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This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« on: November 28, 2017, 12:22:01 PM »
Bent Sørensen ~ triple concerto: L'Isola della Citta (2016)

parts 1 & 2
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Ig9IsZ0PCU4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Ig9IsZ0PCU4</a>
parts 3 through 5
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/k6CC_FkuAO0" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/k6CC_FkuAO0</a>

enjoy.
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 03:02:42 AM »
I did enjoy it, yes. I enjoy Sørensen generally.

I found the whole Grawemeyer business kinda distracting. But then awards is a whole weird area.

Piece was nice, though.  :)

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 04:10:58 AM »
Another award I haven't one.

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 04:24:44 AM »
I was just wondering which piece would get this yesterday......

Now I know. So I'll be sure to have a listen tomorrow.

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 04:30:26 AM »
Another award: I haven't one.

Well, there's always the next world!

If it is any consolation, (and it probably isn't  ;)  ) I think Melville sold about 300 or 400 copies of Moby Dick, and the reviewers savaged it.



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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 04:43:29 AM »
If it is any consolation, (and it probably isn't  ;)  ) I think Melville sold about 300 or 400 copies of Moby Dick, and the reviewers savaged it.

In a way, I do find that a consolation.
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 04:52:21 AM »
A savage review is better than no review.

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 05:02:13 AM »
A savage review is better than no review.

No such thing as bad publicity? $:)

Any reviews of this work? I got the point after about 5 minutes or so, but stuck with it.  There were certain things which I thought contained great potential for development, but those paths were not taken.  Instead, back to microtonal slides and "soundscaping."
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 05:26:13 AM »
A savage review is better than no review.

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 05:26:44 AM »
No such thing as bad publicity? $:)

Any reviews of this work? I got the point after about 5 minutes or so, but stuck with it.  There were certain things which I thought contained great potential for development, but those paths were not taken.  Instead, back to microtonal slides and "soundscaping."

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2017, 06:39:46 AM »
I got the point... but....  There were certain things which I thought contained great potential for development, but those paths were not taken.  Instead, back to microtonal slides and "soundscaping."
But is "the point" of listening to music to "get a point"?

This isn't discursive prose, it's music, art music. There's no point to get. There are sounds to listen to and, possibly, enjoy. They occur--in a piece like this--in a certain order, so part of the pleasure comes from recognizing things, sometimes in quite different contexts from the first occurrence. That's not really "a point," though. Just a thing that happens.

But let's say, for the purpose of discussion, that a musical piece does have a point to make. In that case, I would say that perhaps its putative lack of development might be at the very least "a" point, if not "the" point. After all, Sørensen is a professional, established composer with a large body of work. That is, he's not a composition student learning techniques of development. He's already a master, fully capable of making sensible and satisfying musical decisions.

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2017, 08:14:10 AM »
If I don't win a prize, what's the point?  8)
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2017, 03:00:25 PM »
But is "the point" of listening to music to "get a point"?

This isn't discursive prose, it's music, art music. There's no point to get. There are sounds to listen to and, possibly, enjoy. They occur--in a piece like this--in a certain order, so part of the pleasure comes from recognizing things, sometimes in quite different contexts from the first occurrence. That's not really "a point," though. Just a thing that happens.


Yes, that was "the point" I was talking about!   8)

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2017, 04:42:13 PM »
Indeed! (Sez the Nowhere Composer.)
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2017, 02:18:47 AM »
Knew I could count on you, dear fellow!
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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2017, 05:20:08 PM »
I listened to it with my girlfriend and we both thought it was a great piece with a rather serious tone. Highly enjoyable, of course, but out of everything I have heard composed in 2016 it wasn't really my favourite. If only I could choose which piece gets what award............. 8)

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Re: This year's Grawemeyer award winning piece
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 04:06:10 AM »
I listened to it with my girlfriend and we both thought it was a great piece with a rather serious tone. Highly enjoyable, of course [...]

Really, that is as much as can be wished for a piece which is recognized with an award.
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