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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2015, 05:16:25 PM »
Well, to cut it down to six SEVEN* or so, his Violin Concerto, Piano Trio, The Nutcracker, The Sleeping Beauty, Manfred Symphony, Piano Concerto No.1 and the sixth symphony.  But as the greatest Russian composer (watches as M.I.'s spleen bursts, and he falls into the fetal position to die a 'orrible, excruciating death), there is so, so much more.  His incidental music, for instance, is always satisfying.

* Went mad there for a second. How could I leave off one of three greatest violin concertos (along with Beethoven's and Brahms')??  Mondays - they kill me.

Like Jeffrey, I prefer the later Russians to Tchaikovsky. I suppose a lot of it has to do with the harsher political environment that say Prokofiev and Shostakovich (and later Schnittke) had to compose under that helped 'shape' their music. I really can't put my finger on it but I think these particular Russians tapped into an emotional world that other composers still writing in a Romantic style couldn't hardly relate to or even fathom. This hostile environment really gave birth to so many composers I admire and, of course, I'm talking about the branches from the USSR as well like Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia. etc. where the Soviet takeover really forced many composers to create some of their most mind-numblingly powerful work in secret. It seems this kind of pressure caused many of them to be even more individualistic. Of course, some composers like Mosolov or Popov, etc. weren't so lucky. Anyway...what were we talking about again? ;)
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2015, 05:24:18 PM »
I suppose I should say which ones I think are great.
The last three symphonies*, the violin concerto, Souvenir de Florence, the Mozartiana suite, Romeo and Juliet, Francesca da Rimini.

*in non sugary performances. My overall favorite recording is Solti's Fourth.

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2015, 05:25:41 PM »
Good choices, from what little I know (so far).

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2015, 06:41:02 PM »
Piano Trio
Serenade for Strings
Symphonies Nos. 1 and 6
Manfred
Orchestral Suites

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2015, 10:32:25 PM »
the Mozartiana suite,

[referring to the symphonies] *in non sugary performances. My overall favorite recording is Solti's Fourth.
I seriously doubt that non-sugary performances of the Mozartiana are possible...
I think there are great things in the 4th and 5th symphonies (and also the violin concerto) but they also have passages or whole movements I can hardly take anymore. A few years ago I thought I had overcome the repulsion some of Tchaikovsky's music had acquired for me but I found that I still could not stand to listen to e.g. the 4th or 5th symphony twice in an afternoon for comparison purposes. The inner movements of the 5th can be sickly sweet at times, the finale spoils the effect by turning to the major mode right in the beginning which makes the "wild hunt" of the remaining movement rather moot.
In the 4th I quite like the first 3 movements (despite the annoyingly pretentious "fatum" fanfare), the pizzicato scherzo is really brilliant fun, but the finale is a shallow noisy mess in my ears.

So if I had to pick favorites, I'd probably go with

6th symphony
Souvenir de Florence
String serenade
b flat minor piano concerto
1st symphony
Francesca da Rimini (probably my favorite of the shorter orchestral pieces but I am not sure I ever heard "the Voyvoda" or "Hamlet")

(Would have to re-listen to the ballets to pick a favorite, so I leave them out.)
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2015, 12:08:58 AM »
Still looking at those DVDs and CDs of Nutcracker and the other 2 ballets---quite a few performances.

If you missed it here is a thread on Tchaikovsky ballets that you can check out, there are even few posts on DVDs though this is not very dance oriented forum. Here:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,3457.msg645844.html#msg645844

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2015, 12:32:56 AM »
Serenade for Strings
Suite No. 3
Quartet No. 1 (also possibly No. 2)
The Seasons

Piano Concerto No. 2 isn't on the same level, but I wanted to mention it anyway. I used to like the 6th Symphony but am not sure I still do.

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« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2015, 01:37:58 AM »
Drasko, thanks. This site is so massive that even though I've been on it 7 years, its resources are virtually unlimited. Will check out that thread, thanks again.
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2015, 03:22:44 AM »
A Top 10, with favorite versions

Symphony No.1 "Winter Dreams" (Jurowski/LPO)
Symphony No.4 (Szell/LSO)
Symphony No.5 (Szell/Cleveland)
Symphony No.6 (Bernstein/New York DG)
Violin Concerto (Belkin/Ashkenazy/New Phil)
Piano Concerto No.2 (Cherkassky/Kraus/Berlin Phil*)
Swan Lake (Svetlanov/State Symphony)
The Nutcracker (Dorati/Concertgebouw)
Marche Slave (Ormandy/Philadelphia)
The Tempest (Abbado/Chicago)


*This is, unfortunately, the Siloti (truncated) edition but the passion of the playing, and the orchestral clarity of this 60-year-old recording, makes it my favorite despite the loss of music in the slow movement.

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2015, 03:41:29 AM »

Souvenir de Florence


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« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2015, 03:42:18 AM »
. . . Anyway...what were we talking about again? ;)

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2015, 03:43:14 AM »
String Sextet - Souvenir de Florence

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2015, 03:56:46 AM »
In terms of which version of the ballets on cd, I'd go with:
Nutcracker: Mackerras or Ashkenazy
Swan Lake: Dutoit
Sleeping Beuaty: Gergiev or Rozhdestvensky
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2015, 04:03:15 AM »
Thank you---my revised favorites list:

Piano Trio, Op. 50
Serenade for Strings
the 3 ballets
Souvenir de Florence

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2015, 04:46:17 AM »
And of course: Ray in reply #1 !!!  0:)

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2015, 04:51:43 AM »
I wanted to mention another lovely Tchaikovsky work.

Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Op. 41
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2015, 05:00:27 AM »
Anyway...what were we talking about again? ;)

We were just chatting among ourselves while waiting for you to chime in.  ;D
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2015, 05:31:49 AM »
I don't really like listening to Tchaikovsky, here is a list of the composers I prefer . . . .

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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2015, 05:39:51 AM »
I don't really like listening to Tchaikovsky, here is a list of the composers I prefer . . . .

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Hey! Jeffrey started it! ;) ;D Oh, and I did mention my favorite Tchaikovsky work: Symphony No. 6. :)
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Re: Your Favorite Tchaikovsky Pieces
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2015, 05:42:17 AM »
You did say "the greatest Russian composer".  😈

I think PITch. wrote a large number of excellent works, a couple of great symphonies and concertos, and is overall very listenable.  But I rarely " connect" with his music in the way I do with later Russians, like Rachmaninov, Prokofiev, and above all Shostakovich.

PITch. also has the handicap of me having heard his symphonies only in performances that could induce diabetic comas, so sugary were they.  Dudamel's Fifth was the first performance of that work that made me want to hear it again.

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