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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 04:20:10 AM »
It isn't nuts if, like me, you already have most of what's in that box.  I think I only lack the sonatas and the mazurkas from what is in there. 

I did notice that the stereo recording of the Nocturnes--my favorite Chopin recording, period-- is on its own ridiculously cheap--under $16--if you don't want the full box.



Get the box....pass on the others to friends! :D  In fact, I did just that with the nocturnes that you posted above.  I hear you though when it comes to deciding on box sets that you have the majority of.
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Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2012, 05:47:36 PM »
I have Wasowski's set (as well as his Nocturnes). But they seem erratic and wayward to no positive end. I would choose Friedman and Jonas as well as Rubinstein 1965.

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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2012, 05:50:48 PM »
This is obviously turning into "you better have a few sets on the shelf to even comment", so I will take myself out of the "what to buy" discussion and just start buying more....and then comment after listening.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2012, 03:18:45 PM »
Listened to the three Mazurkas offered by Argerich....thanks to George. 8)  I enjoyed her playing more than the Rubinstein.  Unfortunately it seems that these are the only ones that she recorded....is this correct?  She brings an elegance, if not nobility to them that I just latched on to.  (Let alone the Preludes).  It was truly a pleasure.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2012, 11:09:58 PM »
What did you listen to , the three Op59s? 

A couple of years ago DG released her playing a whole bunch more here:



By the way, if you have been listening to her play op 59, the logical thing to do now is to seek out Pogorelich's record of them -- Argerich was herself very impressed by the way he plays them.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2012, 05:59:39 AM »
What did you listen to , the three Op59s? 

A couple of years ago DG released her playing a whole bunch more here:



By the way, if you have been listening to her play op 59, the logical thing to do now is to seek out Pogorelich's record of them -- Argerich was herself very impressed by the way he plays them.

Yes, the Op. 59 run.  Thanks for the lead on the cd and the Pogorelich.  Any recording you suggest?  It also looks as if the Op. 59 I have from this cd:



is a different recording than the one on the cd you posted.  Is that correct?
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2012, 06:01:31 AM »
is a different recording than the one on the cd you posted.  Is that correct?

Correct.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2012, 06:14:30 AM »
George, my wife makes me ask if that's you and if yes, are they real? :-[

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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2012, 06:17:31 AM »
George, my wife makes me ask if that's you and if yes, are they real? :-[

aha!  ;D

No, that's Amy Sedaris and I don't know if they are real. I wish I knew....  :-\
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2012, 06:39:04 AM »
The Argerich op 59s I like the most are live (I think) in 1965, this one:



I don't know if it's the same. I don't think so. I'll check when I'm at home.

The Pogorelich is IMO superior to the Argerich, but many wouldn't agree. It's here, but this may be very hard to find. If people want it I can upload it easily enough



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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2012, 08:27:14 AM »




is a different recording than the one on the cd you posted.  Is that correct?

Those were recorded in 1967 at Akademie der Wissenschaft in Munich






and those in 1965 at EMI Abbey Road Studios in London.





Finally, those are previously unreleased german radio recordings in 1967 at WDR in Cologne.

The dates are only for Op. 59/1-3
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2012, 09:52:21 AM »
Very helpful.  Thanks for the footwork, gents.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2012, 12:33:20 AM »
There's a very good transfer of Jonas's Mazurkas here -- much better than the transfer on Pearl.

http://randomclassics.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=maryla

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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #53 on: September 03, 2012, 05:37:53 AM »
There's a very good transfer of Jonas's Mazurkas here -- much better than the transfer on Pearl.

http://randomclassics.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=maryla

Thanks!!!

Beardsley is probably my least favorite Pearl transfer guy.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #54 on: September 03, 2012, 07:02:46 AM »
New this month on Avie Records:



A new recording of Russell Sherman playing the mazurkas!

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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2012, 07:18:09 AM »
New this month on Avie Records:



A new recording of Russell Sherman playing the mazurkas!


Hot damn!  Added to my cart.  How will his octogenarian fingers fare?
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2012, 10:05:03 AM »
There's a very good transfer of Jonas's Mazurkas here -- much better than the transfer on Pearl.

http://randomclassics.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=maryla

Actually, I like the Pearl more. More noise, but more high frequency info. The download to me sounds muffled.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2012, 10:42:07 AM »
Actually, I like the Pearl more. More noise, but more high frequency info. The download to me sounds muffled.

Are they the same performances?
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2012, 11:56:25 AM »
Are they the same performances?

I'd assumed that they were, but it looks like the Pearl has 5 Mazurkas that are not on the LP transfer. And the LP transfer has 9 Mazurkas not on the Pearl. Curiously, the 9 Mazurkas unique to the LP transfer all come at the end of the LP in a row, from tracks 10 to 18. I have not compared the common tracks to see if they are the same performances or not.
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Re: Chopin's mazurkas
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2012, 03:24:59 PM »
Jonas recorded 22 Mazurkas, each once, between that LP rip and the Pearl CD you can get all 22. In fact, these 22 and the rest of her Chopin on Pearl fit neatly on a single CD-R.

her discography can be found here: http://nettheim.com/jonas/jonas-discography.html
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