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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118400 on: July 21, 2018, 11:40:11 AM »


This is a transcription for four celli of most of Bach's Orgelbüchlein.

Well, sometimes I think the most important purpose of transcriptions is to make it possible for other musicians to play the music, particularly when the transcription (or performance) adds so little of interest compared to the original as here. And these four musicians go wrong with the affects of the pieces in question very often, and little by little some disturbing sameness also sneaks in. The style of playing is a bit oldfashioned. I am afraid that there was very little for me to enjoy.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118401 on: July 21, 2018, 11:51:13 AM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118402 on: July 21, 2018, 12:03:21 PM »
Soler: Harpsichord Sonatas Nos. 35 & 116 [Rowland]





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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118403 on: July 21, 2018, 12:19:19 PM »
hot day, but I feel more organized and can plan these three with recognizable composers but unfamiliar works
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118404 on: July 21, 2018, 12:29:24 PM »
The two discs of this twofer between yesterday evening and tonight.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118405 on: July 21, 2018, 04:21:12 PM »
Trois Couleurs: Bleu original soundtrack
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118406 on: July 21, 2018, 05:23:04 PM »


Well-known and little-known works by Schumann. I like Ciocarlie’s way with the composer, catching both his serious and his unpretentious sides.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118407 on: July 21, 2018, 06:15:55 PM »
Portrait of the Artist as a Starved Dog
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118408 on: July 21, 2018, 08:06:24 PM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118409 on: July 21, 2018, 08:18:14 PM »
Two very impressive concertos by Saygun

the Cello Concerto



and the Violin Concerto



https://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/classical/products/7937880--saygun-symphony-no-4-op-53-etc

And closing the evening with a charming Violin Sonata in B-flat major by Eberl.  Definitely investigate if you love early Beethoven.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118410 on: July 21, 2018, 08:42:07 PM »
Portrait of the Artist as a Starved Dog
Graindelavoix, Björn Schmelzer
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Not sure what I've gotten myself into.

One of the best productions of Graindelavoix!
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118411 on: July 21, 2018, 09:54:04 PM »
Morning listening is volume IV of the Leiden Choirbooks:


This volume consists entirely of 4 and 5-part motets in a mix of famous and unfamiliar names: Thomas Crecquillon, Johannes Lupi (Jean Leleu), Johannes Richafort, Nicolas Payen, Ciprianus de Rore, Johannes Flammingus, Eustacius Barbion, Jacobus Clemens non Papa, Franciscus IJsenbaert and Philippe Verdelot.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118412 on: July 21, 2018, 09:56:27 PM »
One of the best productions of Graindelavoix!

So, if (when) I will try them, I should start with that disc.  :)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118413 on: July 21, 2018, 10:03:41 PM »
This is a transcription for four celli of most of Bach's Orgelbüchlein.

Well, sometimes I think the most important purpose of transcriptions is to make it possible for other musicians to play the music, particularly when the transcription (or performance) adds so little of interest compared to the original as here. And these four musicians go wrong with the affects of the pieces in question very often, and little by little some disturbing sameness also sneaks in. The style of playing is a bit oldfashioned. I am afraid that there was very little for me to enjoy.

I’m listening to 622 now, it’s very good, and I’d say revealing.

More generally,  I like the idea in fact, the idea of playing it with four naturally singing, voice-like instrument with the same basic tonality, and all that brings to the music in terms of phrasing. I’m reminded of this comment that Marie Claire Alain made in the context of a discussion about AoF

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For the 18th century composer the same piece passed indiscriminately from the keyboard to the bow. The organist must consider the possible bowings in his search for the correct phrasing, while the violinist (or singer) is often obliged to consult the keyboard.


For me the biggest problem was the lack of interesting transitions from one piece to the other, lots of short pieces separated by silences, the effect becomes eventually irritating.

(By the way, it’s a very strong comment that, by Alain, when she says “passed indiscriminately from the keyboard to the bow“ She surely can’t be right about all keyboard music, can she?  But she may be right about organ music. )
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118414 on: July 21, 2018, 10:42:36 PM »
So, if (when) I will try them, I should start with that disc.  :)

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Sampling is always a wise move. My taste is not necessarily your cup of tea. But yes it is a good disc to start with, although many members will disagree.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118415 on: July 21, 2018, 11:04:43 PM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118416 on: July 21, 2018, 11:07:09 PM »
I’m listening to 622 now, it’s very good, and I’d say revealing.

More generally,  I like the idea in fact, the idea of playing it with four naturally singing, voice-like instrument with the same basic tonality, and all that brings to the music in terms of phrasing. I’m reminded of this comment that Marie Claire Alain made in the context of a discussion about AoF

For me the biggest problem was the lack of interesting transitions from one piece to the other, lots of short pieces separated by silences, the effect becomes eventually irritating.

(By the way, it’s a very strong comment that, by Alain, when she says “passed indiscriminately from the keyboard to the bow“ She surely can’t be right about all keyboard music, can she?  But she may be right about organ music. )

To display the delicate affects of Bach's organ chorale preludes is not only a question of phrasing (and articulation) but just as much a question of balance and timbre. On the organ with two manuals and pedal you can give each part its own (for the affect) suitable timbre and thereby also decide the balance of the parts. All this is corrupted in the cello version, which appears just like a plate with undefined cello soup. 
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118417 on: July 21, 2018, 11:39:49 PM »
To display the delicate affects of Bach's organ chorale preludes is not only a question of phrasing (and articulation) but just as much a question of balance and timbre. On the organ with two manuals and pedal you can give each part its own (for the affect) suitable timbre and thereby also decide the balance of the parts. All this is corrupted in the cello version, which appears just like a plate with undefined cello soup.

I’ve been listening just now to this, which contains some things from the orgelbuchlein, and the same consistency of texture applies




 
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118418 on: July 21, 2018, 11:47:23 PM »
Further listening with this new arrival:



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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #118419 on: July 21, 2018, 11:54:15 PM »
Further listening with this new arrival:



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