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« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2018, 12:46:57 AM »
Batiashvili, Fischer, Frang and Zimmermann: clearly Zurich has excellent programming.

The Frang chambermusic programme looks very interesting. In chambermusic you can often observe the soloist more closely, and hear different music, while the concert programming seems to be narrowing down to fewer and fewer pieces.

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« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2018, 07:51:40 AM »
Batiashvili, Fischer, Frang and Zimmermann: clearly Zurich has excellent programming.

The Frang chambermusic programme looks very interesting. In chambermusic you can often observe the soloist more closely, and hear different music, while the concert programming seems to be narrowing down to fewer and fewer pieces.
You have a point there, of course. But those pieces I heard were - all but the Arensky string trio - in lager settings (string quintet and octet), and of course it was possible to hear the contributions by each of the musicians to some extent, but then again gladly Frang didn't act as the star at all (Lawrence Power and Nicolas Altstaedt were on stage, too - so that made three stars minimum, but it was all about playing *together*).

On the other hand, the Chiaroscuro Quartet left me puzzled quite a bit, with Alina Ibragimova being too much the star, instead of the prima inter pares - at least that's how it sounded to me (the reviews were most to extremely favourable though, but I felt differently).

I've heard Isabelle Faust, Patricia Kopatchinskaja and Julia Fischer in chamber (duo, trio) settings, and all of those were marvellous occasions - and I'd really enjoy being able to hear chamber music in concert on that level much more often. But to get that, I'd have to start travelling to all those festivals I guess. And while I do some jazz festival travels regularly, I don't want to get into that as far as classical goes (I guess one such event would nix out a year of jazz festival trips, plus I don't feel at home in the audiences at classical concerts most of the time - too many people around just to be seen and be there and feel educated and all that crap ... and I'm nearing 40 and feel like a kid most of the time, around all those old people ... though the temporary relocation of Tonhalle in Zurich has helped a bit in that respect, there seem to be many more young people around, but they still will only be very few percent of the audience).

Coming up in the 2018/19 season:

Janine Jansen is the artist in residence at Tonhalle - so far not a real favourite of mine though she has made some nice recordings for sure ... will check her out several times, the one adventurous work is Anders Eliasson's "Einsame Fahrt" (aka Solitary Journey), the rest is standard rep: Sibelius (with Swedish SO/Daniel Harding), Mozart KV 219 (w/Paav Järvi), and season closing, Brahms w/Blomstedt; will be skipping the Berg, with which they kick off the new season in September, as Patricia Kopatchinskaja - now there's THE top favourite, I guess! - did that one so wonderfully with Currentzis in the season about to close now), then, Jansen will also be heard in a chamber soirée with Alexander Gavrylyuk on piano (R. Schumann Op. 105, C. Schumann Op. 22, Brahms Op. 100 and the Franck sonata!)

Julia Fischer playing the Britten concerto (with Juanjo Mena conducting)

Patricia Kopatchinskaja will perform a Vivaldi programme with Il Giardino Armonico (RV 191, RV 253 "La tempesta di mare", RV 208 "Grosso Mogul" on the menu, they'll intersperse contemporary pieces and she'll do a Scelsi solo piece, too, "L'âme ouverte"), also travelling to Basel (1 hour by train) to hear her play "Die Leier des Orpheus" by Sofia Gubaidulina (Kammerochester Basel/Heinz Holliger - saw the PatKop/Holliger comination in Lucerne last summer with the Holliger concerto, and that was quite something!)

The chamber soirée with Lisa Batiashvili, Gautier Capuçon and Jean-Yves Thibaudet will consist of the first Shosti trio, the second Mendelssohn trio and the Ravel trio.

Also just bought a ticket for my first live exposure to Carolin Widmann, who will play Dieter Ammann's "unbalanced instability" with Musikkollegium Winterthur, which is headed by Thomas Zehetmair, whom I've not seen on stage either ... alas it seems around here he focuses on conducting and does rarely every play (he, after all, made the ECM studio recording of the Holliger concerto with the composer conducting).

Finally, again in Zurich, but with Zurich Chamber Orchestra (instead of Tonhalle), I've got tickets for Enrico Onofri (Sammartini, Galuppi etc.) and Fabio Biondi (Mozart and some italian stuff ... not sure any actual concero will be included this time, but both will be concertmaster/conductor).

So the upcoming season will again offer plenty of great violinists! And Kopatchinskaja, Widmann (of whom I don't know that many recordings yet - Feldmann, Schumann, some Schubert, some 20c solo stuff) and Fischer are among my faves, and let's see how my estimation of Jansen will evolve with those four gigs!
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Re: Greatest living violinists
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2018, 11:56:57 AM »
As the supreme leader of this thread, I have to confess that I have not delved very far into this, but instead have reverted into my old ways by acquiring Gioconda de Vito and Leonid Kogan boxes (among many other things). I DID hear Isabelle Faust on the radio recently and did enjoy the performance a great deal (don't remember the piece at this point). What are her best recordings? Julia Fischer has also been on my list for a long time now. The other ones I will look into--even if only some of the youtube links provided. Thanks minions.  :laugh:

 
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« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »
For Faust, why not start with solo Bach? Also her recent recording of the Bach harpsichord w/violin sonatas with Kristian Bezuidenhout is wonderful. Concerto-wise, I'm less sure ... I've heard her do the Schumann twice and she owns it, but I don't feel the recording comes close to the better of the two live performances I've heard (Zürcher Kammerochester/Norrington). Her Mozart recordings w/Antonini I need to revisit soon ...

One disc I've skipped is the Mendelssohn, as I heard exactly that programme in concert and didn't like it much - big disappointment as it was my first time hearing the beloved Mendelssohn concerto live, and then with a favoured soloist. This week will hear Julia Fischer play it (with Tonhalle/Blomstedt) and am quite positive it will be much more to my liking.
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« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2018, 03:33:53 PM »
I haven't heard that much of Faust, but I was very impressed with her Bartok, but did not at all like her HIP playing in the Schumann Piano Trio No. 3.
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« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2018, 09:27:05 PM »
As the supreme leader of this thread, I have to confess that I have not delved very far into this, but instead have reverted into my old ways by acquiring Gioconda de Vito and Leonid Kogan boxes (among many other things). I DID hear Isabelle Faust on the radio recently and did enjoy the performance a great deal (don't remember the piece at this point). What are her best recordings? Julia Fischer has also been on my list for a long time now. The other ones I will look into--even if only some of the youtube links provided. Thanks minions.  :laugh:

Kogan and De Vito are definitely not Living Violinists, and Perlman, whom you mentioned in your Supreme Opening Post, has been over the hill since the early eighties (never a really great violinist anyway, just like Stern: very well connected; excellent instruments, but ultimately no Milstein or Oistrakh).

The advantage of these younger violinists is of course the repertoire they're playing (some of them). They're obliged to do the Tchaikovksy and Brahms and Mendelssohn, but all of them have recorded the Berg and the best of them do chamber music and solo stuff you can access on youtube.

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Re: Greatest living violinists
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2018, 10:08:54 AM »
I haven't heard that much of Faust, but I was very impressed with her Bartok, but did not at all like her HIP playing in the Schumann Piano Trio No. 3.
Indeed, her Bartók is mighty good - forgot about that. Also the Berg/Beethoven disc w/Abbado is pretty good.
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« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2018, 10:32:04 AM »
Of current lot I like Kavakos, Suwanai and Faust and was recently pretty impressed with Benjamin Schmid, whom I managed somehow to never hear before.

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« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »
I'm surprised that the Italian violinist, Uto Ughi, hasn't been mentioned on this thread.  Like Yehudi Menuhin & Ivry Gitlis, Ughi was a student of Georges Enesco.  In my opinion, he's one of the finest violinists of the past half century.  Like Enesco & Menuhin, Ughi's recording of the Bach Sonatas and Partitas is exceptional: https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Sonatas-Partitas-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B00000E6O3/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530121065&sr=1-1&keywords=uto+ughi+bach.  I also think highly of his Beethoven, Brahms, Bruch, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Tartini, and Mozart--especially in collaboration with Wolfgang Sawallisch (accompanying Ughi on the piano and as a conductor), conductor Georges Prêtre, and pianist Maria Tipo, etc..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifCkDm7qGc&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbVy2886Kok&frags=pl%2Cwn

Sony's 18 CD Ughi box set is a treasure in my collection:
https://www.amazon.it/Vari-Uto-Ughi-Collection-18/dp/B00L5TERG8/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1530064449&sr=8-11&keywords=uto+ughi

There's also a wonderful, now hard to find recording of Mozart Violin Sonatas with pianist Maria Tipo, which Ughi made early in his career.  Unfortunately, it isn't included in the Sony box set:

https://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Sonate-TIPO-MARIA-2014-07-01/dp/B01KAQL3CC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530086957&sr=8-1&keywords=B01KAQL3CCh
https://www.amazon.it/Mozart-Sonate-TIPO-MARIA-2014-07-01/dp/B01KAQL3CC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530064526&sr=1-1&keywords=uto+ughi+maria+tipo

It would be most welcome if a record label would reissue any other early recordings that Ughi made with Tipo, as well as his early complete set of Beethoven Violin Sonatas 1-10, which has only been issued on LP.

Another fine Italian violinist is Salvatore Accardo, who's made excellent recordings of Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Paganini, Bruch, and many fine chamber music recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrtMWZaVP3Q&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOvBUaqYXkA&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w3OOtQjICw&list=PL-EbSmbfX83xyNUHmeEKpIvbjZwtLBSx1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrZ2hxYl2YY&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblB2-y23Dc&list=PLFBdeo2Gjj9YKwC7aSkXejUnWKftF4k2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mW1Npkn71Q&list=PLMsuWEiubwAAaYqmyW44CT0nzEMkaKdH5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EivePCWQn2Y&frags=pl%2Cwn

In addition, Italy has given us some of the finest period violinists of our time, such as Stefano Montanari, Enrico Gatti, Enrico Casazza, Enrico Onofri, Chiara Banchini, Riccardo Minasi, Fabio Biondi, and Giuliano Carmignola.

Giuliano Carmignola:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U1Kh1fvhZg&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Quattro-Stagioni-Antonio/dp/B002RWOS1Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530115010&sr=1-2&keywords=vivaldi+divox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dlucC7W_to&frags=pl%2Cwn

Stefano Montanari:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-zcX-_WJsg&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_e8TVDQzwA&frags=pl%2Cwn

Enrico Onofri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWa17upsJM&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MgeBZGJ2c&frags=pl%2Cwn

Chiara Banchini:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS8zMj8RKWs&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGcgOYa1ik&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9-I89-R1Y&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz23YUfhWlg&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btjI5-cbTgU&frags=pl%2Cwn

Enrico Gatti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_7DkQJQZh0&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4x2V0504Q&frags=pl%2Cwn

Outside of Italy, my favorite period violinists include Pablo Valetti (who has recorded one of my favorite sets of Bach Violin Sonatas, with Celine Frisch), Alina Ibragimova (who goes back and forth between period and modern instruments), Anton Steck, Reinhard Goebel, Stanley Ritchie, Monica Huggett, Helene Schmitt, Elizabeth Wallfisch, & Elizabeth Blumenstock.  I've also liked recordings by Rachel Podger, Andrew Manze, Amadine Beyer, Emlyn Ngai (a superb set of Bach Violin Sonatas, with Peter Watchorn), Florian Deuter, Jeanne Lamon, Gottried von der Goltz, Petra Mülljeans, and the pioneering violinists, Sigiswald Kuijken, Simon Standage, & Jaap Schroeder.

Pablo Valetti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdMD5xiUtE&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXYq4_8rHiQ&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.amazon.com/Violin-Sonatas-Johann-Sebastian-Bach/dp/B0007IO6UU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530115388&sr=1-1&keywords=bach+violin+sonatas+celine+frisch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7B-q8_aTA4&frags=pl%2Cwn

Alina Ibragimova:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6UzbeuKNc&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZkTNlBfZp0&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-LiPWusrI&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88sE-f-2BE0&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwX0V8z_p7Y&list=PLpDxnX_DO0sABFmm9dZ64ecSmPy8aBtuB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF_YL31b6S8&list=PLRihoCzcrzl4rQhWIx5BjSHNg8wNYGwCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD77t2nml4E&list=PLVkWM5KgSiB88NDU74FbTLuWxv53uk0uf
https://www.amazon.com/Ysaye-Sonatas-Solo-Violin-Nos-1-6/dp/B00UKNOI8M/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530115698&sr=1-1&keywords=ibragimova+ysaye
https://www.amazon.com/Ravel-Complete-Music-Violin-Sonata/dp/B00570JXYC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530115721&sr=1-1&keywords=ibragimova+ravel

Reinhard Goebel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-SrUZUluU&frags=pl%2Cwn

Anton Steck:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg8sqcKx7Ok&list=PL2X39cKfWn3WzafJXSyxPFpFhZPD7W68G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFbdtSfWz9Q&list=PLMBaNDa84JVK1HIhUyBORItb1yEgPzOBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IWYKwZ67bQ&list=PLLxxT0NOFDtepw2LncVe7-iyi955TR1oP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMO6sceJlLM&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zo-_IpJ64&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Bm_FzsCjo&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UJz90T4L34&frags=pl%2Cwn

Helene Schmitt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCJIa7NtAH4&list=PLWSsX13AUAHiAFAs73XI3sXT18mHPpxzB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-MIpQHxzH4&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz5i_0nr2YM&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWNoNQfb_FY&frags=pl%2Cwn

Stanley Ritchie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1t4kV87jQM&list=PLMhGvl_UiWlnWBXnjjnNbnI7BlovSWHWh

Amadine Beyer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tzxPYOZ-Ec&frags=pl%2Cwn

Elizabeth Blumenstock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfoPVO4BsM&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzUdwPqB3hs&frags=pl%2Cwn

Rachel Podger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xIP67aVUiQ&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdXZFah4n5k&list=PLXWY_9GeilGLkQbpiobKqx9JN0auu6Zex

For me, and I hope others, it has been of great value that so many period violinists today have significantly expanded the recorded violin repertory (& the concert stage repertory, as well), especially in music from the Baroque era (allowing for many wonderful new discoveries, and interesting explorations).

Apart from the many wonderful female period violinists mentioned above, there are also a great many excellent women violinists playing on modern instruments today: such as Lisa Batiashvili, Alina Ibragimova, Viktoria Mullova (who like Ibragimova, plays on both modern and period bows & strings), Leila Josefowicz, Julia Fischer (excellent Mozart VCs), Baiba Skride (excellent recording of Frank Martin's VC), Vilde Frang, Elina Vähälä, Isabelle van Keulen (excellent in Pettersson's 2nd VC), Hilary Hahn, Isabelle Faust, Julia Schroeder, Patricia Kopatchinskaja, Kyung Wha Chung, Sayaka Shoji, Anne-Sophie Mutter, Christina Åstrand (excellent in Norgard & Ligeti VCs), Rebecca Hirsch, Nicola Benedetti, Miriam Fried, Janine Jansen, Simone Lamsma, Lara St. John, etc., along with a great from the past, Ida Haendel.

A number of these women violinists have actively commissioned and/or premiered important new violin concertos by contemporary composers--such as Lisa Batiashvili's brilliant! world premiere recording of Magnus Lindberg's VC, Leila Josefowicz's recordings of violin concertos by Oliver Knussen and Esa-Pekka Salonen, Elina Vähälä playing Jaakko Kuusisto's VC, Rebecca Hirsch's premieres of Poul Ruder's 2nd VC, Bent Sørensen's VC, and Per Nørgård 2nd VC "Borderlines", etc. etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGLJ_YZbiYc&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMp7CJ__mAk&list=RDvGLJ_YZbiYc&index=2&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n0kZc3Utpc&frags=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EERnLswXXBM&frags=pl%2Cwn

Among living male violinists playing on modern violins (bows & strings), the following should be mentioned: Gidon Kremer, Pekka Kuusisto, Ulf Wallin (whose Schumann recordings are excellent), Christian Tetzlaff, Jean-Jacques Kantorow (who Glenn Gould once raved about), Frank Peter Zimmerman, György Pauk, Barnabás Kelemen (who's excellent in Bartok), Gil Shaham, Thomas Zehetmair, Corey Cerovsek, Sergey Khachatryan, Sasha Rozhdestvensky, Leonidas Kavakos, Vadim Repin, Dmitri and Alexander Sitkovetsky, Arve Tellefsen (a fine Sibelius VC with Berglund), Elmar Oliveira (the finest Barber VC I've heard), Jaime Laredo, David Grimal, Maxim Vengerov (now retired?), Kristóf Baräti, Renaud Capuçon, Itzhak Perlman, Augustin Dumay, Henning Kraggerud, Ivry Gitlis, Joshua Bell, Pierre Fouchenneret, Shlomo Mintz (excellent in the music of Prokofiev), etc..

From where I'm standing, the future of the violin looks bright.
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« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2018, 10:59:53 AM »
Greatest living violinists.....

What about considering Sigiswald Kuijken, Enrico Gatti, François Fernandez, Amandine Beyer, Fabio Biondi, Enrico Onofri, Giuliano Carmignola?

I would nominate Sigiswald Kuijken & Enrico Gatti. :)

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PS I see that Josquin13 beat me to it, some interesting names I didn't mention...
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« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2018, 04:18:50 PM »
I really like Biondi's sound.

Susan Krysia Osostowicz has greatly impressed me on records, but she seems to have mostly stuck to chamber music.  (Oops, my original post gave her Susan Tomes first name because they are so often associated together.)
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« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2018, 04:38:39 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2018, 11:01:56 PM »


I'm surprised that the Italian violinist, Uto Ughi, hasn't been mentioned on this thread.  Like Yehudi Menuhin & Ivry Gitlis, Ughi was a student of Georges Enesco.

I watched Ughi's late nineties Beethoven Cto. It took a while to get used to Ughi's massive, continuous vibrato. His "don't ever let on there's orchestra there" attitude kind of surprised me in this concerto.

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« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2018, 12:37:18 AM »
some more comments on Josquin's excellent, extensive post: somehow I have never warmed to Alina Abragimova. Ulf Wallin is also quite good in the CPO series dedicated to that popular German tunesmith, Max Reger.

Maybe you forgot to mention Liza Fershtmann, who perhaps has the misfortune of having to be yet another excellent Dutch female violinist  -  how many of those can the market handle?

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« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2018, 03:18:27 AM »
Only one for me.

Most know on other forums (and those that know me on here will be groaning) that it's Joshua Bell.

Love the way he performs with intensity and feeling.

Was introduced to him by a friend three years ago(a year after I took up classical music seriously) 

Saw him live for first time recently. Met him afterwards too and he was really nice. Needless to say, ended up with a crush on him lol.

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« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2018, 09:44:50 AM »
No love for Irvine?  Has any living player done more for contemporary music?
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« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2018, 06:13:40 PM »

I watched Ughi's late nineties Beethoven Cto. It took a while to get used to Ughi's massive, continuous vibrato. His "don't ever let on there's orchestra there" attitude kind of surprised me in this concerto.

Yes, Ughi is 'old school'.  That's one of the reasons why he probably hasn't had as high a profile career as he deserved.  His playing is unapologetically non 'HIP'.  And yes, he has a bigger, more robust sound than you'll find with some of the more pinched sounding period violinists, or more delicate sounding female violinists today--many of whom don't have a large projection in the concert hall; at least, not when compared to the violinists of the past, who did it without microphones. 

Ughi's vibrato doesn't bother me.  I find him quite lyrical and he has a beautiful tone.  I think he's a violinist that becomes more appreciated with further listening.  (Much like Josef Suk, who's another favorite of mine.)  But yes, few violinists play in an older style today. 

Gidon Kremer is another violinist that has fantastic projection in a large hall.  I remember when Kremer first played with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra many years ago, the orchestra members were in awe of his ability to project the most subtle nuances with ease to the back of the hall.

As for Ughi sounding separate from the orchestra, it's not a great orchestra, so what's he to do?  He's so much better than the violin section, for instance, that to some degree it's going to sound like he isn't playing with them.  He's going to stand out, in that regard. 

However, if he were performing with the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra or the Staatskapelle Dresden, etc., I expect there would be more noticeable interplay between himself and the orchestra.  But, as far as I know, those orchestras have never recorded with Ughi (foolishly so, IMO).

Ughi's RCA recording of the Beethoven VC with the London Symphony Orchestra under Sawallisch is better, but I couldn't find it on You Tube:

https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Concerto-Op-Mendelssohn-Minor/dp/B00008FN1R/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530326882&sr=1-1-fkmr1&keywords=ughi+beethoven+sawallisch

Ughi's Beethoven "Kreutzer" and "Spring" Violin Sonatas, also with Sawallisch (at the piano), have likewise grown on me over the years (as I wasn't overly crazy about them initially, but that has very much changed):

https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Sonatas-Kreutzer-Ludwig-van/dp/B004S7FYI4/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1530327052&sr=1-1&keywords=ughi+beethoven+sawallisch

But every violin lover should hear Ughi's Bach 6 Sonatas and Partitas, IMO.  They're tour de force and quite theatrical (though maybe not for the most ardent period enthusiasts).



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Re: Greatest living violinists
« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2018, 10:36:16 PM »
Yes, Ughi is 'old school'.  That's one of the reasons why he probably hasn't had as high a profile career as he deserved.  His playing is unapologetically non 'HIP'.  And yes, he has a bigger, more robust sound than you'll find with some of the more pinched sounding period violinists, or more delicate sounding female violinists today--many of whom don't have a large projection in the concert hall; at least, not when compared to the violinists of the past, who did it without microphones. 

Ughi's vibrato doesn't bother me.  I find him quite lyrical and he has a beautiful tone.  I think he's a violinist that becomes more appreciated with further listening.  (Much like Josef Suk, who's another favorite of mine.)  But yes, few violinists play in an older style today. 



I agree, as far as one can tell from a youtube, Ughi has a beautiful tone.

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« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2018, 05:05:36 PM »
There are many great "younger" violinists out there - I'd particularly single out Janine Jansen, a phenomenally expressive musician, especially in chamber music. I'm also a great fan of James Ehnes and Arabella Steinbacher, among others.
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Re: Greatest living violinists
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2018, 11:24:07 AM »
There are many great "younger" violinists out there - I'd particularly single out Janine Jansen, a phenomenally expressive musician, especially in chamber music.
She'll be artist in residence at Tonhalle next season ... I've got tickets for three or four concerts. As I remain to be fully convinced, based on the few recordings I know, I am all the more curious (and I so much love the violin repertoire, even if I won't be fully convinced after, all will be fine  :) )
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