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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2017, 03:54:06 AM »
Ah, Yorkshire, home of Northern Monk. Excellent!

Slightly more tangential suggestions:

As a seasoned ignoramus, I found the book Classical Music by Jan Swafford to be useful to "get my bearings."

Put Radio 3 on, just as background music (sacrilege!).

Nothing is required or expected. I admit I've got stuff by the likes of Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, but my very favourite music is often by composers I hadn't even heard a note of just a few years ago (or even heard of).

Enjoy the journey. 👍😃



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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2017, 08:15:21 AM »
Off the top of my head, these are essential works that haven't been mentioned yet:

Webern - Symphony op 21
Bartok - Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta
Stravinsky - Agon
Varese - Ameriques
Stockhausen - Gruppen
Xenakis - Jonchaies
Ligeti - Atmospheres
Penderecki - Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima


Hope you enjoy them, it provides a great contrast to many of the examples cited thus far too  8)

Thank you! I'm a methodical soul, so I'm working down the list, but I'm looking forward to listening to your suggestions, and appreciating the contrast.
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2017, 08:17:31 AM »
Ah, Yorkshire, home of Northern Monk. Excellent!

Slightly more tangential suggestions:

As a seasoned ignoramus, I found the book Classical Music by Jan Swafford to be useful to "get my bearings."

Put Radio 3 on, just as background music (sacrilege!).

Nothing is required or expected. I admit I've got stuff by the likes of Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, but my very favourite music is often by composers I hadn't even heard a note of just a few years ago (or even heard of).

Enjoy the journey. 👍😃

Thank you - I've googled the Swafford book and it looks good. I will definitely read it.
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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2017, 01:07:45 PM »
I like the music of the eighteenth century - or anything with a strong or interesting rhythm.

Some suggestions to get you started:

Haydn: Piano Concerto No. 11 in D, Hob. XVIII:11
Mozart: Symphony No. 38 "Prager"
Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 "Eroica"
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 5
Schubert: Symphony No. 9
Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique
Schumann: Piano Concerto
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and No. 2)
Alkan: 12 Études dans tous les tons mineurs, op. 39
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8
Nielsen: Symphony No. 3
Medtner: Piano Concerto No. 1
Ravel: Piano Concertos (both of them)
Liszt: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and Totentanz)
Stravinsky: Three Movements from Petrouchka
Walton: Belshazzar's Feast

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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2017, 12:46:18 AM »
Some suggestions to get you started:

Haydn: Piano Concerto No. 11 in D, Hob. XVIII:11
Mozart: Symphony No. 38 "Prager"
Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 "Eroica"
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 5
Schubert: Symphony No. 9
Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique
Schumann: Piano Concerto
Brahms: Symphony No. 1
Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and No. 2)
Alkan: 12 Études dans tous les tons mineurs, op. 39
Dvořák: Symphony No. 8
Nielsen: Symphony No. 3
Medtner: Piano Concerto No. 1
Ravel: Piano Concertos (both of them)
Liszt: Piano Concerto No. 1 (and Totentanz)
Stravinsky: Three Movements from Petrouchka
Walton: Belshazzar's Feast

Thank you, Wanderer. The list looks very interesting - I hadn't even heard of Alkan and Medtner!!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2017, 04:13:14 AM »
Hi, I'm an old man who likes late Romantic music and early-twentieth century "modernism" ( ca 1910 -1950). I'm interested in lesser known composers.

Possibly you may enjoy:

Ottorino Respighi:

Antiche danze ed arie - https://youtu.be/3BPloCq3ODE

""Ancient Airs and Dances is a set of three orchestral suites by Italian composer Ottorino Respighi, freely transcribed from original pieces for lute. Very sweet and harmonious.

His violinconcerto "Concerto gregoriano" is a gem : https://youtu.be/bB5KRHTPTjA

However, Respighi can make a large orchestra glitter & shine : symphonic poems Fontane di Roma, I pini di Roma, Feste romane, Vetrate di chiesa, Impressione Braziliane. Some of the movements are delicate and impressionistic, others develop into loud, verry brassy and extatic climaxes.

From Feste romane: https://youtu.be/DKdfZLgiWJ0

British composer Ralph Vaughan Williams wrote some truly wonderful music.  Try:

The lark ascending: https://youtu.be/ZR2JlDnT2l8

Fantasia on a theme by Thomas Tallis : https://youtu.be/GpwqZSp_CyM (performed and filmed in Gloucester cathedral!).

5 Mystical songs: https://youtu.be/6Wtus11fFJw

RVW'w output is large and diverse: 8 symphonies, cantatas, choral works and superb chamber music.

My favorite is symphony nr. 3 "Pastoral ": https://youtu.be/bAi65Fmbn0A

Claude Debussy: one of the great masters.

Danse sacrée et danse profane for harp and strings: https://youtu.be/G3UGewCinYw

Children's corner for piano: https://youtu.be/KVIYYQXNcVU

Iberia, for orchestra: https://youtu.be/Tg1w75c8Vc0

My compatriot Joseph Jongen is definitely lesser known, but he wrote often some quite elegant and refined music...albeit heavily influenced by Debussy.

Pièces en trio: https://youtu.be/sZBxAX8QCCk

Arthur Meulemans is a name you're unlikely to see on international concert programs ... He was an extremely prolific composer (15 symphonies, all kinds of concerti, stringquartets, choral works, Lieder, oratoria and cantatas...). Not all of his output is of the highest order, but as a youth (1910)  he already knew how to write for orchestra:

Maynight: https://youtu.be/IDfyBQSeav0

Looking forward to your comments.

Peter




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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2017, 05:27:00 AM »
^^^^ Thank you, Peter. I am working my way through the suggestions and enjoying myself very much. It will take me some time to get on to your list - which looks fab, btw -  but when I do, I will post again to tell you what I thought of each piece.  :)
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2017, 06:00:27 AM »
Take your time!

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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2017, 08:51:31 AM »
All right then: my “second wave,” all 18th century.

JS Bach, Chaconne from the Partita in d minor for violin solo, BWV 1004

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DBJPVnJ8m-Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/DBJPVnJ8m-Y</a>

JS Bach, Brandenburg Concerto № 4 in G, BWV 1049

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Haydn, Concerto for Trumpet in Eb

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/kCX_UXoHwyA" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/kCX_UXoHwyA</a>

Haydn, String Quartet in d minor, Op.76 № 2

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/yXLbPL0lnus" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/yXLbPL0lnus</a>

Mozart, Symphony № 40 in g minor, K. 550 (Ah, I see Mahlerian listed this already!)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/wqkXqpQMk2k" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/wqkXqpQMk2k</a>

Mozart, Piano Concerto № 21 in C, K. 467

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Mozart, Clarinet Quintet in A, K. 581

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/_8fX1LmqG8s" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/_8fX1LmqG8s</a>

Beethoven, Piano Sonata № 8 in c minor, Op.13, “Pathétique (Most of the must-know Beethoven dates from the 19th century, of course; but this celebrated Sonata fits under the wire.)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qO8yfBLNVjU" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/qO8yfBLNVjU</a>

François Couperin, Ordre 21ème de clavecin in E minor

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Zelenka, Missa votiva ZWV 18

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Domenico Scarlatti, Sonata in d minor, K. 9

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Gluck, Iphigénie en Tauride

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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2017, 10:13:37 AM »
Kark certainly knows his classics.  I endorse completely his choices !  One cannot stress enough the importance of Bach Chaconne for solo violin as it inspired a number of famous composer through the 19th and 20th century to write their own transcription for the piano.  The most famous one is Busoni's which you can compare to the original here

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The most famous melodie that Gluck wrote is from Orphée et Euridice, which did inspire a number of composers to write their own transcription.  Here is the one that Giovanni Sgambati wrote which capture fantastically well the beauty of this piece

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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2017, 10:30:44 AM »
Monteverdi - Zefiro torna
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4</a>

Pergolesi - Stabat Mater
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/9a5wF5e7QiE" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/9a5wF5e7QiE</a>

Rameau - Suite in G major
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/RAMX6ofEHtw" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/RAMX6ofEHtw</a>

Biber - Violin Sonata No. 3 in F major
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Dl9371sYxXo" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Dl9371sYxXo</a>

Corelli - Violin Sonata Op. 5 No. 12
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/wiZjALaEb1M" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/wiZjALaEb1M</a>

Beethoven - Sonata for Violin & Piano No. 9
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mUWcyDEvsYA" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mUWcyDEvsYA</a>

Rakhmaninov - Corelli Variations (the theme isn't actually by Corelli - La Follia is a much older tune and a popular choice for o
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/vZTSzvcW9q8" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/vZTSzvcW9q8</a>

Albéniz - Iberia
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ShXNe4kc6M8" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ShXNe4kc6M8</a>

Ravel - Tombeau de Couperin
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Wz165MCij6c" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Wz165MCij6c</a>

Sibelius - The Tempest (highlights)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/D4EsO47POQw" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/D4EsO47POQw</a>

Bartók - Dance Suite
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/IBwmZSKaI0o" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/IBwmZSKaI0o</a>

Pärt - Fratres
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« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2017, 10:46:41 AM »
Thumbs up, Spineur & Karlo!
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« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2017, 10:58:32 AM »
Thumbs up, Spineur & Karlo!
Rosalba is getting spoiled !  I have to say that youtube is a fantastic library, but boy, is the sound awfull.
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« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2017, 11:26:33 AM »
Rosalba is getting spoiled !  I have to say that youtube is a fantastic library, but boy, is the sound awfull.
Even at best, rather a distance from ideal  8)

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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2017, 11:44:36 AM »
Don't forget Tsjaikovsky.

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« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2017, 11:45:59 AM »
Rosalba is getting spoiled !...

I certainly am. Wow! - Thanks, Karl, Spineur & North Star - also Peter. You are very kind.
This should keep me busy for quite a while...
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2017, 11:54:54 AM »
Even at best, rather a distance from ideal  8)

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True, no doubt, but I'm not enough of a connoisseur (or not yet! :) ) for this to matter too much...
Very grateful to YouTube as it really is a short cut - and if I like something, I can always buy a cd (and ask you all for recommendations.)

Thanks, everyone.
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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2017, 02:53:33 AM »
True in both considerations:  YouTube is a wonderful initial reference resource, but . . . less than adequate as a musical experience.
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2017, 07:29:51 AM »
These are all "very well known" works from the last century.
Be not afraid.  I imagine you might well enjoy them ;-)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kt5Eq317bX8" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kt5Eq317bX8</a>

This for Petrushka but the later neoclassical style ballet, Orpheus, though in a very different style, is, imo, quite beautiful
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/cv-BOJLQMlc" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/cv-BOJLQMlc</a>

A large-scale work for Chorus and large orchestra...
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/3wyftO6flX4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/3wyftO6flX4</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Ti_jRkf6NYA" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Ti_jRkf6NYA</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/bETU-8qa_g0" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/bETU-8qa_g0</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/yRQw85LdRbI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/yRQw85LdRbI</a>

Wishing you the most happy and many adventurous musical explorations...


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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2017, 07:36:08 AM »
Thank you, Monsieur Croche. :)
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