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Grammy Awards 2017-18 - rebooted
« on: January 29, 2018, 06:28:09 AM »
Hearty congratulations to the Houston Symphony on their first-ever Grammy, and for Wozzeck!
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 07:22:57 AM »
Hearty congratulations to the Houston Symphony on their first-ever Grammy, and for Wozzeck!

Imagine a Grammy show where 10 minutes of Wozzeck are performed, instead of ....well you know!* ;)



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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 07:28:25 AM »
Two Grammies!! Must be a great recording


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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 07:36:07 AM »
Two Grammies!! Must be a great recording



Surprisingly good, indeed. Honeck really is an excellent conductor and I never really paid him much attention prior to this recording. His new recording of Martinu’s The Epic of Gilgamesh is a must-buy.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 08:05:33 AM »
Surprisingly good, indeed. Honeck really is an excellent conductor and I never really paid him much attention prior to this recording. His new recording of Martinu’s The Epic of Gilgamesh is a must-buy.

I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu. Do you think only Adagio make this worth buying?

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 08:09:15 AM »
I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu.

I am not angry, only hurt  8)
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 08:12:18 AM »
Heridetary. Sorry, I've tried everything. Hopeless

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 08:29:10 AM »
You've given it a try, I can ask no better.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 08:39:44 AM »
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.

Congratulations to Barbara Hannigan, though; I haven't heard her latest disc, but she has been doing fantastic work over the last few years.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 08:58:59 AM »

Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.


"It bafflers Science!"  0:)

Perhaps the committee heard....female empowerment?  ??? :o
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 09:19:16 AM »
Perhaps the committee heard....female empowerment?  ??? :o

Perhaps the committee heard music that people enjoy?

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 09:29:51 AM »
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.
I like the chamber music a lot more than the orchestral. The orchestral often has a Hollywood soft gauze glow, while the conversational push-and-pull of chamber music is something she seems to respond well to. Check out the Lark Quartet's CD on Bridge Records.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2018, 09:59:51 AM »
I like the chamber music a lot more than the orchestral. The orchestral often has a Hollywood soft gauze glow, while the conversational push-and-pull of chamber music is something she seems to respond well to. Check out the Lark Quartet's CD on Bridge Records.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI</a>

I still don't hear anything besides a collection of gestures.  Where's the motivation, the throughline?  What's animating the music and driving it forwards?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2018, 10:18:54 AM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/8evj3Vz4IgI</a>

I still don't hear anything besides a collection of gestures.  Where's the motivation, the throughline?  What's animating the music and driving it forwards?

Perhaps it’s just not for you? No need in trying to understand something that doesn’t please you. FWIW, I don’t like Higdon’s music at all. I pretty much feel the same way you do.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2018, 10:21:56 AM »
I don't listen to Shostakovich or Martinu. Do you think only Adagio make this worth buying?

It’s okay, there’s a lot of folks who don’t like either composer. If you don’t like Shostakovich’s 5th, then there’s really no need to buy the recording since Barber’s Adagio for Strings isn’t a long work. Your money is better spent on composers whose music you actually enjoy.

Edit: Honeck’s performance of Barber’s Adagio is nice enough, but I’m still not wholly convinced and haven’t been convinced with any other performance other than Thomas Schippers’ classic account. The Schippers remains my reference.
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2018, 10:38:09 AM »

Edit: Honeck’s performance of Barber’s Adagio is nice enough, but I’m still not wholly convinced and haven’t been convinced with any other performance other than Thomas Schippers’ classic account. The Schippers remains my reference.

Thomas Schippers!  Wow!  I remember hearing some of his concerts when he led the Cincinnati Symphony!

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2018, 10:38:20 AM »
Perhaps it’s just not for you? No need in trying to understand something that doesn’t please you.

On the contrary, it's all the more reason for me to wish to understand why others find it appealing.  If I discarded everything that I found unpalatable at first hearing, I would never have come to appreciate many things that I love.
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2018, 10:54:05 AM »
Thomas Schippers!  Wow!  I remember hearing some of his concerts when he led the Cincinnati Symphony!

He was another victim of lung cancer: only 47 when he died!

A tragic loss for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2018, 10:55:18 AM »
On the contrary, it's all the more reason for me to wish to understand why others find it appealing.  If I discarded everything that I found unpalatable at first hearing, I would never have come to appreciate many things that I love.

But how often has someone given you ample reason to check out a composer and listen with a different set of ears only for you to find yourself in the same predicament time and time again?

For me, it’s more of a personal thing and no one can really help me understand a composer whose music I just don’t connect to. No amount of convincing simply won’t work if you’re not attuned to the musical language.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2018, 11:30:04 AM »
Can anyone explain to me what others hear in Jennifer Higdon's music?  It sounds completely empty to me, using the rhetoric of music without the content.

Yesterday I was at the Nashville Symphony for an afternoon concert with the orchestra's strings and Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg. Right after intermission, before they begun the second half of the program Salerno-Sonnenberg announced to the audience that N.S. had just won 2 Grammy's. Pretty cool moment.