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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2016, 07:10:06 PM »





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Thanks for this! I'll look this guy up....has he performed with NYPO? :)

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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2016, 07:14:52 PM »
....has he performed with NYPO? :)



Don't know for sure.  I'd guess not.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2016, 07:17:55 PM »


Don't know for sure.  I'd guess not.
He has conducted New York City Opera.....unfortunately I can't find much to listen to of his conducting. Oh well. I was hoping to listen to stuff for, yet another conductor that comes from the USA because I don't know many at all.

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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2016, 07:18:05 PM »
God help us if this becomes "the new normal."  Either that, or a Music Director leading the organization 23% of the year.  (Twelve weeks? Seriously?  Nice work, if you can get it.)

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This is and has been a 'new kind of normal,' and it is not enough, imo, to either better, shape up and tune a good band into a great one, or enough to keep any orchestra in a groove of one leader's sensibility for that band to have its more distinctive sound.

The in demand and higher-paid conductor is often enough jetting about the globe, I'm sure for the conductor not only engaging, somewhat exhausting, but also lucrative. Salaries have to include first-class air transport, an upscale condo or home in each location, etc. This ramps up the budget expenditures of many an orchestra not in the greatest of economic shape to begin with.

The only way to change that it is for orchestral organizations to change the requirement when hiring, i.e. the job be near to full time during the full season, with a handful of allowances for the prime conductor to guest conduct elsewhere.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2016, 07:19:37 PM »
James Conlon never got a major gig in the US and he's American. But that may be more due to the fact that he prefers to work in Europe.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2016, 07:22:42 PM »


Don't know for sure.  I'd guess not.

If you think he has, there's a bridge I could sell you.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2016, 07:25:55 PM »
If you think he has, there's a bridge I could sell you.

I assume it ain't dental...
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2016, 07:26:30 PM »
Oh well. I was hoping to listen to stuff for, yet another conductor that comes from the USA because I don't know many at all.



James Levine, Leonard Slatkin, Kent Nagano, Michael Tilson Thomas, Dennis Russell Davies, Marin Alsop, Alan Gilbert, David Robertson . . .
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2016, 07:58:57 PM »
I haven't yet explored Gardner's recordings. I've planned to ever since I started liking the Brits a little more......

I'd say Gardner is more of a specialist in 20th Century music, but, like I said, his repertoire is spread out and is still growing. He's still one to watch for sure. Has had a successful career as an opera conductor as well in the UK.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2016, 08:20:08 PM »
I assume it ain't dental...

No, only Brooklyn.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2016, 08:26:30 PM »


James Levine, Leonard Slatkin, Kent Nagano, Michael Tilson Thomas, Dennis Russell Davies, Marin Alsop, Alan Gilbert, David Robertson . . .
That's about how much I know actually :laugh:
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2016, 02:36:48 AM »
No, only Brooklyn.

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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2016, 02:43:35 AM »
This is and has been a 'new kind of normal,' and it is not enough, imo, to either better, shape up and tune a good band into a great one, or enough to keep any orchestra in a groove of one leader's sensibility for that

The only way to change that it is for orchestral organizations to change the requirement when hiring, i.e. the job be near to full time during the full season, with a handful of allowances for the prime conductor to guest conduct elsewhere.
Ah - but we want names, big names, or else we stay at home with our streaming services instead of going to concerts!

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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2016, 03:53:44 AM »
A tooth grows in Brooklyn.

Another grows in Manhattan, thus the bridge...
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2016, 04:10:20 AM »
Ah - but we want names, big names, or else we stay at home with our streaming services instead of going to concerts!

Fair enough, but when those concerts are costing $100 or more, not to mention transportation and dinner, you can hardly blame us. Someone after all has to subsidize the maestro's upscale homes and first-class airfare.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2016, 04:12:37 AM »
I can't think of any Native American conductors, can you? 8)
JoAnn Falletta
Alondra de la Parra (American-Mexican, she was born in US, but lives in Mexico)
Anne Manson (not many recordings, and I think most are Philip Glass)
Laura Jackson
Robert Spano
Andrew Litton
Keith Lockhart
Joshua Bell (not really sure how he does, but he is head of Academy of St Martin in the Fields)
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2016, 04:30:29 AM »
Fair enough, but when those concerts are costing $100 or more, not to mention transportation and dinner, you can hardly blame us. Someone after all has to subsidize the maestro's upscale homes and first-class airfare.
Totally agree. And I once saw an account (in Gramohone ) of the travels, wining and dining in one month of one of DG's executives. It's a wonder I can afford one of their discs at all. Now I understand why smaller labels who sells obscure repertoire in minuscule quantitis usually manage to survive, while the "greats" (irony) who sells (or used to sell) much larger volumes of a disc struggle and get bought up.
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2016, 06:41:38 AM »
JoAnn Falletta
Alondra de la Parra (American-Mexican, she was born in US, but lives in Mexico)
Anne Manson (not many recordings, and I think most are Philip Glass)
Laura Jackson
Robert Spano
Andrew Litton
Keith Lockhart
Joshua Bell (not really sure how he does, but he is head of Academy of St Martin in the Fields)


They're Native American?
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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2016, 06:51:47 AM »
A tooth grows in Brooklyn.
Another grows in Manhattan, thus the bridge...

O.K. The two of you, stop that. Stop that right now!

However, We Have A Winner.

The Prizewinner is Springrite.

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Re: Jaap van Zweden, new NYPO director
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2016, 06:52:14 AM »

They're Native American?
If you mean born in the US/American citizens, yes. If you mean, Hopi, Pueblo, etc. than no. But I assume the poster meant the first. Who do you think isn't American?
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