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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105660 on: December 12, 2017, 01:17:41 PM »
Yes, but like Chopin, their music is quite serious, both in intent and in terms of its expansion of the possibilities of the art.   ;)

How do you know that Mozart's or Haydn's or Chopin's goal was to "expand the possibilities of the art"? Did they themselves say so (if they did, please quote the primary sources), or is this an ex post facto ideological concoction? Supplementary, what is so "serious" about the tons of divertimenti / serenades / cassations produced by Mozart and Haydn?




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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105661 on: December 12, 2017, 01:26:33 PM »
How do you know that Mozart's or Haydn's or Chopin's goal was to "expand the possibilities of the art"? Did they themselves say so (if they did, please quote the primary sources), or is this an ex post facto ideological concoction?

That is not what I said.  I did not say that they sought to expand the possibilities of the art, but rather that they did so.  I don't know what you think my "ideology" is, nor am I sure how such a thing would matter in this instance.  As I've said before, I'm a composer, and I enjoy music for its beauty and meaning.  I am grateful to Mozart and Chopin and Haydn for having expanded music in the way they did, and for being excellent models with much to teach us to this day.

Supplementary, what is so "serious" about the tons of divertimenti / serenades / cassations produced by Mozart and Haydn?

Their craftsmanship, of course, which is (in mature works) of the highest quality.  In intent, both composers (and Chopin) wrote music full of unpredictability, harmonic richness, and emotional depth.  These things exist even in their ostensibly lighter works, and this in spite of the occasions for which they were produced (background listening at the salon or a dinner party, for example).

At any rate, Mozart and Haydn would have considered their most characteristic works to be the operas, the string quartets/quintets, the concertos, and the (later, in Mozart's case) symphonies, rather than the occasional pieces you mentioned.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105662 on: December 12, 2017, 01:37:32 PM »
arrived today, the price had dropped to $8.50 -ish, back up to $21. --  so I added it to get free shipping as well for a low-cost Christmas gift I'm giving

a recital on a new Klais organ in the Auditorium maximus at the Ruhr-Universität Bochum played by Johannes Unger
4 manuals and pedal, 82 stops, 6000 pipes including two 32-ft.
some of the usual display pieces and some novelties
BACH: Sonata in d, BWV527   P&F in C BWV 541    LISZT: Weinen klagen...   WIDOR: that Toccata     MESSIAEN: Dieu parmi nous
SAINT-SAËNS: Fantaisie 2 op.101
Ludwig NIELSEN: Fantasie on "Die Glocken des Nidarosdomes"  William LLOYD WEBBER (father of more known sons) Prelude  from "Three Recital Pieces"
an enjoyable disc on the Querstand label with good documentation


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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105663 on: December 12, 2017, 01:45:26 PM »
Aldo Ciccolini assembles a program of waltzes by Chabrier, Chopin, Pierné, Grieg, Satie, Séverac, Schubert, Debussy, Massenet, Sibelius, Fauré, Brahms, and Tailleferre:


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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105664 on: December 12, 2017, 01:52:07 PM »


Alain Planès | Alexandre Tharaud | Isabelle Faust, Deutsches Symphonie Orchester Berlin and Marko Letonja | Philippe Bernold, Gérard Caussé, Isabelle Moretti and Ariane Jacob | and others

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105665 on: December 12, 2017, 02:07:41 PM »
Vaughan Williams Symphony No.6 E minor, Previn conducting the LSO




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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105666 on: December 12, 2017, 06:08:36 PM »
Essay for Orchestra No. 3:



Barber’s last work and it’s quite moving.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105667 on: December 12, 2017, 06:33:05 PM »
The major item on tonight's agenda


I'm wondering how anyone could extract a suite from Spalicek. It's very fast flowing and diverse. The liner notes have a major flaw: while they contain the sung text, they make almost no attempt to explain what is supposed to be happening on stage.
Spectre's Bride sounds properly spectral.

MI was right about this recording: it's a near essential Martinu CD.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105668 on: December 12, 2017, 06:49:43 PM »
The major item on tonight's agenda


I'm wondering how anyone could extract a suite from Spalicek. It's very fast flowing and diverse. The liner notes have a major flaw: while they contain the sung text, they make almost no attempt to explain what is supposed to be happening on stage.
Spectre's Bride sounds properly spectral.

MI was right about this recording: it's a near essential Martinu CD.


Glad you enjoyed the music, Jeffrey. 8) It’s a fine disc. The Romance of the Dandelions is a particular favorite. This whole disc is Martinu in ‘Czech mode’. Gorgeous stuff.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105669 on: December 12, 2017, 06:55:20 PM »
Fresh from the mailbox:

A London Symphony (‘Symphony No. 2’) - 1920 version
Sound Sleep
Orpheus with his lute
Variations


Elizabeth Watts, soprano
Mary Bevan, soprano
Kitty Whately, mezzo-soprano
Martyn Brabbins, conductor
Royal College of Music Brass Band
BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra


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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105670 on: December 12, 2017, 07:25:17 PM »



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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105671 on: December 12, 2017, 07:54:43 PM »
Revisit of this set of good music disguised as salon music


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Mazurka No. 1 for piano in G minor, Op. 21
  2. Mazurka No. 2 for piano in G minor, Op. 24
  3. Mazurka No. 3 for piano in B minor, Op. 66
  4. Gavotte for piano in C minor (also orchestrated), Op. 23
  5. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Prelude
  6. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Andantino malinconico
  7. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Prelude-Fugue
  8. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Andantino
  9. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Prelude-Fugue
  10. Études (6) for piano, Op. 52: Etude en forme de valse
  11. Allegro appassionato, for piano (also with orchestra ad lib) in C sharp minor, Op. 70
  12. Minuet et valse, for piano, Op. 56
  13. Une nuit à Lisbonne, barcarolle for orchestra in E flat major, Op. 63
  14. Polonaise, for 2 pianos in F minor, Op. 77

I think the Amazon editorial review, by Leslie Gerber, drastically underestimates the quality of this music.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105672 on: December 12, 2017, 08:18:11 PM »
Billy the Kid:



Quite an evocative account of a Copland masterpiece.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105673 on: December 12, 2017, 11:13:57 PM »
 

Pieter-Jan Belder plays the Italian Concerto, French Overture and Chromatic Fantasy on a harpsichord after Ruckers.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105674 on: December 13, 2017, 12:25:25 AM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105675 on: December 13, 2017, 12:49:43 AM »
Early morning listening on a dark and rainy Wednesday morning.
CD 3 of this set, with which I am quite pleased.

http://walboi.blogspot.nl/2017/12/telemann-georg-philipp-1681-1767_13.html?spref=tw

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105676 on: December 13, 2017, 01:06:18 AM »
Early morning listening on a dark and rainy Wednesday morning.
CD 3 of this set, with which I am quite pleased.

http://walboi.blogspot.nl/2017/12/telemann-georg-philipp-1681-1767_13.html?spref=tw

The snow definitely looked nicer...  Enjoy!

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105677 on: December 13, 2017, 01:41:44 AM »
Titz, Anton Ferdinand (1742-1810) - String Quartets w/ the Hoffmeister Quartet on period instruments - Titz was born in Nuremberg, moved to Vienna where he was 'discovered' by the Russian aristocracy and secured a job in St. Petersburg as the court musician to Catherine the Great; he was not quite 30 years old - lived the rest of his life in Russia. Classical Viennese style w/ Slavic influences and early romanticism - attached are Fanfare comments on the first two CDs, the second volume was reviewed by our own Jens. :)  Dave

   

Ah, good music and good memories. And of course this line -- "I, for one, canʼt wait to get my hands on more Titz." -- which I enjoyed sneaking into Fanfare.  ;D

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105678 on: December 13, 2017, 01:56:45 AM »
New acquisition, first listen:
CD 3 of this set.
Gorgeous!!

http://walboi.blogspot.nl/2017/12/the-heritage-of-claudio-monteverdi.html?spref=tw

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #105679 on: December 13, 2017, 02:10:37 AM »
Luciano Berio's playful Opus Number Zoo (for wind quintet and reciter) and Ricorrenze (a tribute to Pierre Boulez, also for wind quintet) form this CD:


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