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« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2017, 02:13:42 AM »
I read the same story in the Daily Telegraph, Rees-Moog doesn´t totally rule out becoming a Conservative Leader/PM
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/06/jacob-rees-mogg-says-against-gay-marriage-abortion-circumstance/).

But there isn´t enough support in the UK for those anti-abortion views?

That's right, he said no backbench MP has ever become leader. But there's always a first time or he could (ye gods) become a minister and then "circumstances have changed."

I'd like to think there isn't much support for this view, but my faith in the Great British Public has never been that great; even more so after Brexit. Even if he was PM I can't see the law ever getting changed. Even amongst Tory MPs there's not many living in the 18th century.
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« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2017, 02:15:11 AM »
This pillock is opposed to abortion if a woman is raped.

The only good tory...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/06/jacob-rees-mogg-opposed-to-gay-marriage-and-abortion-even-after

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he also believes in the Divine Right of Kings.

Isn't it amazing how the likes of Rees Mogg are so keen to take such a stand on abortion because it's a "moral issue" but appear to suffer no pangs of conscience when they vote for cuts that grind the poorest into the dirt? Because crapping all over the poor is clearly not a moral issue. Oh no.

There's also a rather large discrepancy between their view of an unborn child (a precious gift from the Lord Almighty whose life is sacrosanct) and their view when said child has been born: vote for cuts that hammer the poorest families and thus drive more children even further into poverty? Not a problem! 

I think this is the kind of Christianity Rees Mogg and co believe in:


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« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2017, 05:41:32 AM »
Jeebus, the man's only 48. 😦
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« Reply #103 on: September 06, 2017, 05:52:14 AM »
What astounds me most about this abhorrent **** is that at the last election 53.6% of the constituency voted for him.

And here is the voting record of the man these people voted for:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes
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« Reply #104 on: September 06, 2017, 07:16:52 AM »
What astounds me most about this abhorrent **** is that at the last election 53.6% of the constituency voted for him.

And here is the voting record of the man these people voted for:

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes

It's not just him either, the likes of Philip Davies get voted back in time and time again as well. The only conclusion I can draw is that those voting for such bastards either don't know that the pricks they're voting for have such appalling voting records, or they do know and approve. The first possibility is depressing, the second downright disturbing.

Just found this story:

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The DWP is fighting to prevent disclosure of a report that shows how well Maximus is managing to carry out its work capability assessment contract, for fear it would damage the company’s reputation.

A request for a copy of the outcome report, which would give a breakdown of Maximus’ performance at each assessment centre has been ordered to be released by the Information Commissioner.

However, the DWP are refusing to publish it and are now taking the case to an information tribunal.

The report goes all the way back to 2011, covering the performance of both Atos and Maximus.

The DWP claim that if the information was published it could ‘give a perception of under-performance’ which could ‘damage the reputation and standing of the companies involved’.

The DWP are thus claiming that the data is exempt from disclosure because publishing it could damage the commercial interests of both Maximus and Atos, as well as the DWP itself.

Yes, you read that right. The DWP believes the public do not have a right to know about the performance levels of private companies to whom vital public services have been outsourced, and who therefore trouser large sums of public money. Why doesn't the public have a right to know? Because then it would be clear how bad things are, and that would hurt the reputation of the companies delivering such poor service. And we can't have that!

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« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2017, 10:17:30 AM »
Even amongst Tory MPs there's not many living in the 18th century.

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« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2017, 10:35:48 AM »
Luxury.

The 18th century or the low number of anachronistic Tory MPs?
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« Reply #107 on: September 06, 2017, 04:17:40 PM »
The 18th century or the low number of anachronistic Tory MPs?

Current political leaders.

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« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2017, 06:03:48 AM »
Not content with endorsing Donald Trump last year and Marine Le Pen in the recent French election, cuddly funster Nigel Farage endorses the far right AfD in the upcoming German election:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/08/nigel-farage-backs-far-right-afd-for-historic-german-election-success
 

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Surveys among business associations and polls of the German public have consistently shown little appetite for opening free trade talks directly with the UK. One recent poll, carried out on behalf of public broadcaster ZDF, showed 84% of the German public opposed the EU making concessions to Great Britain during the current negotiations.

Asked in a press conference before his speech if he therefore advocated that Merkel should ignore the views of the German people, Farage responded: “Of course they don’t want to make concessions, because they have not had the debate.” Business associations, he said, “did not represent the businesses themselves”.

Business associations don't represent the businesses themselves? Can this be the same Nigel Farage who only recently was assuring us that German car manufacturers would put pressure on Merkel to give us a good deal so they wouldn't lose their trade with the UK? Surely not.

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Farage complained that Brexit was not playing a large enough role in the German election campaign, noting that neither Merkel nor Schulz had brought up the issue in last Sunday’s TV debate.

It's almost as if the Germans aren't obsessed with Brexit because they're more interested in issues related directly to domestic German politics. Can you believe it? Being more concerned with issues relating to Germany in a German election - how selfish of them!
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« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2017, 07:43:02 AM »
I agree with Farage. Similarly, I think the British General election's main topic of debate should have been the rise of the far right in Germany. 😒

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The crowd funded legal challenge to the Torydup Frankenstein monster has been given an "urgent" start date for court proceedings. Fingers crossed.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/sep/08/court-to-hear-challenge-to-theresa-may-1bn-deal-with-dup     
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« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2017, 08:27:20 AM »

 

A couple of highlights:

Business associations don't represent the businesses themselves? Can this be the same Nigel Farage who only recently was assuring us that German car manufacturers would put pressure on Merkel to give us a good deal so they wouldn't lose their trade with the UK? Surely not.


It's not so crazy as it sounds. The people in Brussels, Berlin, London, and DC who staff the association may often be more connected to the politicians and bureaucrats than they are to the membership outside. And an association that represents both big and small companies, the bigger ones may be able to steer things that favor them over the smaller ones.

But that's not enough reason to vote for the rascal.

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« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2017, 09:40:27 AM »
It's not so crazy as it sounds. The people in Brussels, Berlin, London, and DC who staff the association may often be more connected to the politicians and bureaucrats than they are to the membership outside. And an association that represents both big and small companies, the bigger ones may be able to steer things that favor them over the smaller ones.

But that's not enough reason to vote for the rascal.

The point is that it was Farage who was assuring us that German business associations (especially the car manufacturers, though he seemed to think this would apply to German business generally) would put pressure on Merkel to give us a good deal. He seemed to think they were just fine and dandy when he thought they'd be helpful to us. Now he's realised that that pressure isn't happening and isn't likely to, so the very associations he was talking up have now become remote organisations out of touch with their members. Of course, when he was talking up German business as helpful to Britain's cause it was pointed out to him that his confidence was likely to prove unfounded, but he chose to dismiss such warnings.
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« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2017, 06:08:43 AM »
Look who's been given the Big Ben refurbishment contract:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/mps-condemn-big-ben-contract-sir-robert-mcalpine-blacklisted

Makes you proud to be British....

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« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2017, 09:07:47 AM »
No, but it still goes a pretty long way:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41225056

It does. And clearly this is a brazen anti-democratic measure. Every word Corbyn says in that article is spot on. Why doesn't May just come clean and declare a one party state?
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« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2017, 09:50:51 AM »
It does. And clearly this is a brazen anti-democratic measure. Every word Corbyn says in that article is spot on. Why doesn't May just come clean and declare a one party state?

I suppose if the mask were to slip it would be rather difficult to put it back. Much easier to just claim there's nothing undemocratic about it and everything's fine. The example of the Brexiteers comes to mind: having spent years campaigning to leave the EU to restore the "sovereignty of parliament", they've happily voted for a Brexit bill which allows the government to, er....bypass parliament. An example of "taking back control" in action, with the caveat that the people taking that control certainly won't be the public. 

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« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2017, 05:04:30 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he also believes in the Divine Right of Kings.

Isn't it amazing how the likes of Rees Mogg are so keen to take such a stand on abortion because it's a "moral issue" but appear to suffer no pangs of conscience when they vote for cuts that grind the poorest into the dirt? Because crapping all over the poor is clearly not a moral issue. Oh no.

There's also a rather large discrepancy between their view of an unborn child (a precious gift from the Lord Almighty whose life is sacrosanct) and their view when said child has been born: vote for cuts that hammer the poorest families and thus drive more children even further into poverty? Not a problem! 

I think this is the kind of Christianity Rees Mogg and co believe in:



I've just upgraded him from pillock to twat. What fucking planet is he living on?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/14/jacob-rees-mogg-increased-use-food-banks-rather-uplifting
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« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2017, 06:14:28 AM »
I've just upgraded him from pillock to twat. What fucking planet is he living on?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/14/jacob-rees-mogg-increased-use-food-banks-rather-uplifting

He's such a card!

I like this bit:

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“I don’t think the state can do everything,” he said. “It tries to provide a base of welfare that should allow people to make ends meet during the course of the week, but on some occasions that will not work.

Of course, the "occasions when that doesn't work" are likely to be those cases such as....well, off the top of my head, sanctioning the unemployed into destitution on the flimsiest of pretexts. Or using rigged assessments to snatch money away from the sick and disabled. But never mind, at least they have the "uplifting" experience of visiting the food bank to look forward to.

Fun fact: when Atos pulled out of their Work Capability Assessment contract with the DWP early, they were replaced by another corporate giant, Maximus. Maximus are trousering even more public money than Atos for this contract - £1.6 billion in fact. The terms of the contract require them to find savings of £1billlion. Those "savings" are bound to consist largely of depriving even more people of desperately needed support regardless of the human cost. But even leaving that aside, the fact remains that even if Maximus somehow manage to find those savings, the public will still lose out to the tune of £600million. So the government awarded them a contract which guarantees that the public loses out even if the terms of the contract are fulfilled. It's worth remembering that the next time you hear a Tory minister banging on about the need for "sound public finances".
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« Reply #119 on: September 18, 2017, 12:05:31 AM »
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