Author Topic: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)  (Read 3363 times)

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Offline calyptorhynchus

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2016, 10:45:56 PM »
Eshpai's last symphony, No.8, now available on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baGLYrPMabE

It's a good one!

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2016, 12:30:13 AM »
Eshpai's last symphony, No.8, now available on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baGLYrPMabE

It's a good one!
Great news. Thanks. I love Symphony 5.
Have just listened to it. It is a fine work with a definite valedictory feel at the opening and close. I have heard a few of Eshpai's symphonies but this one, along with No.5, has made the greatest impression on me. No.4 is good too. Thanks very much for alerting us to this fine work.
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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2016, 12:37:25 PM »
I'll have to check this guy out in more detail - some day.  But in the meantime, he be dead! Time to adjust the subject of the topic to reflect this, and merge with the later thread started by Weiland ......

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2016, 10:24:45 PM »
Re the Symphony No.8, this is driving me nuts, which Bach fugue is it he quotes towards the end? I can't think which one it is.


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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2017, 01:50:59 PM »
And does anyone know what the words in the Symphony No.6 are?

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2017, 02:25:54 PM »
And another thing, I've just realised that the theme that begins the 8th Symphony, and which also occurs, or variants of it do, in his other works, is very similar to the main theme of Tapiola.

Eshpai makes his theme a bit more liturgical-sounding, but I think it has the same function, viz signifying the forests and the natural world generally.

I guess most probably this is a conscious reference by Eshpai, less likely I suppose is the notion that it might be a common Ugric melodic motif, descending into both Mari and Finnish folkmusic and used unconsciously by both composers!

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2017, 06:29:37 PM »
Interesting new composer I have to check out    :)

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2017, 12:21:48 PM »
I guess most probably this is a conscious reference by Eshpai, less likely I suppose is the notion that it might be a common Ugric melodic motif, descending into both Mari and Finnish folkmusic and used unconsciously by both composers!

While the Mari language and Finnish are related, there isn’t really any such thing as "Finno-Ugric music". All Uralic peoples tend to have music that is more similar to their non-Uralic-speaking neighbours than to distant Uralic relatives. (Much the same way as musicologists ridiculed the “Celtic music” tag in the 1990s as meaningless marketing.) If you are interested further, I’d point you to the introduction of Bereczki & Vikár's collection Cheremis Folksongs, as well as the introductions to the other collections of folksongs from the Volga-Kama area that they put out in the ’60s and ’70s.

As for the words in Esphai’s Symphony No.6, if you can provide text, I can translate them.

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2017, 01:44:51 PM »
While the Mari language and Finnish are related, there isn’t really any such thing as "Finno-Ugric music". All Uralic peoples tend to have music that is more similar to their non-Uralic-speaking neighbours than to distant Uralic relatives. (Much the same way as musicologists ridiculed the “Celtic music” tag in the 1990s as meaningless marketing.) If you are interested further, I’d point you to the introduction of Bereczki & Vikár's collection Cheremis Folksongs, as well as the introductions to the other collections of folksongs from the Volga-Kama area that they put out in the ’60s and ’70s.

As for the words in Esphai’s Symphony No.6, if you can provide text, I can translate them.

I wasn't really being serious, though I would have thought that the folk-music of Finland and the area across to the Urals might share similarities (have the same preferred modes or scales or whatever).

Fraid I don't have the words for the Sixth, I 've just heard them.

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2017, 08:52:43 PM »
So just for clarity, Eshpai has composed eight or nine symphonies?

The work list that starts this thread lists nine (although we apparently have the charming aberration of no 9 having been composed before no 8).  But the link to no 8 at the top of this page describes it as his last symphony.  Which, come to think of it, I guess it is....if, in fact, no 9 was composed first....

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Re: Andrej Eshpai (1925 - 2015)
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2017, 10:52:53 PM »
I understand that the 8th and the 9th were composed in the order 9.... 8

Confusing.

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