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The blind comparison is dead. Let it rest in peace.
1 (4.8%)
The blind comparison isn't dead, I just don't wanna do any more of them myself, but I'm happy to watch and make fun of you guys for eliminating Knappertsbusch's Ring in Round One
6 (28.6%)
I'm ok with participating in another blind comparison, under the following conditions: _______
10 (47.6%)
I'm already planning to organise another blind comparison!
0 (0%)
I literally don't care. Leave me alone.
4 (19%)

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Offline jessop

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2017, 01:24:30 AM »
It would be really cool to do a Sibelius tone poem if we're in that time frame then

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2017, 10:06:49 AM »
My problem as well. Beyond that, I found myself loathe to say some recordings were superior to others.  Which resulted for instance in my verdict for the final round of the Bach as all of them being in their different ways equally good.  I hope that did not screw up the scoring too much!

For the record I didn't see that as a problem at all.  I simply scored each of the five versions as "equal 2nd" (translating to 80%) which seemed a reasonable interpretation.  Although it didn't help differentiate them, merely having listened and reported back did help increase the 'confidence' of their overall ratings.

It's good to see there is still a fair amount of interest in these projects - though it appears to be divided such that no single piece of music can catch everyone's interest.  I think one way forward (maybe not the only way) surely is Brian's format - a limited number of runners and riders, and shortish music samples, and all done and dusted inside a month.  And it is very helpful if the links to the 'blind' samples are there upfront in the thread (that was very obvious from the recent S&P comparison - each time I (temporarily) put the links up front, it immediately stimulated responses) but of course for reasons related to illegal distribution etc it is rather difficult to actually do that, I certainly see that as a major problem from an organising point of view.
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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 06:07:39 PM »
I'd love to participate in future lightning rounds, but, like others have said, I don't have the time/attention span for longer works.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2017, 08:08:57 PM »
It seems as if most people are agreeing to shorter works then?

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2017, 07:11:15 AM »
Maybe a left field choice, but I think it could also work with shorter excerpts: the Mystery Sonatas?

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2017, 02:30:11 PM »
Maybe a left field choice, but I think it could also work with shorter excerpts: the Mystery Sonatas?
How many recordings of them exist?

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2017, 02:42:38 PM »
I'm aware of 33 offhand. There may be more.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2017, 02:44:04 PM »
I'm aware of 33 offhand. There may be more.
Well that's good news! I'd be interested in that.

Perhaps also something from the 20th century would be fun, what do you think?

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2017, 02:50:30 PM »
Yes, definitely. The Schoenberg Kammersymphonie is just barely 20th century but that one or Bartók's 3rd quartet are both things I'm strongly considering.

Also, obviously, anyone else who has an idea for a 20th century work, or an orchestra piece or whatever, is welcome to run their own >_> I can be contacted to supply recordings if desired.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2017, 06:34:07 AM »
I started a Bartok Strings, Percussion & Celesta comparison a while back - but it was completely stillborn, not a single response to the 1st round of music samples.  I also have a choice of possible Shostakovich mini- or midi- projects in the back of my mind - a Prelude & Fugue, the Piano Quintet, Symphony 1.
Meanwhile I'm enjoying a rest lurking on the Chopin thread - very well-presented I must say, well done amw!

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2017, 02:36:21 PM »
Actually I am just gonna say that I am more than willing to host a blind comparison on the condition that we will be comparing recordings of the overture to Mozart's Le Nozze di Figaro.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2017, 02:44:39 PM »
Actually I am just gonna say that I am more than willing to host a blind comparison on the condition that we will be comparing recordings of the overture to Mozart's Le Nozze di Figaro.
That will happen whenever you want, on the condition that you start it.  8)
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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2017, 08:21:26 AM »
I've long been considering an Alexander Nevsky blind listening. The problem is, a) if short, what to listen to. I would pick Battle of the Ice about 1.30-2.00 minutes in. That section is always different. But is it representative? Still, my favorite part and where I am most interested to discuss. I've also considered the solo voice section, but that will be too dependent on the soloist. And b) if longer, well, not sure there is interest.

I have also been considering a different format, like March Madness. So it would be 8 or 16 or 32, for example, where each is a battle royale between two versions. But I think that would only work well for shorter pieces.
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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2017, 04:42:40 PM »
I've changed my mind. After amw's Chopin Blind Comparison I think I will set up a blind comparison of the fourth movement of Mozart's Symphony no. 35 if anyone is interested. :)

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2017, 04:57:43 PM »
I might be up for shorter and less formal works like overtures and tone poems.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2017, 05:18:44 PM »
I might be up for shorter and less formal works like overtures and tone poems.
The last mvt of Mozart's Haffner symphony is usually around 4 minutes........so I guess at least you'd be up for it? I don't know how many people here like Mozart though!

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2017, 08:53:51 PM »
Sad I wasn't around for the Bartok blind comparison, I would have been up for that piece for sure!

I think 10 samples is too many...I feel like 6-8 is a good maximum - though it of course depends how long each is.

If around ~5 min each, that still takes a while to listen to and digest each. That's probably the maximum length that would work well.

I will always be more attracted to orchestral works personally, but am open to checking out chamber comparisons too! Just depends on the composer/work (or how much I happen to actually visit the forum at the time.)

Glad to see the tradition is still being continued, nice way to learn about other recordings, I have great memories of our old comparisons of Mahler, Tchaikovsky, Strauss tone poems, etc.:)

I do think a Le Sacre comparison would be super fun, or perhaps another Stravinsky work...I might have enough recordings, or could at least contribute!

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2017, 08:56:32 PM »
Ives’ The Unanswered Question would be a cool one to do since it’s only around 6-7 minutes in duration.
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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2017, 09:00:44 PM »
I do have most of the materials ready for a Schoenberg Kammersymphonie comparison whenever Sibelius 7 is done (also might participate in that at some point) it's just, a) my computer's had to take an emergency trip to the shop today and might not be back for more than a week and b) I have to still figure out which excerpt I want to use. Expect it sometime though.

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Re: Future blind comparisons
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2017, 08:58:05 AM »
The Sibelius won't go on past next week, and if the subject matter is reasonably different (orchestral vs solo piano vs baroque vs ...) there's no clash anyway, why not just go ahead whenever you're ready you get your computer back.

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