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Offline jessop

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Glitch music recommendations
« on: March 18, 2017, 02:59:09 PM »
Please recommend some so that I may understand this aesthetic more please.

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 07:58:12 PM »
From the electro-acoustic alternative pop / art music bin....

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8g8LflASbBk" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8g8LflASbBk</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nabgy2bCuz0" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nabgy2bCuz0</a>
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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2017, 08:27:42 PM »
Seems a bit too 'pop' to me.........perhaps there are people whose works incorporate this kind of thing but idk...less 'pop' and more 'experimental?'

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2017, 09:11:54 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn8mxzDYdbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGAZDQROxA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5hhFMSAuf4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrh_QiMbd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGcPwGqPHO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIgBEXuQD8

This is only stuff I know that has definitely been referred to as glitch... I don't really see the difference between some glitch and some onkyo and some other acousmatic things sometimes but I didn't go down any rabbit holes for tonight.

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 03:58:52 AM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/PDTxFrS8DFQ" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/PDTxFrS8DFQ</a>
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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2017, 05:13:11 AM »
[Drones in Large Cycles - Nico Muhly]
Beautiful. I didn't really expect to like something called 'glitch music'.
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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2017, 06:34:41 AM »
Practically any turntable music could be called "glitch."

Milan Knizak did a thing back in the sixties called broken music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ONydyRX7c

Christian Marclay is also pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVyO9BaMvAQ

I had this album. I also saw him in concert in 1984. Changed my life.

And of course, the amazing Yasunau Tone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEDi-39o5qw

But that's as may be. When I think "glitch," I think of the master of every kind of equipment failure. Truly the best of the best, Francisco Meirino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcEeN9qAVmw

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 08:33:55 PM »
Thanks so much everyone! I particularly enjoy the Francisco Meirino posted by some guy. :)

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 04:26:47 AM »
Royji Ikeda : Dataplex



Unfortunately it's not on YouTube. I highly recommend to listen to the whole album at once.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 04:39:40 AM »
You misspelled kitsch.

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 05:34:43 AM »
You misspelled kitsch.

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Are you suggesting that we should have been recommending things like Golijov? :laugh:

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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 05:42:34 AM »
Perish the thought!  8)
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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2017, 12:59:40 PM »
I immediately thought of a recent favourite, Mannequin shop by Zviij. Marclay and Ikeda is essential.

As for glitching applied to orchestral music, this is one of my favourite soundtracks but it's gonna be too 'pop' for you as well..

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/0TOtsjFg69g" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/0TOtsjFg69g</a>


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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2017, 02:33:10 PM »
You misspelled kitsch.(j/k)
Are you suggesting that we should have been recommending things like Golijov? :laugh:
Perish the thought!  8)

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2017, 02:41:00 PM »
Once again, the collective of members on GMG demonstrate, rather like the staff of expert specialists of The Antiques Roadshow(s), that it only takes one or several members to display their know-all -- and well inform -- in a relatively rare area.

In this thread on Glitch music, I'm talking about you, Nathan B and Some Guy :-)
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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 03:05:57 AM »
I never paid much attention to labels or such limiting parameters, especially when haphazardly grafted to music. I never heard of this particular fad so I visited wiki ..

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Glitch is a genre of electronic music that emerged in the late 1990s. It has been described as a genre that adheres to an "aesthetic of failure," where the deliberate use of glitch-based audio media, and other sonic artifacts, is a central concern.

Sad how folks fall into such limiting & narrow trappings when creativity is concerned, or even take it seriously. And I don't see how this nonsense relates serious writing, music-making, let alone classical music. Perhaps it belongs in the Diner, like out back, where they put out the trash?
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 06:26:15 AM »
I never paid much attention to labels or such limiting parameters, especially when haphazardly grafted to music. I never heard of this particular fad so I visited wiki ..

Sad how folks fall into such limiting & narrow trappings when creativity is concerned, or even take it seriously.

Sad how old geezers fail to grasp the point and interest of new musical aesthetics.

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I thought we were in the Diner.

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 07:57:00 AM »
Sad how old geezers fail to grasp the point and interest of new musical aesthetics.

Boy, those are some "musical aesthetics"  ..  ::)

Talk about aiming low.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2017, 09:59:37 AM »
One of the myths that was perpetuated around the time that the term "classical music" was coined was the idea that, being more sophisticated and all, classical music required more concentration, more thought, more effort to listen to. And that all that activity was virtuous, somehow. And still, in symphony concerts, there are often pre-concert talks that explain how to listen to things that, given the audience, must surely be things that are quite familiar to it.

My take on it is that the more work the composer does, the less work the listener has to do. It's easy! Someone else has done all the work; you can just sit back and take it all in (or part of it in, maybe) and feel really sophisticated for being such a superior being as to like classical music.

Part of the idea in the fifties--and arguably some few decades before that, even--was that of re-apportioning responsibility more equally. Sure, the composer still has work to do; the performers still have work to do; but now the listeners have even more work to do than ever before. It's no longer about masterpieces and master performances--at least for some people--it's now more about art and beauty and what the listener/observer brings to the situation.

Simply put, there is more work for each listener to do with new music, especially work of the indeterminate and improvisatory kinds. You no longer have some god-like being presenting you with a finished masterpiece which, after a few minutes of pre-concert lecture, you are only expected to respond to with the appropriate religiosity. O altitudo!! You now are expected, or perhaps just invited (!), to participate. No longer a mere consumer, guided by wise music pundits, giving easy worship to pieces from the past that no longer have the power they once had to shock and bewilder and infuriate. Now a co-creator, an active participant in the situation, invested and responsible.

Hah! We all know how that one turned out. Rejected, soundly (pun intended), by one and all. Or almost all.

There are some of us who are content to like what we like without worrying about whether any mavens, self-proclaimed or otherwise, will be granting us the accolade of "good taste" to our aesthetic endeavors. El principal enemigo de la creatividad es el buen gusto. And the guy who said that was still one of the old guard, busily churning out masterpiece after masterpiece. Still. True words. Or perhaps this, from a musician this time: "Down with masterpieces; up with art."

Amen.

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Re: Glitch music recommendations
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2017, 09:06:38 PM »
Sad how old geezers fail to grasp the point and interest of new musical aesthetics.

Tsk, Tsk!  "All _____ are ____."

Yeah, right.

That out of the way, I think some (any generation) might just fail to realize how artists have always pushed the limits of the materials / tools they had at their disposal... including taking advantage of 'accidents,' etc.

The high and 'strained' sounding horn notes in a climactic moment in a Beethoven symphony were absolute hell to nail and hold the intonation steady, even for a virtuoso (non-valve) hornist of the day.  No contemporary valve-horn player can come close to getting that sound quality.  Beethoven knew exactly what he was doing, and asking of the player, and the available technology / equipment and its behavior.  "What artists do"

The electronic computer glitches happened due to the (by present comparison) extremely limited memory and processors in the early years of PC's and laptops.  Running audio, the equipment would quite readily choke while playing but a minimum of data load, and that would make these glitches (artifacts.)  Then, as in centuries before, the musicians made something of it vs. editing it out.  "What artists do."

Earlier electronic music had the extremely temperamental synthesizers varying from day to day when using exactly the same wave-forms, filters and settings.  The composers worked with it, without it, and 'against' it when it offered something temporarily different than what they had been planning.  "What artists do."

Too, I have an entirely empiric theory as to why the glitches seemed at all attractive to that generation who ran across them:  they resonated on a somewhat sentimental level, very much recalling the glitches heard when playing back an LP vinyl disc that had small dings or a bit of dust in the grooves, the stylus hissing, 'glitching,' skipping, etc.

This all comes under a bracket of "What artists do," (routinely) back then and now.  I don't see any radical gulf of difference of aesthetics here.


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