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snyprrr

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It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« on: October 29, 2016, 08:59:19 AM »
I JUST DON'T CARE.

There's no reason (what difference, at this point, does it make?) not to have a JG Thread here. I find myself enjoying more and more of his work, and, truth be told, is probably one of the most variegated Composers out there. Am I trolling? You be the judge...

Now, to ward off any embarrassment, I will go and check if he's really responsible for what I thought he was...

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 09:13:09 AM »
My favorite bit of Goldsmith: the Klingon Battle with Vger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2016, 02:40:25 PM »
A very fine composer. I love the original 'Alien' and 'Planet of the Apes' score. Also 'Capricorn One'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2016, 04:23:47 PM »
A very fine composer. I love the original 'Alien' and 'Planet of the Apes' score. Also 'Capricorn One'.

My favorite bit of Goldsmith: the Klingon Battle with Vger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/XjlBXmn2Q0s" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/XjlBXmn2Q0s</a>


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Both Sarge and vandermolen have Endorsed this Thread, so, I don't want to hear any 'Film Music Composer' stuff from the peanut gallery! achtung!! :P

The 'Apes' score is stuck in my head. Also, I'm always seeing his name pop up when I didn't expect it to. Also, got eclectic? Maybe it's a '70s thing and some might not understand?

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 02:10:43 AM »
A vote here for the 'Black Mass' from Damien Omen II with its echoes of Carmina Burana. Actually I find Carmina Burana more scary in view of the historical circumstances of its creation!

Here's the opening:

https://youtu.be/oZmixJmXSyc

Also an admirer of the fine music for 'Tora,Tora,Tora' (an excellent film).


Great thread title by the way.  8)
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 02:21:41 AM by vandermolen »
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 09:32:56 AM »
A vote here for the 'Black Mass' from Damien Omen II with its echoes of Carmina Burana. Actually I find Carmina Burana more scary in view of the historical circumstances of its creation!

Here's the opening:

https://youtu.be/oZmixJmXSyc

Also an admirer of the fine music for 'Tora,Tora,Tora' (an excellent film).


Great thread title by the way.  8)

It's all just TOO MUCH FUN!! My favourite "TV/Film Music" stereotype are the "stacked 4ths"... maybe someone could embed an example?,... probably from 'Columbo', lol

There's also the chord that is ALWAYS used when the sleuth finds a hidden chord, usually with vibraphone going "wah wah wah wah"

Thanks for supporting this Thread! :-*

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2016, 09:38:44 AM »
His Star Trek score is superb.  Also love his Alien and Planet of the Apes.  However, two that I enjoy that usually get overlooked are his Mulan and Papillion.
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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 10:02:50 AM »
His Star Trek score is superb.  Also love his Alien and Planet of the Apes.  However, two that I enjoy that usually get overlooked are his Mulan and Papillion.

btw- Glenn Strange really looks like that, lol! Just got off a GS kick...


Must IMDb Jerry...

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2016, 11:03:26 AM »
His 'fanfares over a deserted battlefield' type music for Patton (1970) was a fine inspiration:

https://youtu.be/mu11QRO9BrQ
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2016, 11:37:55 AM »
Where to start? 8)of
Let's just say that the original movie, The Omen with the Ave, Satane! (Hail, Satan!  >:D  0:) )   chorus is a score whose recording I wore down to its barest atoms in the early '70's.



Yes, Planet of the Apes with its various effects (e.g. a percussive strumming of the interior of a piano) is an all-around fave.




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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2016, 11:54:15 AM »
Ok, I just bought this:

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2016, 02:11:55 PM »
I love his scores for Alien (1979) and the original Planet Of The Apes  :D
Me too - also his title music for 'Capricorn One' (1977) -  an underrated movie:

https://youtu.be/46DWo8LOa_s
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2016, 02:17:15 PM »
I haven't heard the entire soundtrack for Chinatown in years, but I remember that Love Theme being one of the most gorgeous things I've heard from Goldsmith.

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2016, 02:40:44 PM »
Never seen Capricorn One actually, I'll have to!  ;)

I love how in Alien, there are a combination of seemingly Penderecki-esque indeterminacy and very Messiaen-esque wind parts.
Also, pota has some very Varese sounding moments.
Both great scores that don't take the movies to enjoy  ;D
Good point about Alien. I hadn't thought of it that way but you are right. Oh yes, you have to see 'Capricorn One' - a highly entertaining adventure story with a fine performance by Elliot Gould and a great cameo from Telly Savalas.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2016, 02:41:13 PM »
I haven't heard the entire soundtrack for Chinatown in years, but I remember that Love Theme being one of the most gorgeous things I've heard from Goldsmith.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/lmOhNyitewI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/lmOhNyitewI</a>

That was a great film too.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2016, 02:47:12 PM »
Here is a live performance of the music from the original 'Omen' film. I was much amused to learn that the child who played Damien did not want to continue in movies and when he grew up got a job in the City of London and, in interview, now sounds remarkably like David Beckham the British footballer. However, I'm delighted to say that he still turns up to horror movie conventions, to sign autographs etc and accompanied by his tricycle. Wonderful!
 >:D 8)

https://youtu.be/nmOHzeTsBUM
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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2016, 02:49:51 PM »
Ok, I just bought this:



I hate you.  You mentioned this great disc before I did.  >:(

It is interesting that two of his concert works were twelve-tone.  In spite of this they still sound like Goldsmith.  ;)

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2016, 07:28:17 PM »
I just checked IMDB. Wow- very prolific. I'm sure we can uncover a hidden gem or two...

Be prepared to watch some cheezy flicks! ;)

I'd like to hear his take on 'Jaws', or something like that...

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2016, 07:31:23 PM »
I think I've triggered vandermolen here, lol!! Go get 'em, tiger!! :laugh:


(pictures vandermoldy on the floor playing model WWII with ToraToraTora on in the background)

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Re: It's Jerry Goldsmith, Baby!
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2016, 11:23:15 PM »
I hate you.  You mentioned this great disc before I did.  >:(

It is interesting that two of his concert works were twelve-tone.  In spite of this they still sound like Goldsmith.  ;)

To give additional 'legitimacy' to snyprr's interesting thread I thought I'd see if JG wrote any concert as opposed to film music and there it was, dirt cheap on Amazon UK. I liked the sound of the reviews but, unlike you, I haven't yet heard any of the pieces, so you could let us know what they are like and then you would have less cause to hate me.  ;) :)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).