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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2016, 02:22:44 AM »
Yes, but I also find his playing convincing and the sound quality overwhelming..

Two organs are used, the Isnard in St.Maxim and the Treutmann in Grauhof. Surprisingly I think the Isnard organ is the most appropiate.

Yes, I agree with you. Have you heard the Bruhns and Scheidermann he recorded?
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2016, 02:28:12 AM »
Cavazzoni and a mass published by Attaingnant.



I wonder what the Attaingnant mass is. Cavazzoni is someone who I know next to nothing about.
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2016, 02:38:49 AM »
Yes, I agree with you. Have you heard the Bruhns and Scheidermann he recorded?

Yes, the Bruhns has been one of my long-term favorites.

I have not heard his Scheidemann CD on the same organ (Norden) but ordered it to day (along with the Froberger CD).
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2016, 03:19:10 AM »
I wonder what the ATTAIGNANT MASS is.

Can be downloaded for free here:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Attaingnant,_Pierre

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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2016, 03:24:02 AM »
Can be downloaded for free here:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Attaingnant,_Pierre

Go to collections and L: Deux livres d'orgue

Excuse me, it was difficult to get the link to work, but now I think it will.

Edit: I have a recording of the second Messe (Messe Cunctipotens).
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2016, 12:23:36 PM »
Thanks for all those links Premont.

Well, given that this is a thread dedicated to organ masses, maybe this is the place to mention that I've started to listen to this vigorous and intense and luminous, ardent, solar recording, with imaginative registrations on a wonderful organ for the music. The sense of momentum forward is astonishing, but it doesn't sound driven to me. Initial impressions are, as you can see, rather positive:



(CU3 including the duetti, the Schübler chorales and the canonic variations.)

The sunniness of it, Apollo, sets it a bit apart I think, as does the pace.
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2016, 09:25:12 AM »


The above contains three masses by Girolamo Cavazzoni,  who was organist at San Marco before C. Merulo and A. Gabrieli. Played by Sergio Vartolo. The music is presented liturgically. It is wonderful, well constructed, less flamboyant than the baroque Venetian composers, and full of interesting emotional twists and turns, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that these pieces are transcriptions of improvisations, there's a feeling of spontaneous creation and a feeling of a musical response to the chant.

The more I listen to organ masses the more I feel it's important to hear the organ in alternatim. And the more I listen to Italian music, especially early Italian music, the more impressed I am.
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2016, 05:05:20 PM »
The more I read Mandryka's posts, the broke-r I am.  :'(  :laugh:
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2016, 09:32:39 PM »
The more I read Mandryka's posts, the broke-r I am.  :'(  :laugh:

You won't regret listening to it if you like Renaissance music: G Cavazzoni's style is far from baroque.
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2016, 09:47:58 PM »
I bought the Mendelssohn/Brahms discs you recommended (Gerd Zacher) and am looking forward to listening to them later tonight.

As for the Cavazzoni, I am seeing a slightly different cover on Amzon, but the contents appear identical to the one you posted:

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Re: Organ masses: Guilmant and Vierne
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2016, 04:26:54 AM »
For your consideration:

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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2016, 08:46:16 AM »
I bought the Mendelssohn/Brahms discs you recommended (Gerd Zacher) and am looking forward to listening to them later tonight.

As for the Cavazzoni, I am seeing a slightly different cover on Amzon, but the contents appear identical to the one you posted:



While you're in an ordering mood for organ masses, I'll mention that one of my favourite recordings of anything baroque is Vartolo's Fiori Musicale.

Has anyone got into the Merula Merulo masses?
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2016, 10:52:32 AM »

Has anyone got into the Merula masses?

Do you mean Merulo?
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2016, 09:27:10 PM »
Do you mean Merulo?

Yes, Merulo, I'm always making that mistake for some unknown reason. Tarquinio Merula is another composer about whom I know nothing.
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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2016, 11:41:45 AM »
I wonder what the Attaingnant mass is.

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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2016, 01:05:17 PM »
Tarquinio Merula is another composer about whom I know nothing.

He spent around 5 years at the Polish court. Among other functions, he was king's organist. Not everything he composed during the stay survives, but there's a volume of madrigals dedicated to the king, and another ("madrigaletti") to the king's son (who later was also to become king)

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Re: Organ masses: Von Suppe's Missa Dalmatica
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2016, 06:32:42 AM »
Again for your consideration: Franz Von Suppe's Missa Dalmatica.

I recall reading that Brahms was a great admirer of this composer's sacred music.

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Re: Organ masses
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2016, 12:34:32 PM »


The above CD contains Ockeghem's Sine Nomine mass with organ alternatim played by Clemencic and friends. It's good to hear it like this, in truth I find the whole CD really interesting and recommendable.  Does anyone know what the organ music is? I don't have the booklet.
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