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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138800 on: July 18, 2019, 12:59:41 AM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138801 on: July 18, 2019, 01:01:37 AM »
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Quite possibly the best piano recital ever, in any case one of the most spectacular: an eighty-something plays one-and-a-half hour worth of music entirely from memory.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138802 on: July 18, 2019, 03:18:27 AM »
Never heard about that - are you sure?

Yes I'm sure,it was this box,on the LP  sleeve was printed electronically sterophonisized.



In this box his second (stereo ) Eroica recording for EMI  is not included but the older one and it is in stereo !


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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138803 on: July 18, 2019, 04:35:28 AM »
Yes I'm sure,it was this box,on the LP  sleeve was printed electronically sterophonisized.



In this box his second (stereo ) Eroica recording for EMI  is not included but the older one and it is in stereo !



Never seen the word stereophonisized before anywhere.

According to the information in the booklet for the box set you show Symphonies 3 & 5 were recorded in X & XI 1959, Abbey Road Studios; all the contents of the box are described as stereo. The publication date of No 3 is given as 1961.

I also have the Eroica on a disc from the series 'the klemperer legacy' and it is the same recording as the box set. According to the booklet notes, Klemperer conducting a live cycle of the symphonies in 1957 with the Nos 1, 4, 8 & 9 being recorded while the cycle was in progress. Nos 2 & 6 were recorded just a few weeks before and Nos 3 & 5 in 1959. No 7 was recorded in 1955.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138804 on: July 18, 2019, 05:04:51 AM »
Never seen the word stereophonisized before anywhere.

According to the information in the booklet for the box set you show Symphonies 3 & 5 were recorded in X & XI 1959, Abbey Road Studios; all the contents of the box are described as stereo. The publication date of No 3 is given as 1961.

I also have the Eroica on a disc from the series 'the klemperer legacy' and it is the same recording as the box set. According to the booklet notes, Klemperer conducting a live cycle of the symphonies in 1957 with the Nos 1, 4, 8 & 9 being recorded while the cycle was in progress. Nos 2 & 6 were recorded just a few weeks before and Nos 3 & 5 in 1959. No 7 was recorded in 1955.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Symphony-Nos-Otto-Klemperer/dp/B00006I0CY

These recordings are mono and they were available in (elektronic) stereo

 I cannot find information about this but there were more EMI recordings that were  made electronically   stereo.I remember also a Boris Godunov that was originally mono.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138805 on: July 18, 2019, 05:08:56 AM »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Symphony-Nos-Otto-Klemperer/dp/B00006I0CY

These recordings are mono and they were available in (elektronic) stereo

 I cannot find information about this but there were more EMI recordings that were  made electronically   stereo.I remember also a Boris Godunov that was originally mono.

If I remember right what you say is true for 7 at least.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138806 on: July 18, 2019, 05:13:13 AM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138807 on: July 18, 2019, 05:15:28 AM »
If I remember right what you say is true for 7 at least.

No, concerning symphony 7, an unknown stereo recording was unexpectedly found, made simultaneously with the mono recording 1955. This stereo was later released as a set together with symphonies 3 and 5 likewise from 1955 but in mono.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138808 on: July 18, 2019, 05:19:36 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement, albeit I don't think I'm not going to listen to it soon.

Re: Karajan's Schoenberg Variations. I fell in love with the work listening to that recording  ;D. It felt like some kind of aural  kaleidoscope.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138809 on: July 18, 2019, 05:29:05 AM »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Symphony-Nos-Otto-Klemperer/dp/B00006I0CY

These recordings are mono and they were available in (elektronic) stereo

 I cannot find information about this but there were more EMI recordings that were  made electronically   stereo.I remember also a Boris Godunov that was originally mono.

Here:

https://www.discogs.com/Beethoven-KlempererPhilharmonia-Orchestra-Symphonies-3-5-7-etc/release/7290664

is a vinyl set of "the original Philharmonia recordings" of symphonies 3, 5 and 7. They are described as being stereo, but nowhere on the cover nor on the displayed label on the record (symphony 7 though) is the word "electronized" or anything like that mentioned. Rather cryptic I think.
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138810 on: July 18, 2019, 05:32:02 AM »
No, concerning symphony 7, an unknown stereo recording was unexpectedly found, made simultaneously with the mono recording 1955. This stereo was later released as a set together with symphonies 3 and 5 likewise from 1955 but in mono.

That explains things for me at least though the recording of No 3 in the box set is the later one (1959). There is also a live Klemperer cycle from 1960 with the Vienna Philharmonic and that is mono electronically processed to stereo.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138811 on: July 18, 2019, 05:43:03 AM »
Morning listening:


I'm a fan of Enrico Onofri and his dusky violin tone, so this was an easy sales pick at jpc.
Curious how it will compare to my current favourite Stefano Montanari (with Dantone, ARTS). We'll see....  :)

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Hi Que!  Welcome back, looks like you had a nice holiday.  :)

Very much looking forward to your thoughts on this (and the first volume?).

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This release is my purchase of the year (so far  :D).

Big thanks to Harry and Mandryka for recommending it.  ;)

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138812 on: July 18, 2019, 05:49:55 AM »
That explains things for me at least though the recording of No 3 in the box set is the later one (1959). There is also a live Klemperer cycle from 1960 with the Vienna Philharmonic and that is mono electronically processed to stereo.

I have not heard about anything like that, so you probably think of this one played by the Philharmonia orchestra visiting Vienna:

https://www.amazon.com/Klemperer-Conducts-Beethoven-Symphonies-Overtures/dp/B004RPQRS8

The cover tells, that it is remastered, but there is nothing about stereo. I own the Andromeda incarnation, and it is mono:

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-1770-1827-Symphonien-Nr-1-9/hnum/1146694
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138813 on: July 18, 2019, 06:04:08 AM »
Sorry, my mistake, it is indeed the Philharmonia visiting Vienna.

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138814 on: July 18, 2019, 06:08:50 AM »
Here:

https://www.discogs.com/Beethoven-KlempererPhilharmonia-Orchestra-Symphonies-3-5-7-etc/release/7290664

is a vinyl set of "the original Philharmonia recordings" of symphonies 3, 5 and 7. They are described as being stereo, but nowhere on the cover nor on the displayed label on the record (symphony 7 though) is the word "electronized" or anything like that mentioned. Rather cryptic I think.

I  found  this  It is the same as in the 3 LP Beethoven box



"These records were originally from mono tapes. They have been electronically reprocessed to give a stereo effect when played on stereophonic equipment."

https://www.discogs.com/Boris-Christoff-Issay-Dobrowen-French-Radio-Orchestra-Moussorgsky-Boris-Godounoff/release/7432386

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138815 on: July 18, 2019, 06:20:09 AM »
I  found  this

"These records were originally from mono tapes. They have been electronically reprocessed to give a stereo effect when played on stereophonic equipment."

I know well, that electronic stereo was a frequent thing around 1970. I have owned a lot of these hybrids:Walcha's Leipzig chorales from Cappel. August Wenzinger's Brandenburg concertos both from Archive, and Karl Richter's first Brandenburg set (Decca). But what I wrote was that I never have seen an electronic stereo version of Klemperer's 1955 Eroica.

Did you own the Klemperer box, and are you able to say for sure, that the same was written in it? 
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138816 on: July 18, 2019, 06:22:28 AM »
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138817 on: July 18, 2019, 07:47:32 AM »
"Papa"
Symphonies 9 in C, 12 in E, & 13 in D
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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138818 on: July 18, 2019, 08:25:33 AM »
I know well, that electronic stereo was a frequent thing around 1970. I have owned a lot of these hybrids:Walcha's Leipzig chorales from Cappel. August Wenzinger's Brandenburg concertos both from Archive, and Karl Richter's first Brandenburg set (Decca). But what I wrote was that I never have seen an electronic stereo version of Klemperer's 1955 Eroica.

Did you own the Klemperer box, and are you able to say for sure, that the same was written in it?

 Yes ,I'm sure that the same was written on the sleeves but the Eroica could be an exception.I can't remember that much.I sold most of my LP's .

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Re: What are you listening to now?
« Reply #138819 on: July 18, 2019, 09:11:20 AM »
Yes ,I'm sure that the same was written on the sleeves but the Eroica could be an exception.I can't remember that much.I sold most of my LP's .

To further confuse matters, he also recorded some of the LvB symphonies with the WDR Koln in the 1950s.  I have them, mixed with copies of the Philharmonia recordings, in a Membran box. Since it's Membran there is absolutely no clue as to being stereo or mono or anything else beyond the year of recording. (And it's been long enough since I listened to them that I don't remember if they are stereo or mono. Dates suggest mono.)
The Eroica in that set is one of the Koln recordings.

 

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