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The Originals
« on: December 18, 2012, 07:16:42 AM »
The Originals remains my favorite re-issue series (maybe just my favorite series!) and now that Philips and Decca have joined in, I was wondering what people's favorites were. I own quite a few, and here are some of my favorites:

Bach: Cello Suites, complete (Fournier, DG)
Bartok: Piano Concertos (Anda/Berlin RSO/Fricsay, DG)
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5, 7 (VPO/Kleiber, DG)
Beethoven: Late Piano Sonatas (Pollini, DG)
Brahms: Piano Concertos (Gilels/BPO/Jochum, DG)
Brahms: Symphony No. 4 (VPO/Kleiber, DG)
Dvorak: Cello Concerto / Tchaikovsky: Rococo Variations (Rostropovich/BPO/Karajan, DG)
Dvorak: Symphonies Nos. 8, 9 (BPO/Kubelik, DG)
Grieg: Lyric Pieces, selections (Gilels, DG)
Prokofiev: Piano Sonata No. 7 w/ works by Stravinsky / Boulez / Webern (Pollini, DG)
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 10 (BPO/Karajan, DG)

And I just picked up a few more recently...

Barber: Adagio for Strings w/ other American works (ASMF/Marriner, Decca/Argo)
Chopin: Polonaises (Pollini, DG)
Honegger: Symphonies Nos. 2, 3 / Stravinsky: Concerto in D (BPO/Karajan, DG)
Schubert: Late Piano Sonatas (Pollini, DG)
Schubert: Winterreise (Fischer-Dieskau/Demus, DG)
Vivaldi: Four Seasons, etc. (Loveday/ASMF/Marriner, Decca/Argo)

Enjoy any of these? Others I should check out?

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Re: The Originals
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 07:29:40 AM »
Those Pollini discs are great (except for the Polonaises). I don't own many others from the series, but Davis & RCO's Symphonie fantastique is a must!
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 07:32:51 AM »
Those Pollini discs are great (except for the Polonaises). I don't own many others from the series, but Davis & RCO's Symphonie fantastique is a must!

Not a fan of the Polonaises disc? Why? (I haven't opened it yet, which is why I'm asking!)

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 07:36:18 AM »
Not a fan of the Polonaises disc? Why? (I haven't opened it yet, which is why I'm asking!)
It's not awful, but the harsh sound makes it hard to listen to the whole thing.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 07:41:55 AM »
It's not awful, but the harsh sound makes it hard to listen to the whole thing.

Understood. Thanks for explaining.

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Re: The Originals
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 08:02:48 AM »
A couple of fine Beethoven disks;

Wilhelm Kempff - Beethoven - 4 named sonatas (Moonlight, Pathetique etc.) DG  if you don't have the entire box set this is excellent!



Carlos Kleiber - Beethoven Symphonies 5 & 7



Scherazade Kondrashin/Concertgebouw Decca



I have a bunch of Originals, I agree with you, one of my favorite series. But the above are among my favorites of those. :)

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Re: The Originals
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 08:07:19 AM »
The Originals remains my favorite re-issue series (maybe just my favorite series!) and now that Philips and Decca have joined in, I was wondering what people's favorites were. I own quite a few, and here are some of my favorites:

Bach: Cello Suites, complete (Fournier, DG)
Bartok: Piano Concertos (Anda/Berlin RSO/Fricsay, DG)
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 5, 7 (VPO/Kleiber, DG)
Beethoven: Late Piano Sonatas (Pollini, DG)
Brahms: Piano Concertos (Gilels/BPO/Jochum, DG)
Brahms: Symphony No. 4 (VPO/Kleiber, DG)
Dvorak: Cello Concerto / Tchaikovsky: Rococo Variations (Rostropovich/BPO/Karajan, DG)
Dvorak: Symphonies Nos. 8, 9 (BPO/Kubelik, DG)
Grieg: Lyric Pieces, selections (Gilels, DG)
Prokofiev: Piano Sonata No. 7 w/ works by Stravinsky / Boulez / Webern (Pollini, DG)
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 10 (BPO/Karajan, DG)

And I just picked up a few more recently...

Barber: Adagio for Strings w/ other American works (ASMF/Marriner, Decca/Argo)
Chopin: Polonaises (Pollini, DG)
Honegger: Symphonies Nos. 2, 3 / Stravinsky: Concerto in D (BPO/Karajan, DG)
Schubert: Late Piano Sonatas (Pollini, DG)
Schubert: Winterreise (Fischer-Dieskau/Demus, DG)
Vivaldi: Four Seasons, etc. (Loveday/ASMF/Marriner, Decca/Argo)

Enjoy any of these? Others I should check out?
There are so many, so I will limit to what I have (excluding some you already posted):

Beethoven Symphony 9: Karajan/BPO ('63)
Beethoven/Mozrt Violin Concertos: Schneiderhan/Jochum (outstanding)
Dvorak: Slovanic Dances: Kubelik (scorcher)
Prokofiev Alexander Nevsky Abbado (a decent supplement, but not a first choice for me)
Puccini Tosca: Price/di Stefano/Karajan/VPO (wow!)
Rchmaninov Sonata No 2 and others: Kocsis (can be found in special 5 disc set for less)
Schubert/Schumann Dichteliebe and others: Wunderlich (voice so beautiful, worth it for that)
Tchaikovsky Symphonies 4-6: Mravinsky (a must have)

I'll bet I have more before they were released as originals, but these are a good start.
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Re: The Originals
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 08:09:49 AM »
A couple of fine Beethoven disks;

Wilhelm Kempff - Beethoven - 4 named sonatas (Moonlight, Pathetique etc.) DG

My first disc. Still the favourite among the two Op. 57s I have. :D

However, sentimental reasons apart, currently I'm not a fan of my first disc containing a Beethoven symphony:

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Which was bought along with another from the series -- one which I mistook for a recording by Karajan. :)

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 10:22:56 AM »
The Karajan, the Kleiber, Pollini's Beethoven Piano Sonatas and Kubelik's Dvorak you included are amazing; others could certainly be:

 


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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 10:28:07 AM »
For Karajan's Holst Planets, I much prefer the coupling on another CD, where it comes with Monteux's excellent Elgar Enigma Variations. It's also among Elgarian's favorite readings of those variations, and he should know, his name is Elgarian!

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Re: The Originals
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 10:29:20 AM »
The Karajan, the Kleiber, Pollini's Beethoven Piano Sonatas and Kubelik's Dvorak you included are amazing; others could certainly be:

 




All of these recordings are winners, Ilaria. Don't forget this one:



or these:







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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 10:31:27 AM »
For Karajan's Holst Planets, I much prefer the coupling on another CD, where it comes with Monteux's excellent Elgar Enigma Variations. It's also among Elgarian's favorite readings of those variations, and he should know, his name is Elgarian!

Yes, Monteux's Enigma is very good, but if one were wanting a box set of Monteux, they could easily obtain that performance plus a whole slew of other fine performances here:



Edit: Wow, this one is out-of-print? ??? Man, I'm glad I bought this set when I did. It's extremely expensive now.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 10:33:18 AM »
Edit: Wow, this one is out-of-print? ??? Man, I'm glad I bought this set when I did. It's extremely expensive now.
Yeah, I think all those "Original Masters" boxes with the ugly rainbow bands are going away quickly. I got an Ansermet one, but I'd love to have the Monteux and Jochum/Beethoven boxes too.

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 10:36:19 AM »
Yeah, I think all those "Original Masters" boxes with the ugly rainbow bands are going away quickly. I got an Ansermet one, but I'd love to have the Monteux and Jochum/Beethoven boxes too.

I own the Monteux and Stokowski sets. Both are excellent.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 11:08:37 AM »
A couple of fine Beethoven disks;

Wilhelm Kempff - Beethoven - 4 named sonatas (Moonlight, Pathetique etc.) DG  if you don't have the entire box set this is excellent!



I just picked up the entire set a few months ago after hanging on to that disc and the Late Sonatas for a couple of years. 'Tis great!

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I have a bunch of Originals, I agree with you, one of my favorite series. But the above are among my favorites of those. :)

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Thanks for the Rimksy-Korsakov recommendation! I know the Reiner recording, but this one is new to me.

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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 11:11:38 AM »



I have the Richter Rachmaninov PC 2 with the Prokofiev PC 5 on an older DG disc. Same goes for Karajan's Prokofiev Symphony 5, which I have with No. 1 on a Galleria disc instead of the re-release with Stravinsky's Rite of Spring.

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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2012, 11:22:50 AM »
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Re: The Originals
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2012, 11:22:59 AM »
All of these recordings are winners, Ilaria. Don't forget this one:



or these:









Yeah, absolutely; the list could be very long. :)
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2012, 11:56:32 AM »
This one would be a no-brainer except it's only available as one of those expensive Japanese Shm-CD CDs. Probably worth it anyway. As an alternative the non-Originals recording is floating around cheaply on Amazon's MP.








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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2012, 12:38:46 PM »
Some fine Handel.






Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach