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The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« on: April 23, 2018, 02:48:25 AM »
Dear all. I just caught myself writing that a certain recording would be getting the most votes if one ever surveyed classical music lovers (or critics) about what "the greatest recording" might be. The epitome of a classical music recording.  Let's not get into the absurdity of such a claim... that's not my point.

In order not to betray my own bias and opinion, I'm just listing candidates (with apologies to every self-respecting GMG member) from Norman Lebrecht's list of 100 Great Recordings.

The idea is to get informal votes in for records that should be included in a poll of, say, 25 recordings... so that I can poll the GMG Forum at least, if not the classical world at large.

It would help if you'd indicated which choices below you second, which you might exclude (if you feel strongly about it), and which you might add.

Kreisler/Blech, LvB Violin Concerto, EMI

Mendelssohn/Schumann Piano Trios, Cortot/Thibaud/Casals, EMI

Rachmaninoff/Stokowski, 2nd PC, RCA

Schabel, Beethoven Sonatas, EMI _ II

Mahler 9, Walter, VPh, EMI _ I

Bach, Casals Cello Suites, EMI _ I

Tchaik, PC1, Horowitz/Toscanini, RCA

Toscanini, LvB Symphonies, RCA

Toscanini, LvB7 NYP, RCA _ I

Toscanini, Falstaff, RCA _ I

Chopin Waltzes, Lipatti, EMI _ I

Wagner, T&I, Furtwangler, EMI _ II

Puccini, Tosca, Callas, de Sabata, EMI _ II

Brahms, PC 1, Rubinstein, Reiner, RCA

Bach Goldberg Variations, Gould, Columbia _ III

Mozart, Figaro, E.Kleiber, Decca _ III

Bartok Cto. for Orchestra, Reiner, RCA _ I

Tchaik, Sys. 4-6, Mravinsky, DG__ IIIII

Ravel, Daphnis & Chloe, Monteux, Decca _ I

DSCH, VC & CC, Oistrahk, Rostropovich, CBS _ I

Schubert, Death & Maiden, Amadeus Quartet, DG _ I

Bartok PCs, Anda, Fricsay, DG _ II

Bach, Matthew Passion, Klemperer, EMI _ I

Prokofiev Piano Sonata 8 et al, S.Richter, DG

Elgar, Cello Concerto, J.d.Pre, LSO, Barbirolli, EMI _ III

Wagner, Ring, Solti, Decca_ IIIII

Mahler, LvdE, Ludwig, Wunderlich, Klemperer, EMI _ III

Mahler, Sy.4th, Szell, CBS

Strauss, Four Last Songs, Schwarzkopf (OTTO or Szell?), EMI _ III

Vivaldi Four Seasons, Marrinner, Decca _ I

Bach, Orchestral Suites, Harnoncourt, Teldec

Dvorak, Sys, 8 & 9, Kubelik, DG _ I

Schubert, Schoene Muellerin, Fischer-Dieskau, Moore, EMI

Schubert, Winterreise, Fischer-Dieskau, Demus, DG _ II

Bach, S&P, Milstein, DG _ I

Beethoven, Symphonies 5 & 7, Carlos Kleiber, DG _ II

Janacek, Katia Kabanova, Mackerras, Decca _ I

Janacek, Makropoulos, Mackerras, Decca _ I

Britten, Peter Grimes, Britten-Pears et al., Decca _ I

Britten, Peter Grimes, Davis, Vickers, Philips _ I

Berlioz, Les Troyens, Davis, Philips _ I

Berlioz, Les Troyens, Davis, LSO Live

Holst, Planets, Boult, EMI _ I

Berg, Lulu, Boulez, DG _ I

Mahler, 10th, Rattle, CBSO, EMI _ II

Mozart, Horn Concertos, Brian, EMI _ III

Mozart, Clarinet Concerto, Pay/Hogwood, Decca

Bach, Mass in B Minor, Gardiner, Archiv _ III

Verdi, Otello, Domingo et al., Maazel, EMI _ I

Paert, Tabula Rasa, ECM _ IIII

Bruckner 7, Vienna, Karajan, DG _ III

The Three Tenors in Concert, Decca

Gorecki, Third Symphony, Upshaw/Zinam, Nonesuch _ I

Verdi, Traviata, Gheorghiu, Solti, Decca

Beethoven Symphonies, Karajan, 1963, DG _ I

Beethoven, String Quartets, Busch Quartet, HMV/EMI/Warner

Schubert String Quintet, Prades (Casals/Tortelier)

Beethoven Symphonies, Zinman, Tonhalle, Arte Nova _ -1

Mahler 1, Kubelik, BRSO, DG _ II

Strav.: Rite of the Spring, Lenny, Sony (1958)

Strav.: Rite of the Spring, Gergiev, Philips

Strav.: Rite of the Spring, Stravinsky, either of his own _ III

Berlioz, Symphonie Fantastique, Colin Davis, LSO _ I

DSCH, Sy.15, Sanderling, Erato _ I

DSCH, Sy.15, Kondrashin, Dresden, Profil

Bach, Concertos italiaens, Tharaud, Harmonia Mundi _ II

Scarlatti, Sonatas, Pletnev, Virgin _ I

Philip Glass, Einstein on the Beach, CBS

Adams, Shaker Loops, Alsop, Naxos

Messiaen, Turangalila, Wit, Naxos

Brahms Piano Concertos, Gilels/Jochum, DG _ II

Brahms Piano Concertos, Fleisher/Szell, Sony _ I

Beethoven Piano Sonatas, Backhaus II, Decca _ I

Stravinsky, Firebird, Boulez, DG _ II

Schoenberg: Pierre Boulez, Gurrelieder, Columbia _ I

Bruckner: Eugen Jochum, Symphony #7 / Complete Bruckner Symphonies, DG _ I

Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony, Toscanini, RCA _ I

Sibelius, Akeo Watanabe, Complete Symphonies, Epic _ I

Tchaik/Rachmaninoff, PC 1 & 2, Argerich, Philips _ I

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto 2, Richter, DG _ II

Mahler, Das Knaben Wunderhorn, Szell, EMI _ I

Brahms Symphony 4, Kleiber, DG _ I

Yonder Came A Courteous Knight, Ravenscroft, by the Pro Cantione Antiqua _ I

Swing, Swing, Swing the 1938 broadcast _ I

Bach, GVs, Leonhardt, 1978, DHM _ I

Sibelius, Sy.No7, HvK, DG _ I

Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto, Byron Janis #3 RCA _ I

Tchaikovsky PC 1, Rachmaninoff PC 2; Cliburn, Kondrashin/Reiner

Hummel/Piano Concertos 2&3 Hough _ I

Mozart Mass in C minor/Leppard _ I

Offenbach: Entre Nous _ I

Holst Military Suites for Band/Fennel _ I

Victoria The Victoria Collection, Christophers (Coro)  _ I

North German organ music, Leonhardt (Sony/Vivarte) _ I

Buxtehude complete organ works, Harald Vogel (MDG) _ I

Bach Das wohltemperierte Clavier, Gilbert (DG/Archiv) _ I

Bach Brandenburg Concertos, Goebel (DG/Archiv) _ I

Bach Matthäus Passion, Leonhardt (Harmonia Mundi) _ I

Bach organ works, Kooiman (Coronata) _ I

Bach Die Kunst der Fuge [organ] Rogg (EMI) _ I

Händel Water Music & Music For The Royal Fireworks, Gardiner (Philips) _ I

Mozart symphonies, Hogwood (Decca/l'Oiseau Lyre) _ I

Mozart Figaro, Solti (Decca) _ I

Mozart Così, Klemperer (EMI) _ I

Mozart Zauberflöte, Klemperer (EMI) _ I

Schubert Complete Symphonies Immerseel (Columbia/Zig Zag) _ I

Chopin Vladimir Tropp plays Chopin [a.o. Sonata no. 2] (Denon) _ I

Verdi, Rigoletto (Giulini) _ I

Mahler 2, Stokowski (RCA) _ I

Mahler 6, Barbirolli (EMI) _ I

Rachmaninov Vespers, Sweschnikow (EuroDisc) _ II

L. Andriessen, De Staat (De Leeuw) _ I

Beethoven Symphony No 3 'Eroica' E Kleiber/VPO _ I

Schoenberg: Kubelik, Gurrelieder, DG _ I

The Scarlatti Sonatas, Scott Ross, Erato - 1

Bach Matthäus Passion, Mogens Wöldike (Vanguard/The Bach Guild)

Bach Goldberg Variations, Xhu Xiao-Mei (Mirare)

Beethoven Eroica symphony, Furtwängler, WP 1943 (EMI)

Beethoven Eroica Symphony, Monteux, Concertgebouw Orchestra (Philips/Decca)

Beethoven Pastoral symphony: Walter, Columbia Symphony (Sony)

Beethoven Missa Solemnis: Bernstein,  Concertgebouw (DGG)

Brahms symphony no 2: Abbado, BP (1969) (DGG)

Brahms symphony no 3: Walter, Columbia Symphony (Sony)

Bruckner: symphony no 5: Klemperer, New Philharmonia (EMI)

Bruckner: symphony no 6: Keilberth, BP (Teldec)

Bruckner: symphony no 8: Böhm, WP (DGG)








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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2018, 03:06:17 AM »
Can I add a few?  Toscanini and Beethoven, yes!

Off the top of my head:

Wilhelm Backhaus, Beethoven: Complete Piano Sonatas (London Stereo version)

Pierre Boulez, Stravinsky: The Firebird, DGG

Pierre Boulez, Schoenberg: Gurrelieder, Columbia

Eugen Jochum, Bruckner: Symphony #7 DGG  (also: Complete Bruckner Symphonies)

Georg Solti, Wagner: Der Ring der Nibelungen, London

Arturo Toscanini, Beethoven: Symphony #7, RCA

Arturo Toscanini, Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony, RCA

Akeo Watanabe, Sibelius: Complete Symphonies, Epic



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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2018, 03:36:56 AM »
Can I add a few?  Toscanini and Beethoven, yes!

Off the top of my head:

Wilhelm Backhaus, Beethoven: Complete Piano Sonatas (London Stereo version)

Pierre Boulez, Stravinsky: The Firebird, DGG

Pierre Boulez, Schoenberg: Gurrelieder, Columbia

Eugen Jochum, Bruckner: Symphony #7 DGG  (also: Complete Bruckner Symphonies)

Georg Solti, Wagner: Der Ring der Nibelungen, London Absolutely. (Included above, too.)

Arturo Toscanini, Beethoven: Symphony #7, RCA Toscanini LvB7 - the famed NYPhil recording, presumably.

Arturo Toscanini, Tchaikovsky: Manfred Symphony, RCA

Akeo Watanabe, Sibelius: Complete Symphonies, Epic First stereo Sibelius Cycle, I understand. But can this compete? Was this available in the West? Known at all? Is this a case of "Should" rather than "is", when it comes to great / milestone recordings? Sadly out of print even in Japan.

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2018, 04:27:33 AM »
These I second

Wagner, T&I, Furtwangler, EMI

Puccini, Tosca, Callas, de Sabata, EMI

Bach Goldberg Variations, Gould, Columbia

Tchaik, Sys. 4-6, Mravinsky, DG

DSCH, VC & CC, Oistrahk, Rostropovich, CBS

Bartok PCs, Anda, Fricsay, DG

Bach, Matthew Passion, Klemperer, EMI

Elgar, Cello Concerto, J.d.Pre, LSO, Barbirolli, EMI

Wagner, Ring, Solti, Decca

Mahler, LvdE, Ludwig, Wunderlich, Klemperer, EMI

Strauss, Four Last Songs, Schwarzkopf (Szell), EMI

Britten, Peter Grimes, Davis, Vickers, Philips

Berlioz, Les Troyens, Davis, Philips

Mozart, Horn Concertos, Brian, EMI

Bach, Mass in B Minor, Gardiner, Archiv

Verdi, Otello, Domingo et al., Maazel, EMI

Paert, Tabula Rasa, ECM

Bruckner 7, Vienna, Karajan, DG

Strav.: Rite of the Spring, Stravinsky, either of his own

DSCH, Sy.15, Sanderling, Erato

Brahms Piano Concertos, Fleisher/Szell, Sony

and I'd add:

Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto 2, Richter, DG

Mahler, Das Knaben Wunderhorn, Szell, EMI

Brahms Symphony 4, Kleiber, DG
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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2018, 04:36:40 AM »
Jens, do I get this right: You are listing Lebrecht’s choices and it’s the starting point of an eventual Top 25 List ?

The starting point is deeply flawed IMHO. I can find only 3 that may be included, out of 100 :o. So many of them have lived off their reputation... Most are way past their ‘best before’ date...

The 3 that I would keep are not necessarily the best phonographic production for the work at hand (artists, quality of execution, sound engineering), but they fostered huge interest from critics and the buying public, causing rediscovery and/or wholesale reappraisal of acknowledged classics:

- Bach, Goldberg Variations, Gould. A seminal record, it’s been loved, imitated or loathed by 3 generations of Bach lovers. My own personal favourite is by an elderly female chinese pianist who tours the world playing only the Goldbergs. But it all started with Gould, didn’t it ?

- Brahms: piano concerto no 1, Gilels and Jochum. Forget about the 2nd, it’s very fine but has been done better before and since. The First remains unrivalled IMO, an epochal meeting of two titans. I suspect the producers must have been taken aback at the sheer voltage generated.

- Wagner: the Ring, Solti. Few operatic productions are as iconic as this. Not necessarily the best sung/vocally acted, but a giant step from what went before and the yardstick by which all others are measured. It can be safely said that stereophony’s full potential was realized for the first time in a major operatic production.

BTW, you have the wrong Otto conducting the Four Last Songs by Schwarzkopf. It’s Ackermann, not Edelmann (the baritone)  :).
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2018, 04:39:41 AM »
Thanks much!


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Akeo Watanabe, Sibelius: Complete Symphonies, Epic First stereo Sibelius Cycle, I understand. But can this compete? Was this available in the West? Known at all? Is this a case of "Should" rather than "is", when it comes to great / milestone recordings? Sadly out of print even in Japan[/i].

The Watanabe was absolutely available in the West: that is why I was able to hear it in Dayton in the 1960's! ;)

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 04:43:54 AM »
Yonder Came A Courteous Knight, Ravenscroft, by the Pro Cantione Antiqua

Can I vote for Swing, Swing, Swing the 1938 broadcast?

Beethoven 7, Philharmonia, Cantelli

Mahler 6, Karajan

(Okay the Mahler is a joke, I have never even heard it)

Goldberg Variations, Leonhardt, the 1980 recording

Sibelius 7, BPO, Karajan on DG
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2018, 04:44:37 AM »
Jens, do I get this right: You are listing Lebrecht’s choices and it’s the starting point of an eventual Top 25 List ?

The starting point is deeply flawed IMHO. I can find only 3 that may be included, out of 100 :o. So many of them have lived off their reputation... Most are way past their ‘best before’ date...

The 3 that I would keep are not necessarily the best phonographic production for the work at hand (artists, quality of execution, sound engineering), but they fostered huge interest from critics and the buying public, causing rediscovery and/or wholesale reappraisal of acknowledged classics:

- Bach, Goldberg Variations, Gould. A seminal record, it’s been loved, imitated or loathed by 3 generations of Bach lovers. My own personal favourite is by an elderly female chinese pianist who tours the world playing only the Goldbergs. But it all started with Gould, didn’t it ?

- Brahms: piano concerto no 1, Gilels and Jochum. Forget about the 2nd, it’s very fine but has been done better before and since. The First remains unrivalled IMO, an epochal meeting of two titans. I suspect the producers must have been taken aback at the sheer voltage generated.

- Wagner: the Ring, Solti. Few operatic productions are as iconic as this. Not necessarily the best sung/vocally acted, but a giant step from what went before and the yardstick by which all others are measured. It can be safely said that stereophony’s full potential was realized for the first time in a major operatic production.

BTW, you have the wrong Otto conducting the Four Last Songs by Schwarzkopf. It’s Ackermann, not Edelmann (the baritone)  :).


André, I'm listing Lebrecht’s choices, omitting some and smuggling a few others in there. I didn't want to just use my own OTTOMH-list, especially since I have a candidate in mind and don't want to accidentally skew it towards that one.

Feel free to add as you deem important ones missing or dismiss as you deem a recording to be famous only, but not great. Incidentally, the criterion you put forth for making your selection is just about verbatim what I would have said, had I had the proper wit to put it into words.

Otto-Schmotto. (Thanks for pointing it out. :-) )

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2018, 04:54:23 AM »
I'd only agree with three:
Tchaikovsky/Mravinsky
Beethoven 5&7/Kleiber
Elgar/DuPre

Others I'd think about adding
Hummel/Piano Concertos 2&3 Hough
Mozart Mass in C minor/Leppard
Offenbach: Entre Nous
Holst Military Suites for Band/Fennel

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2018, 05:09:18 AM »
Crazy contest...  >:D

Can we pick our own choices, or is the Lebrecht list mandatory?
Anyway, I picked a few of the many greatest I happen to know (and adore).

Many of these are projects/collections, dunno if they count.

Victoria The Victoria Collection, Christophers (Coro)
North German organ music, Leonhardt (Sony/Vivarte)
Buxtehude complete organ works, Harald Vogel (MDG)
Bach Das wohltemperierte Clavier, Gilbert (DG/Archiv)
Bach Brandenburg Concertos, Goebel (DG/Archiv)
Bach Matthäus Passion, Leonhardt (Harmonia Mundi)
Bach organ works, Kooiman (Coronata)
Bach Die Kunst der Fuge [organ] Rogg (EMI)
Händel Water Music & Music For The Royal Fireworks, Gardiner (Philips)
Mozart symphonies, Hogwood (Decca/l'Oiseau Lyre)
Mozart Figaro, Solti (Decca)
Mozart Così, Klemperer (EMI)
Mozart Zauberflöte, Klemperer (EMI)
Schubert Complete Symphonies Immerseel (Columbia/Zig Zag)
Chopin Vladimir Tropp plays Chopin [a.o. Sonata no. 2] (Denon)
Verdi, Rigoletto (Giulini)
Mahler 2, Stokowski (RCA)
Mahler 6, Barbirolli (EMI)
Rachmaninov Vespers, Sweschnikow (EuroDisc)
L. Andriessen, De Staat (De Leeuw)
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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2018, 05:11:40 AM »


The Watanabe was absolutely available in the West: that is why I was able to hear it in Dayton in the 1960's! ;)

Almost forgot! 8)

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2018, 05:44:23 AM »
Crazy contest...  >:D

Can we pick our own choices, or is the Lebrecht list mandatory?


Good heavens, no. I just picked the Lebrecht, because it was a convenient list I had nearby, not mine, and included the obvious choices.


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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2018, 06:07:08 AM »
Seconded: Pärt, Lipatti Chopin, du Pre Elgar, Solti Ring, Klemperer Das Lied, Boulez Lulu, Rattle Mahler 10, Stravinsky conducts Rite of Spring, Tharaud Bach, Boulez Firebird, Rachmaninov Vespers, Sweschnikow (EuroDisc)


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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2018, 06:11:45 AM »
I have taken the original list and removed those recordings I have never heard (in some cases heard of) . I have also removed some recordings I know and love but don't think they qualify (Szell in Mahler, Klemperer in Bach etc). I have changed a couple, Kubelik for Boulez in Gurrelieder and Makropoulos for Katya out of Mackerras/Janacek recordings.


Schnabel, Beethoven Sonatas, EMI _ I
Mahler 9, Walter, VPh, EMI
Mozart, Figaro, E.Kleiber, Decca _ II
Tchaik, Sys. 4-6, Mravinsky, DG__ IIII
Ravel, Daphnis & Chloe, Monteux, Decca
Schubert, Death & Maiden, Berg Qt EMI
Tchaik, Sys. 4-6, Mravinsky, DG__ IIII
Bartok PCs, Anda, Fricsay, DG _ I
Elgar, Cello Concerto, J.d.Pre, LSO, Barbirolli, EMI _ I
Wagner, Ring, Solti, Decca_ III
Mahler, LvdE, Ludwig, Wunderlich, Klemperer, EMI _ I
Strauss, Four Last Songs, Schwarzkopf ,Szell EMI _ II
Dvorak, Sys, 8 & 9, Kubelik, DG
Schubert, Winterreise, Fischer-Dieskau, Demus, DG _ I
Janacek, Makropoulos, Mackerras, Decca
Berlioz, Les Troyens, Davis, Philips _ I
Holst, Planets, Boult, EMI
Mozart, Horn Concertos, Brian, EMI _ II
Bach, Mass in B Minor, Gardiner, Archiv _ II
Bruckner 7, Vienna, Karajan, DG _ II
Mahler 1, Kubelik, BRSO, DG _ I
Berlioz, Symphonie Fantastique, Colin Davis, LSO
Schoenberg: Kubelik, Gurrelieder, DGI
Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto 2, Richter, DG _ I
Beethoven Symphony No 3 'Eroica' E Kleiber/VPO

I don't think there is a single completely satisfactory Beethoven Symphony cycle (certainly not Zinman) so removed them all and added E. Kleiber in the 'Eroica'.
Likewise I have numerous reservations about Solti's Ring (mainly Solti) but concede it is a major landmark in recording history and has many fine points (many of them down to Solti). I thought of replacing Du Pre/Barbirolli in the Dvorak Cello Concerto with Navarra/Barbirolli but that is a personal choice and DP/B was a favourite ever since LP days and was the first album I replaced with a CD. Would go for Gilels/Jochum over Fleisher/Szell though both are very fine.



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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2018, 08:50:47 AM »
Early Music Consort of London/David Munrow, Art of the Netherlands
Gustav Leonhardt, Art of Fugue (DHM)
Jordi Savall, Lluis de Mila
Ensemble Organum, Chants de l'eglise milanaise
Wolfgang Rubsam, Well Tempered Clavier
Thomas Binkley, Machaut
Sergio Vartolo, Frescobaldi Capricci
Sergio Vartolo Froberger
Walcha, Bach organ (second recording)
Marie Claire Alain Bach Organ (Second Recording)
Paul Beier Reusner
Dmitri Badiarov Bach suites
Capella Pratensis, Ockeghem Missa Mi Mi
Giuseppi Maletto Dufay Missa Ave Regina cœlorum

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2018, 09:18:09 AM »
There are lots of new suggestions for the poll of "The Greatest Recording Ever Made", which I'm grateful for. It's also kind of beginning to look as though it's becoming a list of just "Great Recordings Made".

To pick (at random, I swear) out an example: Is Paul Beier's recording of Reusner's Delitiae Testudinis really a serious candidate for "The Greatest Recording Ever Made"? I mean, if you think so, absolutely. We need not all converge on the Solti Ring. That's the reason I'm asking. But there should be some sense of that hard-to-define "total greatness" and perhaps also a small dash of "historical significance"?!

Long way of saying: If you recommend a recording that's not already listed, could you also then include a recording that you think should NOT be on the list?

BTW. I've added all new suggestions to the initial list by now (except the very latest) and added a few myself. Like the famous Tchaik/Rachmaninoff with Cliburn which I forgot but which is certainly of importance.

Cheers & thanks - jfl

As I'm adding Ross' Scarlatti:  It will be hard to measure recordings fairly against 'projects'. A reason I am not including the Johnson Schubert Project. Perhaps cycles should not be included at all?


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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2018, 09:42:39 AM »


Long way of saying: If you recommend a recording not already listed, could you also then include a recording that you think should NOT be on the list?



I don't think that Ross's complete Scarlatti should be on the list, because it's not very good. His first Scarlatti recording (Stil) is a better candidate, but even then . . .

And it's astonishing that no=one has proposed the most iconic recording of all time -- Glen Gould's first Goldbergs.
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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2018, 09:54:12 AM »
I don't think that Ross's complete Scarlatti should be on the list, because it's not very good. His first Scarlatti recording (Stil) is a better candidate, but even then . . .

And it's astonishing that no=one has proposed the most iconic recording of all time -- Glen Gould's first Goldbergs.

It was always on the list and has been seconded by Sarge and Andre (and myself). But yes, fewer votes than might be expected.

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2018, 09:56:49 AM »
Early Music Consort of London/David Munrow, Art of the Netherlands
Gustav Leonhardt, Art of Fugue (DHM)
Jordi Savall, Lluis de Mila
Ensemble Organum, Chants de l'eglise milanaise
Wolfgang Rubsam, Well Tempered Clavier
Thomas Binkley, Machaut
Sergio Vartolo, Frescobaldi Capricci
Sergio Vartolo Froberger
Walcha, Bach organ (second recording)
Marie Claire Alain Bach Organ (Second Recording)
Paul Beier Reusner
Dmitri Badiarov Bach suites
Capella Pratensis, Ockeghem Missa Mi Mi
Giuseppi Maletto Dufay Missa Ave Regina cœlorum

I like an 'old music' list like that.
Munrow, Ensemble Organum, Savall and Cappella Pratensis most certainly derserve a mention!
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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: Nominations for the Poll
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2018, 11:30:50 AM »
Thanks for the precisions, Jens. Some of my choices have been mentioned by others, to which I’ll add my own Recordings of the Century for the 4 B. I think they are incontournables, in the sense that they make me pause and gasp every time I hear them, no matter how often. Most are well known, some not all that well known.

Bach:

- Matthäus Passion, Mogens Wöldike (Vanguard/The Bach Guild)
- Goldberg Variations, Xhu Xiao-Mei (Mirare)

Beethoven:

- Eroica symphony, Furtwängler, WP 1943 (EMI)
- Eroica Symphony, Monteux, Concertgebouw Orchestra (Philips/Decca)
- Pastoral symphony: Walter, Columbia Symphony (Sony)
- Missa Solemnis: Bernstein,  Concertgebouw (DGG)

Brahms:

- symphony no 2: Abbado, BP (1969) (DGG)
- symphony no 3: Walter, Columbia Symphony (Sony)

Bruckner:

- symphony no 5: Klemperer, New Philharmonia (EMI)
- symphony no 6: Keilberth, BP (Teldec)
- symphony no 8: Böhm, WP (DGG)