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Ludus Tonalis
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:07:48 AM »
I have Bernard Roberts on Nimbus, but, that Nimbus sound is its usual somewhat distant self, and, to my ears, Roberts is a little poundy/clanky. I was checking out some samples, here's some thoughts:


Mustonen: he has that technique thing of his, a forte-piano like staccato, that some may find annoying. I tend to like his style. I                had this one a looong time ago and can't remember ... wait, maybe that was Shostakovich/Alkan?

Richter: didn't hear; "they" say he's just TOO "monumental", and the sound isn't so great.

"Point Classics": didn't hear; this one gets low marks on Amazon.

Berezovsky: this sounds like a typical Teldec, wonderful. They say he plays too "Romantic", but, eh,... it sooounds good!!

Edward Atwood: this is the one "they" all like, and, to be sure, it has the monkish concentration and pruned fingers that  makes
                           this game sound thrilling. The opposite of Berezovsky; I like both, but this one is probably the "correct" one.

Osbourne: most like this as best, but Atwood may be crisper- didn't hear this one yet.

"some Russian lady on Melodiya": I think I had this a looong time ago. Perhaps the sound isn't up to snuff?



I think there's about two more recordings. There sure aren't many. What do you think?
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 07:17:10 AM »
I think there's about two more recordings. There sure aren't many. What do you think?
Well, a bit more than two: John McCabe (Hyperion/Helios), Hans Petermandls (Marco Polo), Siegfried Mauser (Wergo), Ivo Janssen (Globe), Edward Aldwell (ProPiano), Martin Perry (Bridge), Siglind Bruhn (Equilibrium)
McCabe is the one I have. Now, I should also listen to it soon. . .  ::)
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 07:19:20 AM »

Osbourne: most like this as best, but Atwood may be crisper- didn't hear this one yet.



What's this?

What do you think?

I think you should listen to Pavel Zarukin
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 07:21:10 AM »
What's this?
Probably McCabe, and snypsss thinking all those Hyperion pianists are one person.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 07:26:18 AM »
Probably McCabe, and snypsss thinking all those Hyperion pianists are one person.

tru dat ;)...lol,

yea, McCabe, not Osbourne

Well, a bit more than two: John McCabe (Hyperion/Helios), Hans Petermandls (Marco Polo), Siegfried Mauser (Wergo), Ivo Janssen (Globe), Edward Aldwell (ProPiano), Martin Perry (Bridge), Siglind Bruhn (Equilibrium)
McCabe is the one I have. Now, I should also listen to it soon. . .  ::)

that's what i meant to say


I think you should listen to Pavel Zarukin


That would be all of them I think. thanks
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 07:28:58 AM »
This is one of those pieces where I just want to luxuriate in the utter sound of it all. I wonder if any of those off-brands have as good sound as the first rank? Again, the Nimbus left me wanting more...Aldwell very impressive...
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 07:48:40 AM »

That would be all of them I think. thanks

I think there are plenty more, Anatoly Vedernikov for example. And Siglind Bruhn. And Ivo Janssen (twice I think) And Siegried Mauser.
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 10:47:00 AM »
Jn McCabe is mighty fine, IMO.

He’s not everybody’s money, but I enjoy Mustonen here, too.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 10:52:04 AM »
Dieter Goldmann's recording isn't particularly interesting, IMO. I'd be interested in hearing McCabe some day.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 03:36:37 PM »
He’s not everybody’s money, but I enjoy Mustonen here, too.

Mustonen is stellar. Criminal his recording is languishing OOP.
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 08:54:06 PM »
Probably McCabe, and snypsss thinking all those Hyperion pianists are one person.

Natural enough. Even in Canada we call Angela Hewitt "Marc-Andre" in our forgetful moments.

I have had McCabe sitting on my shelf, unheard, for almost a year. Must remedy that.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 09:35:18 PM »
For some reason, I alsways associate Ludus Tonalis with Christian Wolff's Preludes.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 03:43:44 AM »
Mustonen is stellar. Criminal his recording is languishing OOP.

Fully agreed.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 01:29:18 PM »
Probably McCabe, and snypsss thinking all those Hyperion pianists are one person.

I have have it on good authority that all those Hyperion pianists are actually pseudonyms for Joyce Hatto.   ;)

In any case, I've got the McCabe/Demidenko/Osborne/Cooms/Roscoe/Hamelin.
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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2017, 03:04:26 PM »
Dieter Goldmann's recording isn't particularly interesting, IMO. I'd be interested in hearing McCabe some day.

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Re: Ludus Tonalis
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2017, 06:31:59 AM »
Yes, I need more confirmations and/or condemnations,... there's too many to choose from: DeathMatch2017!!

You must have McCabe and Mustonen.  Must.

And possibly Mauser.

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