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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14400 on: January 12, 2018, 09:28:52 AM »
Meeting Leif Ove tonight for some wine drinking in Bergen, at least his presence is announced.
Some day I must travel to Bergen for one of your wine nights...

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« Reply #14401 on: January 12, 2018, 10:36:37 AM »
Unfortunately delayed flight in Bremen.....
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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14402 on: January 12, 2018, 01:14:35 PM »
Are these truly Olli Mustonen's complete RCA recordings? Did he not record the full Shostakovich P&F or the full Bach Book 1?


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« Reply #14403 on: January 12, 2018, 01:18:14 PM »
Are these truly Olli Mustonen's complete RCA recordings? Did he not record the full Shostakovich P&F or the full Bach Book 1?


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« Reply #14404 on: January 12, 2018, 01:19:09 PM »
He recorded the remainder of Bach/DSCH for Ondine ODE 1033-2D, called Vol.2 with the first Vol. being on a different label.
Similarly annoying is that he has another earlier disc with Beethoven variations that could be considered a companion to the two RCA Beethoven discs on Decca.

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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14405 on: January 12, 2018, 01:46:30 PM »
Thank you both for the Mustonen details!

Undortunately delayed flight in Bremen.....
By the way, congratulations on not being a shithole.

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« Reply #14406 on: January 13, 2018, 12:52:59 AM »
Thank you both for the Mustonen details!
By the way, congratulations on not being a shithole.
An honor I plan to savor for some time.

Leif Ove certainly did miss some goodies though:





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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14407 on: January 13, 2018, 01:25:34 AM »
An honor I plan to savor or some time.

Leif Ove certainly did miss some goodies though:




Looks like you (and your countrymen) are not likely to emigrate to the US anytime soon....  :D

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« Reply #14408 on: January 13, 2018, 01:34:06 AM »
A good time was had by all. Lots of time (8 hours), water and food, and snipping and spitting. Not entirely sober, but hey; 35 wines on 10 people takes its toll! Even though we are very experienced at this sort of thing. But feeling very good with a cup of coffe in front of the stereo now.

Looks like you (and your countrymen) are not likely to emigrate to the US anytime soon....  :D

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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14409 on: January 13, 2018, 06:05:04 PM »

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« Reply #14410 on: January 13, 2018, 08:41:09 PM »


I was going to say OUI!! until I saw the current Amazon price.  That is definitely on the steep side.  If you are willing to pay through the nose, you may as well go all the way with this, which includes the Heidseick cycle and several other goodies all wrapped up in the cheapest possible packaging


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« Reply #14411 on: January 13, 2018, 08:48:10 PM »
I've already got the Hungarian Quartet from there.... and the Christian Ferras.... and the André Cluytens. I mean it's a good box overall though, evidently. Just wondering people's general opinions on the quality of the playing since I had the occasion to hear Heidsieck's Hammerklavier and enjoyed it much more than I expected to given the slow tempi.

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« Reply #14412 on: January 13, 2018, 09:03:47 PM »
I've already got the Hungarian Quartet from there.... and the Christian Ferras.... and the André Cluytens. I mean it's a good box overall though, evidently. Just wondering people's general opinions on the quality of the playing since I had the occasion to hear Heidsieck's Hammerklavier and enjoyed it much more than I expected to given the slow tempi.

I think it's a very good cycle.  But I don't think it's worth paying ~$60 for.

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« Reply #14413 on: January 13, 2018, 10:39:02 PM »
I think it's a very good cycle.  But I don't think it's worth paying ~$60 for.

The Beethoven box used to be cheap, no more, judging from the amazon link.


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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14414 on: January 14, 2018, 02:05:51 AM »
I enjoyed the Heidsieck cycle a lot ... got that big EMI sucker (third time for the Ferras (and the Tortelier), but I didn't have the Hungarians ore the Cluytens or the "Fidelio" that's in there, so more than enough goodies).
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« Reply #14415 on: January 14, 2018, 05:49:40 AM »


I can't bear it but other people say they like it, the rubato just seems intrusive and pointless and unnatural to me and I find myself going twitchy when I listen to it. It's not that I'm against rubato I Beethoven, on the contrary in fact, it's the way he applies it which winds me up. I can't explain more because it's so long since I heard any of it.  If you want me to upload some of it for you to try before you buy, let me know.
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« Reply #14416 on: January 14, 2018, 05:56:44 AM »
I've located a source for it and I guess will listen before making any purchase decisions—this one seems to divide opinion.

Will also A/B with the slow Hammerklaviers I already have (Schiff/Rosen 197x/Jumppanen/Pollini 1989/Shimizu) and maybe also do A/Bs of Op. 2/2 and 31/3, two sonatas that can be basically ruined by mannerist playing

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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14417 on: January 14, 2018, 06:01:52 AM »
I enjoyed the Heidsieck cycle a lot ...
I think it is an utter waste of money and time

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« Reply #14418 on: January 14, 2018, 06:28:55 AM »


Obsidienne Ensemble, I'm not totally sure what the music is.
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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14419 on: January 14, 2018, 07:23:13 AM »
I can't bear it but other people say they like it, the rubato just seems intrusive and pointless and unnatural to me and I find myself going twitchy when I listen to it. It's not that I'm against rubato I Beethoven, on the contrary in fact, it's the way he applies it which winds me up. I can't explain more because it's so long since I heard any of it.  If you want me to upload some of it for you to try before you buy, let me know.

$60 is quite a lot for the Heidsieck cycle, and I agree that it is a mannered interpretation, but in some way it works for me, while the equally - and not qualitative similar - mannered e.g. Kuerti leaves me cold. Both are probably hit or miss.
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