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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2017, 03:22:33 AM »
Ok, let's try again  :D


Carre (paralleled with Gruppen for it's ecstasy, complexity, innovation,
Gruppen
Klavierstucke IX (and the whole original cycle too)
Samstag Aus Licht (my favorite piece of the whole opera cycle)
Sirius
Hymnen
Sonntag Aus Licht
Cosmic Pulses


Honorable mentions:

Mantra
Inori
Kreuzpiel
Gesang der Jünglinge
Mikrophonie 1&2
Klang
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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2017, 04:43:42 AM »
I may be committing a sacrilege by mentioning this so I will apologize in advance.

One of my favorites (out of the several hundred of my favorites) is the Mozart Clarinet Concerto.  Stockhausen composed a cadenza for the concerto. It is fantastic.  Well is seems great to me.  It is a short cadenza like it should be for a work of that period, unlike a long winded romantic cadenza.

Link to a recording of Stockhausen conducting.  The cadenza comes at the 10:50 mark of the first movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0j0d_uexo

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Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2017, 11:47:38 AM »
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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2017, 05:41:47 PM »
I may be committing a sacrilege by mentioning this so I will apologize in advance.

One of my favorites (out of the several hundred of my favorites) is the Mozart Clarinet Concerto.  Stockhausen composed a cadenza for the concerto. It is fantastic.  Well is seems great to me.  It is a short cadenza like it should be for a work of that period, unlike a long winded romantic cadenza.

Link to a recording of Stockhausen conducting.  The cadenza comes at the 10:50 mark of the first movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0j0d_uexo

Hey Arpeggio sir, since you like (from what I remember) Bartok, Stravinsky, Schoenberg and Webern, you might like Stockhausen's early works. He kind of build his own voice out of that kind of music in his formative years and as he gets further along his development as a composer, the more he starts pushing things to the limit, until he finds a perfect assimilation of everything he has done to create his own huge personal, conceptual and spiritual expression: Licht  :)

You should give those early works a try (one of them is a very "easy listening" choral work that I'm sure you'll like  :) )

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2017, 11:05:47 PM »
Probably something along the lines of...

Der Jahreslauf
Tierkreis
Mantra
Orchester Finalisten
Jubiläum
Gesang der Jünglinge
Luzifers Zorn
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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 03:50:20 AM »
Hey Arpeggio sir, since you like (from what I remember) Bartok, Stravinsky, Schoenberg and Webern, you might like Stockhausen's early works. He kind of build his own voice out of that kind of music in his formative years and as he gets further along his development as a composer, the more he starts pushing things to the limit, until he finds a perfect assimilation of everything he has done to create his own huge personal, conceptual and spiritual expression: Licht  :)

You should give those early works a try (one of them is a very "easy listening" choral work that I'm sure you'll like  :) )

Thanks.  I will give them a try  :)

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2017, 04:05:29 AM »
Thanks.  I will give them a try  :)

Here's his very first published work:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D8nDESd_DA


Enjoy it Pal, all the best!  :)

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2017, 04:20:25 PM »
Mikrophonie I
Kontakte
Kreuzspiel
Mittwoch aus Licht (particularly Welt-Parlament & Orchester-Finalisten)
Michaels Reise
Gruppen
Freude
Refrain
Klavierstück X

I go back and forth between feeling like Stockhausen is great and I just don't know enough of his work and need to know more, and feeling like Stockhausen isn't really my thing apart from a handful of pieces. Currently in the first of those stages.

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2017, 04:34:10 PM »
Mikrophonie I
Kontakte
Kreuzspiel
Mittwoch aus Licht (particularly Welt-Parlament & Orchester-Finalisten)
Michaels Reise
Gruppen
Freude
Refrain
Klavierstück X

Very cool list Amw, great to see Welt-parlament, Kontakte and Klav. X on there!  :D

I go back and forth between feeling like Stockhausen is great and I just don't know enough of his work and need to know more, and feeling like Stockhausen isn't really my thing apart from a handful of pieces. Currently in the first of those stages.

Same with me, at times I'm really really really into his music and it inspires and amazes me extraordinarily but I'm always going through different "phases" all the time though (currently listening mainly to rock, metal and jazz), but that is just how I am with music in general.
But I can say without any doubt that Karlheinz was a master of his craft, that I admire greatly  :)
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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2017, 05:01:33 PM »
I just discovered there's a whole heap of Stockhausen on youtube I should probably familiarise myself with his stuff

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2017, 05:16:34 PM »
Probably these...:

Etude (really love this one!)

Gesang der Jünglinge

Kontakte

Stimmung

Trans

Oktophonie

Luzifers Abschied

Helikopter-Streichquartett

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2017, 08:04:37 PM »
Very cool list Amw, great to see Welt-parlament, Kontakte and Klav. X on there!  :D
I think Mittwoch is my favourite of the Licht operas simply because I actually saw the livestream. Licht is probably the area of his output that I know the least about though—I've heard Montag, Dienstag and Donnerstag on CD but they are too big to absorb on one hearing.

Oh also I forgot Luzifers Zorn that someone mentioned above—like that too. It is good

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2017, 11:33:56 PM »
I think Mittwoch is my favourite of the Licht operas simply because I actually saw the livestream. Licht is probably the area of his output that I know the least about though—I've heard Montag, Dienstag and Donnerstag on CD but they are too big to absorb on one hearing.

Oh also I forgot Luzifers Zorn that someone mentioned above—like that too. It is good

Yep, Mittwoch is fantastic (and sadly unrightfully discredited for the quartet, remind you of a certain Cage situation?  >:( )

Yep, 29 hours of music is a lot to absorb, thankfully Nathanb has been somewhat of a guide to me over the years, taking each opera scene-by-scene.

Donnerstag was the first opera of Licht I ever heard (and in it's entirety) and I was blown away, but i had heard probably 5/6 of Stockhausen's earlier works prior (as I heard some of his works when I was first getting into classical).

I'm glad you like it!  :D


Samstag and Montag are probably my favorite two.

Luzifer's Tanz and Eva's Zauber are masterpieces in their own right!  8)

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2017, 11:34:23 PM »
I just discovered there's a whole heap of Stockhausen on youtube I should probably familiarise myself with his stuff

Just remember to ask!  ;)

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Re: Your Favourite Stockhausen Works?
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2017, 03:21:06 PM »
About time to refresh my list:

Gruppen (cause it's just so fucking innovative and astounding every time!)
Trans (another total masterpiece, so profound for me too)
Klavierstucke IX (The epitome of spacey piano music  ;D )
Samstag Aus Licht (in my 3 favorite operas of all time)
Inori
Hymnen
Sonntag Aus Licht
Cosmic Pulses
Mikrophonie II
Carre
Tierkreis/Musik im Bauch/Sirius (the Zodiac melody pieces)
Kurzwellen



Favorite Licht scene picks:

Luzifers Tanz (Samstag)
Lichter Wasser (Sonntag)
Welt Parlament (Mittwoch)
Evas Zauber (Montag)


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