My God, I used to have a heap load more, but they were lost a few years ago in flames... :'(  Still, done not bad since then...   :D

Your collection's resurrection is mightily impressive, John.

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 12:22:06 PM »
Interesting that we've no overlap in Dmitri Dmitriyevich, Sarge!
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 12:23:15 PM »
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Mahler (17) - Kubelik, Bernstein I & III, Bertini, Abravanel, Gielen, Levine (incomplete), MTT, Tennstedt, Sinopoli, Rattle, Inbal, Chailly, Svetlanov, Maazel, Zinman, Neumann

And you didn't post that fact in the Mahler Madness thread? You might have won, dude!

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 12:24:43 PM »
Can I ask that folks indicate their favorite(s)? I think it'd be a useful way to find considered recommendations.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 12:29:50 PM »
Quote from: karlhenning on January 23, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Interesting that we've no overlap in Dmitri Dmitriyevich, Sarge!

I have a few Kondrashins in my collection. I like his 15th...about as far from Sanderling (my favorite) as one could get interpretively but all the more interesting because of it.

Haitink's cycle is about 50% complete. I've been collecting individually for what, 25 years now? In fact, I ordered Haitink's 14th a few days ago. Should be here any day now.

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