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My little Recorder Thread
« on: February 08, 2017, 05:44:46 AM »
Guess what I got for a gift? :laugh:


Yea, so, I finally picked it up and figured I try learning the 'Kill Bill' theme running through my head. Just a melody to learn how to play this thing.

QUESTION #1:

When all my fingers are on it, and I go to blow, it seems one of three sounds comes out- a lowish one, a highish one, and then the super squeaky one- I'm assuming the low tone is the correct one? And that's a C?

I can't figure out how to consistently get the correct "wind pressure" or whatever... the slightest easing/making more pressure with fingers and/or mouth will send the delicate situation all aflutter...

Watched some Vivaldi and Irish recorder stuff... pretty pretty hot stuff there!!

Anyhow... RECORDER 101 BEGINS TODAY! ;)
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 05:54:14 AM »
Which of the three may be correct, depends on which octave you mean to play.  You have discovered what we wind players know as "overblowing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overblowing
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 11:33:34 AM »
Which of the three may be correct, depends on which octave you mean to play.  You have discovered what we wind players know as "overblowing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overblowing

Right, but it seems sometimes no matter how "underblowing" I'm doing it, it still wobbles between the two higher ones. I can't seem to figure the correct pressure. Sometimes it seems I'm overblowing, but I still get the low tone, then I underblow and seem to get squeaky... all the while making sure all the fingers are covering the wholes...

it's just a big mess :P

awright... I guess it time for 1/2 hour practice!!

(really did like that Irish stuff)
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 01:15:26 PM »
An under-rated instrument is the old recorder.

The correct blowing pressure will come with practice and pressure. Put simply, low pressure for the lower notes and higher pressure for the higher notes, but always gently and smoothly.

One other point: ensure that your fingers are covering all of all of the holes [if you see what I mean] including the one at the back.

Best of luck  8)
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 01:30:11 PM »
I hope this is a wooden one!

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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2017, 08:40:25 AM »
I hope this is a wooden one!

Which of the three may be correct, depends on which octave you mean to play.  You have discovered what we wind players know as "overblowing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overblowing


OK, how bout this?-

The Yamaha guidebook... uh, the notes just aren't really corresponding for me...

ALL FINGERS = LOW C

RAISE JUST RIGHT PINKY = LOW D

RAISE THE LAST TWO (RIGHT) FINGERS = LOW E

RAISE THE LAST THREE (RIGHT) FINGERS = LOW F  no, no it doesn't- it's clearly an f#


Then, trying to get a "high D", which they say is the "left ring finger (and thumb) ONLY"- well, no, that's not sounding correct...



Now, I just have to believe that a Yamaha recorder is the most standardized instrument in history- how can ANYTHING BE OFF???? Why am I not getting the notes they say I should be getting??
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2017, 04:35:13 PM »
I hope this is a wooden one!

It's your typical yamaha blonde plastic


Seems I'm getting a few things... that F still sounds more F#...
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Re: My little Recorder Thread 12-tone recorder
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2017, 04:36:17 PM »
You know my 12 tone recorder piece will be forthcoming, lol :laugh:
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2017, 05:26:57 PM »
Are you sure its a recorder ? descant or treble, its only a whistle with notes.
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 09:07:39 AM »
Are you sure its a recorder ? descant or treble, its only a whistle with notes.

it's yer standard Yamaha blonde plastic...

My friend came over last night and played an "Irish" Em-D progression and I "attempted" to play over it. Oh, what a hoot!! Yea, it was sloppy and sucked, but it did sound like bad Irish music, lol.



So, is hi-hi "D" the highest note? Seems to be....



I need to find a church or gorge with some reverb. Recorder neeeds reverb, at least when I play...
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 09:08:56 AM »
I'm taking the recorder to work, and if bossy wants to start a fight I'll just whip out my recorder and kung fu his ass with some soothing tones!! Word.
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 03:55:45 PM »
I can’t tell if you are serious or joking, is it treble not terrible or descant?
It must have come with a fingering chart, which would solve your queries.
Are the two instruments in tune and are you covering the finger holes completely.
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2017, 08:17:31 AM »
I can’t tell if you are serious or joking, is it treble not terrible or descant?
It must have come with a fingering chart, which would solve your queries.
Are the two instruments in tune and are you covering the finger holes completely.

I don't understand :'( :(... I can only call it the "normal" recorder that one has seen their whole life- plastic, Yamaha, blonde... the "paper" shows both the "German" and "Baroque" fingerings...


The only problem I was having was, the F (three fingers up) sounds like an F#, so, it appears the instrument is in the key of G rather than C... but how can that be when these things are so standardized?

It sounded right when he played Em/D and I just noodled above.



Either way, I have now managed to get all the normal (not chromatic) notes to sound all the way up to the highest D, and back down again. But, yea, you gotta make sure all those holes are covered.






LOL- I just read on the instructions to "only use the recorder for musical production".. lol... because, lol,

ONCE AT BAND CAMP!! ??? :o ??? :o


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sTILL CAN'T TELL TREBLE/DESCANT????? (whoops)
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 11:45:44 AM »
Okay, here we go! Your recorder is most likely a soprano or "descant;" that is the most common type, especially if the lowest note is a C.

It's easiest to learn the few-finger notes first, starting with D and adding fingers. Don't worry about the higher notes for a while, till you get comfortable with the first octave plus D.

Use your belly muscles to support your breath; that's where you get power and consistency in your playing. It's much like yogic breathing.

For the purpose of fingering recorder, you have four (4) fingers and a thumb on each hand -- not five fingers as on piano!
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Re: My little Recorder Thread
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 11:49:16 AM »
One more item: You don't need to press hard to cover the finger holes; in fact, it's better if you don't. Learn to feel when your fingers are exactly centered on the holes, then press lightly.

There. Recorder 101. :)
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