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Offline Monsieur Croche

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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2017, 06:44:35 PM »
Thank you, Monsieur Croche. :)

You are welcome... I am sure that goes as well for all who have recommended pieces to you.

I recommend making a playlist of them all and then listening at your leisure. 

If something does not strike you as interesting, keep it, but move on to something else. 
There is always going back to any one piece later, and listening, casual or with full concentrated attention, either way, takes time.

I think you've already seen that if you have a particular interest or taste of the moment, that asking more about that piece, period or composer here will yield a number of well-directed responses.

Already you can see the variety of what people favor, tend to think of to recommend.  This site has a great, knowledgeable, friendly -- and 'mostly harmless' -- membership.  Enjoy the music, and your newfound GMG colleagues.


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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2017, 02:42:22 AM »
Delighted to help!...
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Thanks, Karl - I've just polished off your listening list - started with yours because it was most convenient, but will now move back on to Mahlerian's links.

I knew some already - The Seasons and The Water Music - which are fab, and lovely to listen to again.

Surprise pick for me was the Schubert, "Der Leiermann" (from Die Winterreise) - I didn't think I liked that sort of song, but his voice was so beautiful and the musical accompaniment very evocative.

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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2017, 03:25:23 AM »
You, as well!
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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2017, 02:12:31 PM »
Some of the pieces above really don’t answer the question that was asked.

Mahlerian’s list was a good answer. Limiting it to 18th- and rhythmic early-19th century works, I’ll complement it with:

Vivaldi: The Four Seasons (technically 4 pieces but they are short)
Bach: Cello Suites, pick one or all
Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No. 5 (or all of them)
Bach: Mass in B Minor
Haydn: Symphony No. 94 “Surprise”
Mozart: Symphony No. 41 “Jupiter”
Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 20
Mozart: Serenade “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik”
Mozart: Magic Flute
Beethoven: Symphony No. 5
Beethoven: Symphony No. 7
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 32

Some of which I rarely listen to — I debated over “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik” but I wanted to include some chamber music, and it is definitely one that everyone knows. The Haydn String Quartets are a fount of quality, but I don’t know if any individual one is so famous.

I started to add another list going further into the 19th century, but I know you’re already deluged with suggestions.

I second Mahlerian’s suggestion to listen to complete works, not just the most-famous bits. And youtube is okay for exploring, but you might find it worthwhile to subscribe to spotify or some other streaming service. (You can listen to spotify for free, but you have to pay to get rid of the ads.)

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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2017, 01:44:09 AM »
I started to add another list going further into the 19th century, but I know you’re already deluged with suggestions.

This is true! Still, I remain grateful for all the recommendations.

I am listening to whole works but I'm afraid I can't manage them at a single sitting. Life gets in the way. Hence, I am in the middle of The Messiah at present, from Mahlerian's list. But I'm going to work through this thread diligently, because 'if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing well...' :)

Thank you very much, Pat B.
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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2017, 02:58:35 AM »
There is life, and there is the sustained, attentive time-period required by a substantial piece of music.  It is a balance, a tension, yes; but I consider it a tension between two entirely worthy gravitational pulls.
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« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2017, 05:11:10 AM »
Beethoven: Symphony 7
Tchaikovsky: Pathetique Symphony
Schubert: Unfinished Symphony
Mozart: Clarinet Concerto
Bach: Brandenburg Concertos
Mahler: Symphony 1 'Titan'
Holst: The Planets
Vivaldi: The Four Seasons
Mendelssohn: 'A Midsummer Night's Dream'
Vaughan Williams: Tallis Fantasia
Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherazade
Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto 2 or 3

Just a random selection.
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« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2017, 05:34:50 AM »
Monteverdi - Zefiro torna
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/e6tJWY2Vaz4</a>

This was one of the first items to seriously turn me on to Monteverdi.
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« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2017, 06:07:04 AM »
Some of the pieces above really don’t answer the question that was asked.

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... I debated over “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik” but I wanted to include some chamber music, and it is definitely one that everyone knows. The Haydn String Quartets are a fount of quality, but I don’t know if any individual one is so famous.

Point very well taken, to be sure.  Without seriously contesting your point, I'll say that I snuck a Haydn quartet in, when for my second set I kept to the one century.  (Still, in strict compliance with the request, I agree that no chamber work . . . probably no 18th-c. symphony . . . of “Papa’s” really fits the request.)

To that point, though (and our Gurn has forborne to upbraid us for this lacuna, and his self-restraint is truly a marvel to contemplate):

In a list of a dozen classical pieces that everyone is ‘expected’ to know, who of us can deny that the below example ranks quite high?  Yet, we’ve all managed to omit it, somehow . . . .

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/lYbSNJDDAfk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/lYbSNJDDAfk</a>
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Re: Newbies' Blush List Dozen
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2017, 08:16:22 AM »
In a list of a dozen classical pieces that everyone is ‘expected’ to know, who of us can deny that the below example ranks quite high?  Yet, we’ve all managed to omit it, somehow . . . .

For my part, I excluded it only because I was keeping to one piece per composer.  Going to two personal favorite composers...

Mahler: Symphony No. 1 in D
Schoenberg: Verklarte Nacht

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« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2017, 08:47:19 AM »
For my part, I excluded it only because I was keeping to one piece per composer.

Likewise!  For, truly, one could list 12 LvB pieces which “a musically literate person” (as an earlier generation would see it) should be expected to know.

(I should be curious to see the old College of Wooster listening lists for music majors, from which material for the annual “drop the needle” tests would be selected.  There must indeed be 12 LvB works there . . . .)
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« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2017, 11:27:06 PM »
Thanks for the latest recommendations. There are a lot more than 12 'pieces which would embarrass me not to know', so plenty of room for a few each by the great composers.
I'm still working valiantly through the first page posts - valiantly but very enjoyably.
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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2017, 04:54:47 AM »
Thanks for the latest recommendations. There are a lot more than 12 'pieces which would embarrass me not to know', so plenty of room for a few each by the great composers.
I'm still working valiantly through the first page posts - valiantly but very enjoyably.

There’s no rush, which is part of the beauty.

The enormous blessing is, there is such a wealth of good literature to hear.  We shan’t ever exhaust it.
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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2017, 11:14:10 AM »
There’s no rush, which is part of the beauty.

The enormous blessing is, there is such a wealth of good literature to hear.  We shan’t ever exhaust it.

Excellent advice here. It’s not a race. Take your time and enjoy the journey.

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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2017, 09:59:01 AM »
Not necessarily the ones I think are the best, but certainly among the best-known.  Usually it's an excerpt or two from these that's really the "hit," but they're all better in full.

Bach: Orchestral Suite No. 3 in D
Handel: Messiah
Mozart: Symphony No. 40 in G minor
Beethoven: Piano Sonata No. 14 in C# minor "Moonlight"
Mendelssohn: Midsummer Night's Dream Overture
Schumann: Kinderszenen
Dvorak: Symphony No. 9 in E minor "From the New World"
Tchaikovsky: Swan Lake
Debussy: Suite Bergamasque
Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring
Ravel: Bolero
Prokofiev: Peter and the Wolf

I didn't bother listening to Bolero as I know it well already - used to love it but have gone off it somewhat. Of the rest, there are quite a few I already knew, but who could object to listening to Messiah again? It remains wonderful no matter how many times. Ditto Swan Lake & 'Moonlight'.

Some things which I hadn't heard before - yes, blushing now - surprised me. I really loved the Schumann, and enjoyed the Debussy.

I had never before heard The Rite of Spring. I am not sure (totally) whether I like it, but it is arresting - impressive - stunningly original - though why they rioted, I still can't imagine. Maybe the suggestiveness of the dancing, maybe something febrile in the atmosphere, maybe just a good excuse for a rammy.

Thank you very much, Mahlerian, for taking this trouble on my behalf.

I have already listened to Karl's post, #2, and very enjoyable it was. Now for North Star and Spineur (rubs hands with glee...) :)
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2017, 12:32:30 PM »
Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition (there are also numerous orchestrations, most famously the one by Ravel)
Below are two recordings of the work, by Mikhail Pletnev and Leif-Ove Andsnes.

Have just finished listening to the Pletnev.
Wow - WOW!
It's 'dazzling' indeed - so clever, and such depth.

Thanks, North Star.
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2017, 12:49:25 PM »

Bach badinerie from orchestra suite no 2 2:20 of pure happiness

Charles Gounod, Ave Maria

Both lovely - thanks!
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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2017, 01:00:30 PM »
Have just finished listening to the Pletnev.
Wow - WOW!
It's 'dazzling' indeed - so clever, and such depth.

Thanks, North Star.
Try it with the Ravel orchestration.  It becomes an altogether different piece.
A woman voice glides like the wind
Of black, of damp, of night
And all it touches in this flight
Suddenly is over.

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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2017, 01:16:11 AM »
^^^^ Thanks for the suggestion - good to know! :)
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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2017, 01:16:56 AM »

Liszt: La campanella (Grandes études de Paganini, S. 141, No. 3)

Wagner - Ride of the Valkyries (an excerpt from the Ring cycle) [I resisted the temptation to post the Looney Tunes version..]

And Sarasate's Fantasy is a handy way to hear the greatest hits from Bizet's Carmen.

I enjoyed all these - thank you, North Star.
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