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Re: Favorite film directors!
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2017, 05:44:20 AM »

     You have to be pretty damn good to be consistently overrated like Lynch, Hitchcock and Tarantino.

     
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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2017, 05:45:39 AM »
While I'm far from the adulating type when it comes to Lynch, I'd argue he's a very talented artist. What I like about him the most is the fact that there's a lot of humanity under all the shock & surreal stuff he does. Have you seen The Elephant Man or The Straight Story, by any chance? I perfectly understand that his more unhinged work isn't for everyone and might be perceived as you described, but I usually enjoy his unique combination of dream logic and pop sensibilities. Plus, he can be quite hitchcockian when he wants (and I mean that as a compliment :)).
Elephant Man is the exception - the one move he made that is generally excellent. I'll give you that. But I feel no humanity in his later works. I never feel anything for his characters, in fact quite the opposite. I usually feel they get what they deserve and wish it would happen faster! I find one thing that works against him is that his characters make stupid decisions and thus I cannot suspend disbelief when that happens. Mulholland Drive comes to mind.
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« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2017, 05:46:26 AM »
     You have to be pretty damn good to be consistently overrated like Lynch, Hitchcock and Tarantino.

     
Or really good at hyping/marketing yourself...
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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2017, 06:02:29 AM »
Elephant Man is the exception - the one move he made that is generally excellent. I'll give you that. But I feel no humanity in his later works. I never feel anything for his characters, in fact quite the opposite. I usually feel they get what they deserve and wish it would happen faster! I find one thing that works against him is that his characters make stupid decisions and thus I cannot suspend disbelief when that happens. Mulholland Drive comes to mind.


Then you need to see The Straight Story, which is one of the most wonderful movies ever!
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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2017, 06:22:46 AM »
Or really good at hyping/marketing yourself...

     I don't think the desire to rewatch the films of these directors over decades comes down to hype and marketing. Further, these directors I named are influential among other filmmakers to a considerable degree. I don't know what all goes into artistic merit, but I'd be willing to bet a widespread desire to revisit the films over an extended period and influence on generations of filmmakers are big factors.
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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2017, 06:41:15 AM »
     I don't think the desire to rewatch the films of these directors over decades comes down to hype and marketing. Further, these directors I named are influential among other filmmakers to a considerable degree. I don't know what all goes into artistic merit, but I'd be willing to bet a widespread desire to revisit the films over an extended period and influence on generations of filmmakers are big factors.
Most people don't re-watch Lynch movies. Most people don't know his movies. He's known for the tv show.  Tarentino is certainly at a different level with movies like Pulp Fiction.
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Re: Favorite film directors!
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2017, 07:29:11 AM »

Then you need to see The Straight Story, which is one of the most wonderful movies ever!

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« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2017, 07:32:59 AM »

Then you need to see The Straight Story, which is one of the most wonderful movies ever!

Yes! The ending, although understated, is extremely powerful. Farnsworth's acting is so natural it feels like a documentary at times.

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« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2017, 08:15:17 AM »
Yes! The ending, although understated, is extremely powerful. Farnsworth's acting is so natural it feels like a documentary at times.

And not just his performance, but the entire crew of character actors are excellent!
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« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2017, 08:36:05 AM »
No particular order

Ingmar Bergman
Jean-Pierre Melville
Akira Kurosawa
Charles Chaplin
Alfred Hitchcock
Francis Ford Coppola
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« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2017, 09:07:12 AM »
Most people don't re-watch Lynch movies. Most people don't know his movies. He's known for the tv show.  Tarentino is certainly at a different level with movies like Pulp Fiction.

     Tarantino is more popular than Lynch. I didn't think we were talking about that, I though we were talking about people who compile lists of their favorite film directors.

     
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« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2017, 09:32:48 AM »
Mulholland Drive comes to mind.

Lynch's best movie imo.

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Re: Favorite film directors!
« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2017, 09:33:32 AM »
But if we are going to talk about overrated, we can't fail to mention one of the worst directors in history who gets a pass from his fans at this site - David Lynch. What dreck - almost as bad as Tarantino sometimes is (another generally overrated Director). Reading all the adulation he gets on the other thread is difficult when you think he's not particularly talented and a one-trick pony (shock value anyone?).

I'm not saying I fully agree but it's nice to see a response that isn't just pious obeisance.

I find Lynch dull. Tarantino I think really is talented. Some of his movies are excellent. But the one-trick-pony charge fits what's wrong with a lot of his stuff. Certainly he's nowhere on my list of favourites.

Neither is Altman for example, but Gosford Park is one of my favourite movies.

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« Reply #53 on: September 13, 2017, 09:42:52 AM »
Yet again I forgot another director  :o : Rainer Werner Fassbinder

Another director I don't I seen anything by, but often talked about and mentioned online. How do you see Fassbinder movies? Where have you seen them and how did you get exposed to them (and found out you like them)? I mean, they show Transformers movies on TV, not some obscure art films by Fassbinder

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« Reply #54 on: September 13, 2017, 09:46:30 AM »
Another director I don't I seen anything by, but often talked about and mentioned online. How do you see Fassbinder movies? Where have you seen them and how did you get exposed to them (and found out you like them)? I mean, they show Transformers movies on TV, not some obscure art films by Fassbinder
I've seen at least 3 on the Finnish National Broadcasting Company's TV channels.
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« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2017, 10:30:58 AM »
Certainly he's nowhere on my list of favourites.

Neither is Altman for example, but Gosford Park is one of my favourite movies.

While Altman made a lot of films that were forgettable or just not very good, I rank him highly, partly because of his mastery of the "ensemble film" genre (which I think he more or less created), partly because some of his "non-ensemble" films are so good. In particular, Nashville, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, the mysterious and Bergmanesque 3 Women, and Short Cuts are among the best American films of their time. Short Cuts is particularly fascinating as an experiment in literary adaptation, especially if you know the Raymond Carver stories it's based on.

All of these films have enough layers to keep you busy with multiple viewings.

BTW, I live a few blocks from the estate where A Wedding (one of his not so good films) was shot. It's one of the old Armour family estates (of hot dog fame).
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« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2017, 10:52:24 AM »
John Sayles (Lone Star and Limbo). I have no idea what he has been doing since then.

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« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2017, 11:05:21 AM »
While Altman made a lot of films that were forgettable or just not very good, I rank him highly, partly because of his mastery of the "ensemble film" genre (which I think he more or less created), partly because some of his "non-ensemble" films are so good. In particular, Nashville, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, the mysterious and Bergmanesque 3 Women, and Short Cuts are among the best American films of their time. Short Cuts is particularly fascinating as an experiment in literary adaptation, especially if you know the Raymond Carver stories it's based on.

All of these films have enough layers to keep you busy with multiple viewings.

BTW, I live a few blocks from the estate where A Wedding (one of his not so good films) was shot. It's one of the old Armour family estates (of hot dog fame).

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« Reply #58 on: September 13, 2017, 11:54:48 AM »
While Altman made a lot of films that were forgettable or just not very good, I rank him highly, partly because of his mastery of the "ensemble film" genre (which I think he more or less created), partly because some of his "non-ensemble" films are so good. In particular, Nashville, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, the mysterious and Bergmanesque 3 Women, and Short Cuts are among the best American films of their time. Short Cuts is particularly fascinating as an experiment in literary adaptation, especially if you know the Raymond Carver stories it's based on.

All of these films have enough layers to keep you busy with multiple viewings.

BTW, I live a few blocks from the estate where A Wedding (one of his not so good films) was shot. It's one of the old Armour family estates (of hot dog fame).

     My favorite among them is The Long Goodbye.
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« Reply #59 on: September 13, 2017, 05:13:48 PM »
I'm not saying I fully agree but it's nice to see a response that isn't just pious obeisance.

I find Lynch dull. Tarantino I think really is talented. Some of his movies are excellent. But the one-trick-pony charge fits what's wrong with a lot of his stuff. Certainly he's nowhere on my list of favourites.

Neither is Altman for example, but Gosford Park is one of my favourite movies.


That one is masterful. And I love the music choices as well.
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