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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1020 on: May 15, 2018, 05:38:31 AM »
Errr, I only see 41 - an inside joke?  $:) $:)

Maybe the pagination differs, depending on how/whence one views the forum?


(Here on my desktop, my post has just started off p.52....)
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1021 on: May 15, 2018, 05:41:10 AM »
Mmm, the symphonies (esp 1, 2 and 4) and Helios Overture, but I'm not a Nielsen junkie (yet). I have had my eyes on the quartets for a while.....     :-\

No love for the 3rd or 5th symphonies? ??? Nielsen’s SQs are ‘okay’ --- nothing really special. The best chamber work he wrote is the Wind Quintet, although I do like his Violin Sonata No. 2 a good bit.
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1022 on: May 15, 2018, 05:43:35 AM »
Maybe the pagination differs, depending on how/whence one views the forum?


(Here on my desktop, my post has just started off p.52....)

Yep, we’re now up to 52 pages, which is cool. 8)
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1023 on: May 15, 2018, 05:46:34 AM »
Errr, I only see 41 - an inside joke?  $:)  $:)
Well it's your own fault if you change the settings so that you view 25 posts, instead of the default 20, per page..
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1024 on: May 15, 2018, 05:51:41 AM »
Frankly, I’m tired of hearing about all this number of pages stuff...let’s get back to the composer, shall we?
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1025 on: May 15, 2018, 05:52:15 AM »
I think practically all the chamber music expert.

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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1026 on: May 15, 2018, 06:10:26 AM »
Well it's your own fault if you change the settings so that you view 25 posts, instead of the default 20, per page..

Ooops, I didn't even know. He he!  $:)

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« Reply #1027 on: May 15, 2018, 06:19:05 AM »
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1028 on: May 15, 2018, 06:21:23 AM »
Peter, you’ve got to to give the 3rd, 5th, and 6th symphonies some more of your time. I threw in the 6th because I believe it’s one of his finest symphonies. The 1st, 2nd, and 4th are actually my least favorite of the symphonic cycle. Also, check out the concerti. The Clarinet Concerto and the Flute Concerto are, to be quite blunt, extraordinary. The Violin Concerto is quite good, too, but is a bit more ‘traditional’ sounding, but it has an interesting structure and I absolutely adore the last movement --- such fun!
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1029 on: May 15, 2018, 06:32:22 AM »
Peter, you’ve got to to give the 3rd, 5th, and 6th symphonies some more of your time. I threw in the 6th because I believe it’s one of his finest symphonies. The 1st, 2nd, and 4th are actually my least favorite of the symphonic cycle. Also, check out the concerti. The Clarinet Concerto and the Flute Concerto are, to be quite blunt, extraordinary. The Violin Concerto is quite good, too, but is a bit more ‘traditional’ sounding, but it has an interesting structure and I absolutely adore the last movement --- such fun!

So much to explore...  :P
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1030 on: May 15, 2018, 06:37:31 AM »
So much to explore...  :P

I know the feeling, but if Nielsen’s 3rd or 5th don’t do anything for you, then I’ll have to just say you’re not a fan of his music. That’s how confident I am that you’ll enjoy both of these symphonies immensely if you give them a chance. These are two pinnacle works of his oeuvre. If you don’t feel a musical lightning bolt hit you in the last movement of the 5th, then I’m going to wonder if we’re even listening to the same composer. ;) Bernstein is your man in both of these symphonies. It doesn’t get any better, IMHO.
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1031 on: May 15, 2018, 06:40:04 AM »
Ooops, I didn't even know. He he!  $:)

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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1032 on: May 15, 2018, 01:40:20 PM »
I know the feeling, but if Nielsen’s 3rd or 5th don’t do anything for you, then I’ll have to just say you’re not a fan of his music.

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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1033 on: May 15, 2018, 11:44:34 PM »
Here’s a question for the other Nielsenites here, how’s Douglas Bostock’s cycle? I’ve read some mixed reviews on his set. Some enjoy it, some say it’s underpowered, some complain about the audio quality, etc., so what’s the lowdown? Recommended?

Has anyone chimed in on this yet? It's one of the cycles I don't have, so I can't speak to it... but I, too, would be interested what people thought its merits might be. (My favorites are Schmidt and Gilbert, at this point... although I suspect that Gilbert treats Nielsen a bit like Colin Davis did Sibelius in Boston.)

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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1034 on: May 16, 2018, 12:05:51 AM »
I find at all right, unexceptional.  My opinion is, that one needn't go out of one's way for it.
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1035 on: May 17, 2018, 05:08:34 AM »
Has anyone chimed in on this yet? It's one of the cycles I don't have, so I can't speak to it... but I, too, would be interested what people thought its merits might be. (My favorites are Schmidt and Gilbert, at this point... although I suspect that Gilbert treats Nielsen a bit like Colin Davis did Sibelius in Boston.)

The general consensus, from what I’ve read, seems to be that Bostock isn’t great, but serviceable, which doesn’t really sound like a ringing endorsement to me. :)
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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1036 on: May 29, 2018, 05:47:52 AM »
Has anyone chimed in on this yet? It's one of the cycles I don't have, so I can't speak to it... but I, too, would be interested what people thought its merits might be. (My favorites are Schmidt and Gilbert, at this point... although I suspect that Gilbert treats Nielsen a bit like Colin Davis did Sibelius in Boston.)
Meaning what exactly?

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« Reply #1037 on: May 29, 2018, 10:28:12 AM »
Meaning what exactly?

Souped-up post-romanticism, Richard-Straussesque... ironing out some of the kinks; presenting a lush harmonic jungle from a safe distance... delectable and easy to consume.

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Re: Carl Nielsen
« Reply #1038 on: May 30, 2018, 12:00:26 AM »
If Gilbert does that . . . it is truly as great a disservice to Nielsen as to Sibelius.
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« Reply #1039 on: May 30, 2018, 12:14:02 AM »
If Gilbert does that . . . it is truly as great a disservice to Nielsen as to Sibelius.

You are right to posit this with an if. But let's assume there is a reasonable aspect to the point I am making (i.e. other listeners can appreciated it - the point, that is), then I would posit in turn with the question of whether Colin Davis' Boston set was a disservice to Sibelius. I think it has done LOTS to popularize Sibelius and to little or no detriment as far as I can tell.

I, for one, REALLY like the Gilbert Nielsen recordings, without thinking that they are doing what Mahlerian thinks Karajan was doing to Mahler's Sixth.  ;D

Or perhaps I'm wrong or expressed myself clumsily.  ::)