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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #15140 on: March 16, 2019, 03:17:27 PM »
The reason, of course, being German-oriented and influenced musicology and music history.  >:D

Scriabin, Rachmaninov, Prokofiev - all German.

Now Medtner, on the other hand...
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« Reply #15141 on: March 16, 2019, 10:55:09 PM »
Naxos recently issued a CD of Tchaikovsky piano rarities called "Potpourri" with some unknown young pianist, Lance someone, and it was so dull I had to turn it off. But the Dumka is superb and the sonatas have good parts...and the morceaux op. 72 cycle is a total delight. I keep having faith that there is more good stuff in the Tchaikovsky piano world based on those examples.

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« Reply #15142 on: March 17, 2019, 06:10:41 AM »
Naxos recently issued a CD of Tchaikovsky piano rarities called "Potpourri" with some unknown young pianist, Lance someone, and it was so dull I had to turn it off. But the Dumka is superb and the sonatas have good parts...and the morceaux op. 72 cycle is a total delight. I keep having faith that there is more good stuff in the Tchaikovsky piano world based on those examples.

That would be this.


It would seem even the composer himself disliked at least on of the pieces included there.

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« Reply #15143 on: March 17, 2019, 10:32:29 AM »
Scriabin, Rachmaninov, Prokofiev - all German.

Now Medtner, on the other hand...

Hah!  :D
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« Reply #15144 on: March 17, 2019, 10:37:41 AM »





These two Decca Italy releases had escaped my notice before now.  Hmm. 
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« Reply #15145 on: March 18, 2019, 06:55:34 AM »
Currently looking at this recording:



Definitely some Enescu juvenilia to be found here, but many rarities. If anything, the disc would be a great way to familiarize oneself with the composer's early development as a composer.
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« Reply #15146 on: March 18, 2019, 09:37:12 AM »
Currently looking at this recording:



Definitely some Enescu juvenilia to be found here, but many rarities. If anything, the disc would be a great way to familiarize oneself with the composer's early development as a composer.
Most of it is juvenilia, bits and pieces thereof. I really wasn't impressed by this disc (but haven't listened to it since it first came out, so perhaps I would revise my opinion).

For the completist only...but I wouldn't expect that to deter you (it certainly didn't deter me  ;D)

BTW...that CD is labelled "Volume One", but there's been no sign of a followup AFAIK... ;)
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« Reply #15147 on: March 19, 2019, 06:44:57 AM »
Most of it is juvenilia, bits and pieces thereof. I really wasn't impressed by this disc (but haven't listened to it since it first came out, so perhaps I would revise my opinion).

For the completist only...but I wouldn't expect that to deter you (it certainly didn't deter me  ;D)

BTW...that CD is labelled "Volume One", but there's been no sign of a followup AFAIK... ;)

Yeah, this is pretty much what I figured, Rafael. It would be interesting from a historical perspective, but little else probably. I always find it fascinating to hear where a composer came from and how their styles matured as they got older.
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« Reply #15148 on: April 01, 2019, 09:04:11 PM »
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« Reply #15149 on: April 05, 2019, 05:55:30 AM »
I've decided I really should get onto one of the things on my to-do list, a recording of Bach's St John Passion.

Options that seem to have good vibes include:

Maasaki Suzuki on BIS
Gardiner on his SDG label
Layton on Hyperion
Edward Higginbottom on Naxos


Open to comments on these or other recommendations.
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« Reply #15150 on: April 05, 2019, 08:24:46 AM »
I don't know any of these. My recommendations would be Schreier (cond. and Evangelist) on Philips/Newton and Harnoncourt (the second one from the 1990s). Both highly rhetoric and dramatic interpretations with great singers (although the voices might be too "operatic" for some listeners).
You may also want to check out a recording of the alternative (older) version. I think Herreweghe's second recording is of that one and there is also one by Rilling that has the alternative pieces as an appendix.
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« Reply #15151 on: April 06, 2019, 12:47:25 PM »
I'm very happy with Pierlot & Ricercar Consort on Mirare, but don't know other recordings of the work.
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« Reply #15152 on: April 07, 2019, 04:53:19 AM »
I've decided I really should get onto one of the things on my to-do list, a recording of Bach's St John Passion.

Options that seem to have good vibes include:

Maasaki Suzuki on BIS
Gardiner on his SDG label
Layton on Hyperion
Edward Higginbottom on Naxos


Open to comments on these or other recommendations.

It's a good day for that, seeing that it was premiered today in 1724.


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That's what I'm listening to right now. Very fine recording though it is, it wouldn't be my 1st (or 4th) recommendation.

I'd look at one of these for that:


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Also very recommendable is, still, Gardiner! Jacobs. Butt!!. [Review]. Koopman! Herreweghe II !!!. Maybe the latter might be my go-to version, when I'm not looking for golden-oldie glory from Richter, Jochum or even Rilling.

NOT recommended: Cleobury (King's Choir), Sorrell (Apollo's Fire), Homburg (Handel's Company). Even Minkowski is a bit less than the idea promises.

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« Reply #15153 on: April 07, 2019, 07:30:34 AM »
The Jochum RCOA version is a classic. The all-important winds are creamy and pungent at the same time, in tune with the work itself: consolatory and dramatic.

The above-mentioned Pierlot version is one of unalloyed pleasure and refinement, my preferred modern version.

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« Reply #15154 on: April 07, 2019, 06:28:32 PM »
I don't know any of these. My recommendations would be Schreier (cond. and Evangelist) on Philips/Newton and Harnoncourt (the second one from the 1990s). Both highly rhetoric and dramatic interpretations with great singers (although the voices might be too "operatic" for some listeners).
You may also want to check out a recording of the alternative (older) version. I think Herreweghe's second recording is of that one and there is also one by Rilling that has the alternative pieces as an appendix.

This does not seem to be the Schrier recording you mean, but I can't tell if it is a re-issue, and don't see it on AmazonUS. Arkivmusic gives a release date of April 19.


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Peter Schreier conducts Bach’s St John Passion at St Thomas’s Church, Leipzig: a musical ray of light in the dark days of Passiontide Famous for his performances of the Evangelist in Bach’s oratorios and passions, the highly regarded Bach-expert Peter Schreier has also garnered international acclaim as a conductor. For the present project, he has taken to the podium once more. The album’s live recording from St Thomas’s Church, Leipzig, captures a remarkable performance of Johann Sebastian Bach’s St John Passion (BWV 245). Under the direction of Peter Schreier, the Sächsischer Kammerchor and the Mitteldeutsche Virtuosen present a truly gripping, profound rendition of Bach’s masterpiece. The Sächsischer Kammerchor and the Mitteldeutsche Virtuosen, performing on modern instruments, give eloquent testimony to their exceptional musical skills. Bach’s chorales, which are so essential to the St John Passion, radiate with poignant intimacy and expressive power. The ensemble of soloists, too, has been selected wisely. Martin Petzold offers a superb performance as the Evangelist. Staying close to the text, Petzold skilfully leads his audience through the Passion narrative. A further highlight: the young tenor Patrick Grahl. His impressive vocal presence allows him to master the challenging arias with great aplomb.
--- http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=2279851

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« Reply #15155 on: April 07, 2019, 10:48:26 PM »
This must be a different, more recent recording. The Schreier I mean has himself as Evangelist:

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« Reply #15156 on: April 13, 2019, 11:08:40 AM »
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« Reply #15157 on: April 20, 2019, 12:52:29 AM »
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« Reply #15158 on: April 20, 2019, 01:03:29 AM »
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« Reply #15159 on: April 26, 2019, 08:07:26 AM »
My record store has this Faure box but it has no booklet, does anyone that has this know if it came with one? Thanks.