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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15920 on: April 15, 2019, 03:49:50 PM »
DOJ says to expect the █████er R██or█ on Thursday


Trump Gets His First Official GOP Challenger With Bill Weld Announcement
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15923 on: April 17, 2019, 05:27:29 AM »
SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH'S COMPANY TO INVEST MILLIONS IN NEW ALUMINUM PLANT IN MITCH MCCONNELL'S STATE

"Rusal, the aluminum company partially owned by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, announced plans to invest around $200 million to build a new aluminum plant in Kentucky just months after the Trump administration removed it from the U.S. sanctions list.

The new aluminum plant, slated to be built in the home state of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, will be the biggest new aluminum plant constructed in the U.S. in decades. Rusal will have a 40 percent stake in the facility.

"Rusal, one of the leading global aluminium producers, and Braidy Industries Inc., a U.S. base holding company which owns both Veloxint, an MIT-incubated lightweighting solutions company, and NanoAl, a Northwestern University incubated materials research and technology company, announce an intent to establish a joint project in Ashland, Kentucky, USA to produce flat-rolled aluminium products for the U.S. automotive industry," according to a company press release.

The U.S. removed Rusal from its sanctions list in January, after the Treasury Department struck an agreement with the company that saw Deripaska, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, reduce his stake in the company to below 50 percent and lower his voting rights to below 35. The agreement requires the companies to report any contact between Deripaska and company affiliates, including members of the board.

McConnell was among the advocates for lifting sanctions on Rusal, arguing that the deal with Treasury would maintain pressure on Deripaska personally without disrupting global aluminum supplies."

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15924 on: April 17, 2019, 05:41:35 AM »
Barr’s Playbook: He Misled Congress When Omitting Parts of Justice Dep’t Memo in 1989

"On Friday the thirteenth October 1989, by happenstance the same day as the “Black Friday” market crash, news leaked of a legal memo authored by William Barr. He was then serving as head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). It is highly uncommon for any OLC memo to make headlines. This one did because it was issued in “unusual secrecy” and concluded that the FBI could forcibly abduct people in other countries without the consent of the foreign state. The headline also noted the implication of the legal opinion at that moment in time. It appeared to pave the way for abducting Panama’s leader, Gen. Manuel Noriega.

Members of Congress asked to see the full legal opinion. Barr refused, but said he would provide an account that “summarizes the principal conclusions.” Sound familiar? In March 2019, when Attorney General Barr was handed Robert Mueller’s final report, he wrote that he would “summarize the principal conclusions” of the special counsel’s report for the public.

When Barr withheld the full OLC opinion in 1989 and said to trust his summary of the principal conclusions, Yale law school professor Harold Koh wrote that Barr’s position was “particularly egregious.” Congress also had no appetite for Barr’s stance, and eventually issued a subpoena to successfully wrench the full OLC opinion out of the Department.

What’s different from that struggle and the current struggle over the Mueller report is that we know how the one in 1989 eventually turned out.

When the OLC opinion was finally made public long after Barr left office, it was clear that Barr’s summary had failed to fully disclose the opinion’s principal conclusions. It is better to think of Barr’s summary as a redacted version of the full OLC opinion. That’s because the “summary” took the form of 13 pages of written testimony. The document was replete with quotations from court cases, legal citations, and the language of the OLC opinion itself. Despite its highly detailed analysis, this 13-page version omitted some of the most consequential and incendiary conclusions from the actual opinion. And there was evidently no justifiable reason for having withheld those parts from Congress or the public.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15926 on: April 17, 2019, 08:30:33 PM »
Double standards on steroids: What if Fox News covered Trump the way it covered Obama?

Couldn't get it to play on that Twitter link, but I see its also on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-cZG81-MPQ

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15927 on: April 18, 2019, 01:19:14 AM »
Trump vetoes bill to end US military support for Saudi-led war in Yemen

Wow I wonder if any of those right wing pundits who praised Trump as an anti interventionist paleoconservative hero will have anything to say about this. (They won’t.)

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15928 on: April 18, 2019, 02:17:37 PM »
Meuller Report (with redactions):

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15929 on: April 18, 2019, 04:08:33 PM »
huh...I'm not hearing the crowing from the Trumpist camp that there was a couple of weeks ago

meanwhile:

North Korea rejects Pompeo from nuclear dialogue

"North Korea no longer wants U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo involved in nuclear talks, calling for someone who “is more careful and mature in communicating”, state media said on Thursday."

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15930 on: April 18, 2019, 05:23:16 PM »
Kentucky Republicans Worried Inviting AOC to Meet with Coal Miners Might Backfire

"Last month, a clip of New York representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went predictably viral after she forcefully responded to one of her colleagues on the House Financial Services Committee when he called climate change an "elitist" concern. "Wanting clean air and water is not elitist," she said.

In response, Kentucky Republican congressman Andy Barr invited Ocasio-Cortez to come meet coal miners in his state "who will tell you what the Green New Deal would mean for their families, their paychecks." His concern, he said, is that the Green New Deal would phase out U.S. reliance on coal and fossil fuel, which would wreak havoc on the lives of people who work in those industries. Ocasio-Cortez accepted, saying she'd be "happy" to go, adding that the Green New Deal was written to fund coal-miner pensions. "We want a just transition to make sure we are investing in jobs across those swaths of the country," she said.

All in all, it seemed like an uncharacteristically cordial exchange for two members of Congress. And not even a month later, that cordiality is out the window: Barr attached a rather inhospitable and obnoxious demand to his invitation, writing in a letter posted to Twitter that she should "apologize to [Texas representative Dan Crenshaw] prior to coming to visit Kentucky," for a completely unrelated event before meeting with miners. The public scolding over purported incivility, along with the random call for an apology to a colleague from a completely different state, leaves the impression that the Barr might not want her to come to Kentucky after all.

Crenshaw was one of the first and most vociferous critics to pile on to Minnesota representative Ilhan Omar for out-of-context comments about 9/11. Strangely enough, Barr didn’t seem to think that Crenshaw directing an Islamaphobic attack towards Omar, culminating in an increase in death threats, demonstrated "a lack of civility." When Crenshaw shared a tweet that falsely claimed Omar said the 9/11 attacks weren't terrorism, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out: "You refuse to co-sponsor the 9/11 Victim’s Compensation Fund, yet have the audacity to drum resentment towards Ilhan w/completely out-of-context quotes. In 2018, right-wing extremists were behind almost ALL US domestic terrorist killings. Why don’t you go do something about that?"

So now Barr is demanding that Ocasio-Cortez apologize to Crenshaw if she wants to accept his invitation, writing in a letter to her office that her comments "demonstrate a lack of civility that is becoming far too common in the U.S. House of Representatives." An apology's not likely to happen, though. Corbin Trent, a spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez, told The Courier-Journal, "Luckily, we still have open borders with Kentucky. We don’t need Congressman Barr to meet with coal miners and have a town hall, though we’d love his participation if we do."

Uninviting Ocasio-Cortez is probably a smart move on Barr's part in the long run. For one thing, there aren't any active coal mines in Barr's district. And James Comer, another Republican representative from Kentucky, told local news that he didn't "see any upside" to having her come to Kentucky. "I think a lot of Republicans are making a mistake picking on her. I think we need to be very prepared when we debate her on issues that we're having a hard time with."

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15931 on: April 19, 2019, 02:06:27 AM »
Meuller Report (with redactions):

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

Thank you once again Simon for posting this. After reading just the introduction to Volume One it's clear Bill Barr misled the public about the contents and conclusions of the report in his summary. Essential reading.
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15932 on: April 19, 2019, 02:46:32 AM »
Meuller Report (with redactions):

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

The nothingburger that just keeps on giving.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15933 on: April 19, 2019, 02:47:18 AM »
Reply I saw elsewhere to the question of why Mueller didn't "follow the money":

"He referred FOURTEEN cases to other courts, and we only know what two of them are. Don't panic."

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15934 on: April 19, 2019, 02:47:52 AM »
The nothingburger that just keeps on giving.

?? Please explain.

Did you mean "the supposed nothing that keeps on being something"?
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« Reply #15935 on: April 19, 2019, 03:51:30 AM »
The nothingburger that just keeps on giving.

I'm reading it and taking notes. If and when you ever do, we can perhaps have a productive discussion.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15936 on: April 19, 2019, 04:47:09 AM »
Did you mean "the supposed nothing that keeps on being something"?

Yup. English is not my first language as you might've guessed.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15937 on: April 19, 2019, 02:33:43 PM »
Yup. English is not my first language as you might've guessed.

No problem, Rinaldo.


The Republicans seem to have now decided on the spin of "glad that's completely done with and out of the way - now we can move on". Meanwhile: today is the 244th day of the Trump "presidency" that he will be spending golfing. That number again: 244.


Elizabeth Warren calls on Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against Trump

"Elizabeth Warren became the first Democratic presidential candidate to call for Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump Friday afternoon, citing the "severity" of "misconduct" detailed in the report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. "The severity of this misconduct demands that elected officials in both parties set aside political considerations and do their constitutional duty. That means the House should initiate impeachment proceedings against the President of the United States," the Massachusetts senator wrote on Twitter."





Portrait of the President as a Gangster
The Mueller report reads like the indictment of a mob boss, not an investigation of a president.



Democrats Subpoena Nine Banks in Probe of Trump Finances


Whimsical, uninformed': French ambassador's parting verdict on Trump

"The outgoing French ambassador to the US has compared the Trump administration to the court of King Louis XIV, filled with courtiers trying to interpret the caprices of a “whimsical, unpredictable, uninformed” leader."


Videos appear to show armed militia detaining migrants at US-Mexico border
The American Civil Liberties Union is calling the actions a ‘kidnapping’ and a flagrant violation of the law



And another night on the sofa for George:
George Conway calls for Trump's impeachment
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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15938 on: April 19, 2019, 05:54:57 PM »
One of the things revealed by the Mueller report (and reinforced by his tweets today) is Trump's disdain for people who take notes at meetings.

Cast your mind back to his meeting with Putin at Helsinki, and how it came out that Trump wouldn't let the translator retain any notes. At the time, everyone assumed it was keep anyone finding out what he and Putin had said to each other, and linked it to his bromance with Vladimir. It seems to me now that it was merely another instance of that phobia of notetaking.

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Re: Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)
« Reply #15939 on: April 19, 2019, 10:08:12 PM »
^The two aren't mutually exclusive.


White House and Congress Set to Spar Over Kushner Security Clearance

"The White House would like to be in the room when Congressional investigators grill Carl Kline, the official who green-lit Jared Kushner’s security clearance, according to a letter from that official’s lawyer.

The letter, which The Daily Beast obtained, describes a conflict between Capital Hill and 1600 Pennsylvania. At issue is an investigation of the security clearance process run by Chairman Elijah Cummings’ Committee on Oversight and Reform. Cummings has subpoenaed Carl Kline, the former head of the White House Presidential Personnel Office who overturned a subordinate’s vetoes of security clearances for multiple White House officials.

Now, Kline is looking to bring an attorney from the White House Counsel’s Office into his interview with Cummings’ staff because of potential executive privilege issues. And, per the letter, the White House wants to be there as well. But lawyers for the committee, per the letter, do not want a White House presence in the room when they question Kline. So there’s an impasse."